I'm starting to consider killing myself based on the outcome of an event (non trivial) that should occur by the end of the week. I've never so calmly and rationally thought about it like this before. That is what is worrying me now, I'm scared I will try to go through with it. I'm thinking it is the only way I can show people how I am feeling. I don't want to talk about what's going on with me. Let's just say things are getting to me and I am finding it difficult to cope.

Anti depressants? My reaction is always no way I don't want them. I don't want my thoughts and feelings to be controlled with drugs. Maybe I can be persuaded that they are a good idea? The other problem is I'm sure they are a temporary fix, and when I come off them I will be back where I started. Counseling I have tried and it's been fairly useless, I don't want to pursue that at the moment.

I want to know if there is anything else I haven't considered? Because at the moment I am feeling like I am running out of options and the best thing to do is to die :(

I would recommend that the best thing to would be to find an out let in which you can release the emotions and feelings that make you feel this way, something that you can fully get into that will help releave the stress.

Dma, you need to get into contact with a hospital or counseling center, they can evaluate you and get you started on some medicine, which just might help you.
SuicideHotlines.com - When You Feel You Can't Go On -- Let Someone Know Your Pain.

Wait it out , things will change I promis you. I've been there , I know. If you were to end it now you will never know what wonderful things are waiting for you in your future.

Medication will give you temporary relief while you gradually work on solving your problems. The time to use anti-depressants is when you are overwhelmed by emotional pain. It does not necessarily lead to a life-time of dependency. Had you been suffering a physical illness that needed urgent attention such as a broken ankle, you wouldn't hesitate to get the help that was needed.

The fear of the stigma of mental illness prevents people seeking and receiving help in the early stages of depression. I'm sorry you're hesitating to get the help you really want and need as I'm sure there are people in your life (present and future) who won't want to live without you.

Believe it or not people care about you, even us complete strangers. Please get some help, it's free and you will get through it. The short way out is never the right answer. I am sure you are better than that.

Pills work to bring your chemical levels back into balance, and once you're there, you can be weened off them and remain in that balance, so you're not back at square one (that's what I've heard from doctors, but I decided against them too. However, I wasn't suicidal.) If you think about it, you're at your lowest now. If you end it now, it can never get better. Do you really want to disable your capacity to hope so readily? I know it's tough right now, but you CAN get through it. All you have to do is not kill yourself. That simple. Hope I helped, and I hope you get some help. I think you could benefit.

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I'm starting to consider killing myself based on the outcome of an event (non trivial) that should occur by the end of the week. I've never so calmly and rationally thought about it like this before. That is what is worrying me now, I'm scared I will try to go through with it. I'm thinking it is the only way I can show people how I am feeling. I don't want to talk about what's going on with me. Let's just say things are getting to me and I am finding it difficult to cope.

Anti depressants? My reaction is always no way I don't want them. I don't want my thoughts and feelings to be controlled with drugs. Maybe I can be persuaded that they are a good idea? The other problem is I'm sure they are a temporary fix, and when I come off them I will be back where I started. Counseling I have tried and it's been fairly useless, I don't want to pursue that at the moment.

I want to know if there is anything else I haven't considered? Because at the moment I am feeling like I am running out of options and the best thing to do is to die :(

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First no one result is worth killing yourself, lose a job, lose a spouse or partner, they are all replacable, lose a place to live, there is always another one. Nothing is that bad, ever. So you need to talk to someone, don't know your age, but you need to talk this over with someone. And no medication does not control you, in fact it is the opposite, when seriously depressed, the chemicals in your body is controlling you from actually thinking clear ( no person thinking clearly would even consider killing thierself( the drugs help clear your mind and help you actually think properly, using your own mind.

Ok, you don't want help, most people who are sick and depressed don't want the help and often family members have to force them to get the help or at some point the system does. So you don't want help, too bad you need it. So go talk to someone.

And again, you can be homeless with no money on the street, guess what, so what? Things are bad things could get worst still but things will normally get better latter.

I've read some of your posts, you have allot to offer other people. I don't know what's going on in your life, but I do know depression, I do know how you feel.

You've taken the first step, you're reaching out, asking for help, and that's why we're here. You need to talk to your doctor, pills do help, and they will get you through this rough time, let you have time to deal with your problems.

Suicide is the end, that's it, it's not a solution, it's not the way to go. People love you, people care about you, this wouldn't only destroy you, but everyone around you, it's not the answer. Please, get professional help, you aren't alone in this, but only you can get the help you need.

I wish you all the best, you are strong enough to survive, you will get through, I believe in you, now you have to believe in yourself.

Within a 24 hour period I had a fire in my apartment losing everything I owned; my boyfriend left me; I almost lost my life in the fire and have permanent smoke inhalation damage to my lungs; I went to my job only to be laid off. I had literally nothing but I didn't do myself in.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Just stop and think for a minute what my 24 hour nightmare must have been like to go through. Somehow I made it through that horrible day. You can make it through the week, trust me. Whatever the problem pressing upon you right now, it too shall pass.

It too shall pass.
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I'm starting to consider killing myself based on the outcome of an event (non trivial) that should occur by the end of the week. I've never so calmly and rationally thought about it like this before. That is what is worrying me now, I'm scared I will try to go through with it. I'm thinking it is the only way I can show people how I am feeling. I don't want to talk about what's going on with me. Let's just say things are getting to me and I am finding it difficult to cope.

Anti depressants? My reaction is always no way I don't want them. I don't want my thoughts and feelings to be controlled with drugs. Maybe I can be persuaded that they are a good idea? The other problem is I'm sure they are a temporary fix, and when I come off them I will be back where I started. Counseling I have tried and it's been fairly useless, I don't want to pursue that at the moment.

I want to know if there is anything else I haven't considered? Because at the moment I am feeling like I am running out of options and the best thing to do is to die :(

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Dear DMA, there certainly is something else you have not considered. Going to GOD in prayer and discussing this matter calm and collectively with Him. Since it is He who made you in the first place and gave you your own personal hour-glass counting how many years you have until He calls you home, it behooves you to go to Him as any son or daughter would go to their father and speak out what it is that has brought you to this point in your life and ask Him to tell you if taking your life before He is ready for you to come Home is what He would recommend you do.

I am very glad that you have considered discussing this matter with us as I, for one, Do CARE about your feelings and have decided to spend this time with you to let you know that a total stranger can care about you, one who has never seen you before or knows of your background, because we are all ONE in the family of God and YOU, DMA are included! When even one person considers ending their life, it is like the threat, for the rest of us, of removing that cornerstone of humanity, one of the most important pieces that holds the rest together. For if you were to do what you speak of, who would follow next? There are many impressionable people out there who come to these forums to read what others post and might want to take your idea as well. It would be a great achievement for you to reconsider your life on this planet and what lessons, designed to make you an even greater person, you came here to learn and how, despite the odds you feel may be presently against you, you can FIGHT to achieve those goals! That is what makes CHAMPIONS! You could not be a quitter because there is still that spark of HOPE in your soul and spirit that has led you to reach out to us. That is why it is so important that you go to God in prayer and speak to Him. You do not even need to be a Christian to do that. Just know that God created you too if you are not! Of that there can be no doubt. And His Caring for you is most Special because you are UNIQUE and SPECIAL with abilities that simply no one else in this world has, because they are not YOU, it has to be something that God gave to you for which you can feel very very proud and blessed to have!

I do not want for you to waste your time thinking about how you can cancel that precious gift. Whatever you are going through to cause you to reach this point in your life cannot be as insurmountable as the cup that was laid before Jesus Christ who came to be Our Lord and Savior. He gave of Himself so that we all could have Eternal Life by simply ACCEPTING Him into our life and Giving of ourselves to His cause. And you know what? Part of that giving is that you Remain Alive because He is ready to HELP you right now! Know that He would never give you more than you can possibly bear. The reason you feel the way you do is because there is division in your thoughts caused by Christ's adversary, satan. He does not want for you to finish your mission in life and thus, wants you to end it soon so that he can laugh and feel victorious. Do Not Let Him! For he is a liar and wants to cheat you out of your precious life, dear friend. And as one who truly cares, I would rather spend this time with you now and cancel all of my other plans I had for this evening in order to bring this special message to you. It is a message of LOVE. Why? Because as part of our human brotherhood, I want for you to know that You Are LOVED! I say this in all sincerity from deep within my heart. Those respondents on this thread who have taken the time to speak to you also, care very deeply or they would not have responded. Therefore, you are not alone.

When you go to God in prayer, it does not take a miracle to speak to Him. For He is there for you and has always been. You need just go to a place where you will not be disturbed and fold your hands as you feel comfortable and start speaking to Him. Even though all you may physically hear is silence, do not be dismayed. For be assured that He has heard your every word! Then, in due time, you should listen to what He, as your Heavenly Father, would say. He needs you here and now. With all the Love He can ever give to one of His children, He reaches out to you now. Please meet Him half way and touch His hand as He reaches out for yours. This moment should be the most special one in your entire life. You will forever remember when you do this and know that He will guide you in ways you never thought possible to get your life back together again with Peace and Tranquility as it should be. If the problem or difficulty you now face was given to you out of LOVE, you would not be considering what you have spoken about. You are a being of Love, conceived in LOVE therefore, you must align yourself with the LOVE that not only we give to you but that God your Heavenly Father gives to you. You have free will, however, to consider this or not. But if you choose the latter, you will never know the mountains of grace you would have gained from listening to the ONE in the entire universe of universes who already has a Great Plan for you and your continuing life and is just waiting to see if you wish to accept it!

Please look at the beautiful rose to the left of my message and the Light that shines down from above and know that you are that rose and the Light is coming from Heaven shining upon you as an invitation to remain firm with your life and that just as that rose is beautiful, God sees you as being the beautiful person that you truly are!

Thank you most kindly for allowing me to be a part of your family this evening and hopefully for a very long time, DMA, as without you on this planet, life and the totality of precious life, would be minus one Very Important Person -- YOU, my dear friend. Be at Peace with God with the Lord at your side and His Holy Spirit and May He Bless and Protect You Always From All Bodily Harm!

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Within a 24 hour period I had a fire in my apartment losing everything I owned; my boyfriend left me; I almost lost my life in the fire and have permanent smoke inhalation damage to my lungs; I went to my job only to be laid off. I had literally nothing but I didn't do myself in.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Just stop and think for a minute what my 24 hour nightmare must have been like to go through. Somehow I made it through that horrible day. You can make it through the week, trust me. Whatever the problem pressing upon you right now, it too shall pass.

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Must say great courage twinkiedooter.. keep it up and take care always.

Your emotions are all choked up and held back by a thick veneer of analytic respectability... you have to find a safe place where you can tear down the wall that has all your emotions held back, emotions all jumbled up and in confusion, get those emotions out so they can see the light of day. :)

Don't give up on life over stuff that "happens" to you such as divorce, losing a job, moving, or any other event that many face. Happiness does not depend on the superficial events that happen to us any more than a placid uneventful life can bring happiness. A love for living comes from within... get those mixed-up emotions out so they can be examined and discarded. :)

Best wishes going forward,

I have felt like you. Things have happened to me that seemed so unfair and so bad that it was impossible for me to imagine life ever getting better. It did. I am getting up in years, and I can tell you from experience- all things pass, problems that seem insurmountable eventually are resolved one way or another and acceptance does eventually bring relief. You will get through it- whatever it is, and eventually, you will feel better. Do you feel impossibly overwhelmed? Dreading something is always worse than its actuality. As for anti-depresssants, they won't "drug" you or cloud your thinking, but, they won't work quickly either. It will take a month or so for you to feel any effect, and it is not a magic pill. If you are clinically depressed- these may eventually help you. If it is just that you are overwhelmed, angry, hurt, feeling that the world has turned its back on you, dreading some terrible future event then I think that you need to talk to someone who is willing just to listen. It will help to say it out loud to someone who can be trusted and not someone involved in the situation. Lastly- Who cares if other people know how you feel! I know that we all do care, but listen- NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW HOW ANYONE ELSE REALLY FEELS. And some people don't or can't even try. Killing yourself will not accomplish that. There are people who will listen if you don't have anyone. I will find the #'s and post as soon as I can.

Sorry to hear that:( ; don't sell yourself short. Antidepressants or other medications to help stress and suicidal thoughts, are originally given in low dosages while you deal with therapy. Please get some professional help. Give yourself another chance. No one knows what you are going through and it doesn't matter if they have experienced it too. Your reaction or coping is not similar to theirs.

Look in the phone book and call the crisis center. Be honest with yourself. We have all done things we have regretted.

Do take care of yourself and trust in the higher power.

Good Luck

Oh dear! I'm not doing very well am I? Thanks for all the replies.

Isn't it possible that there is a limit to how much a person can take before it becomes too much to deal with? Yes things can always get better one day. But if it gets worse for too long then the strain can not be tolerated any longer. I will probably find out the outcome of the event I mentioned next week now. Still, if the outcome isn't good I could be in trouble. It could go either way I really don't know what the outcome will be right now.

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Your emotions are all choked up and held back by a thick veneer of analytic respectability....you have to find a safe place where you can tear down the wall that has all your emotions held back, emotions all jumbled up and in confusion, get those emotions out so they can see the light of day. :)

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Good insight but how do I do that?

Would you care to share the event for which the outcome would be so detrimental to you? It might help if we could give you alternative solutions to the problem that might seem to you like the end of the world. If you would like to share, I'm sure we would be more able to give you the best insight, though I understand if you'd rather not.

Even though you don't want to talk to someone you have to if you don't want to have those thoughts ever again.

I am not sure what kind of event you are anticipating... a drastic blow to your income and standard of living? Loss of a spouse? Going to prison? It matters what's going on in your life, and what has gone wrong in the recent past that has your emotions at the breaking point.

One thing for sure, a person has to have a varied life so that when one or two aspects go south, there are other parts of a person's life that bring enjoyment and happiness. If as you say, a lot has gone wrong, that is what brings a person to the breaking point.

Now, if this crisis passes, you can take a sigh of relief, and then, analyze your life and take steps to add positive things to your life to add balance... like a couple of new friends, exercise(I'm big on exercise, a cureall, of sorts)like being on a bowling league, getting a new job... whatever it takes, one step at a time, to bring happy activities to your life.

I'm hoping you settle down until the news comes... I remember reading some of your posts here on amhd, and wouldn't want to see you do something drastic... I'll share this with you, about two months ago, I almost ended it all on an impulse when I was in a very deep depression late at night. I was almost in a frenzy of despair. I made it to morning, and soon the feeling left me when I got in touch with a good friend and settled down. Then, I did my usual daily regimen of looking how to be happy or enjoy the day. :)

We all can learn from what we go through and find enjoyment. We have to remember that during the bleakest times.

I hope you will get back to us when the crisis is over and tell us good news. :)

Until then,

Have you tried natural remedies at all? I have a few issues and I have never tried medication for them.Instead I use an holistic approach.Sometimes that's all it takes.. change of nutritional needs,mental/emotional/spiritual balance.It CAN make a world of difference.

I have not tired natural remedies. I can't really see how they work to be honest. Depends on the problem and the person I guess.

Ok I didn't want to tell you the event because I know what you will say. And you are right, you have said it already. It's about losing a job. It's not a dream job and it's not a well paid job. It's about how I am expecting to feel about the whole situation and the reasons if I do loose it. Don't say it's nothing... "you can get another job". Think of the straw that broke the camel's back.

As I am right now I am not that depressed. That is what I meant when I said "I've never so calmly and rationally thought about it". How I will feel in a few days depends on the outcome of the situation.

I know that gut wrenching feeling to do with 'knowing' your life will fall apart based on a decision at work.

What's actually happening? Can you be a bit more specific?

Hi again, DMA,

Losing a job is a shocking and frightening experience for many... when I worked at the bank, I talked to a lot of people who lost their jobs and were rolling over their 401k or esop, or whatever.

Then, one day, I got called in, and I was out... and left ten minutes later. My job was my whole life and my whole identity. I was totally shook to the core. I just kept putting one foot in front of the other until I gained some financial security of sorts. I have to say that I was working as a totally disabled person, so I qualified for Social Security in two months.

Life may change, but there are always positive things going on in life.

Did you lose your job?

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I have not tired natural remedies. I can't really see how they work to be honest. Depends on the problem and the person I guess.

Ok I didn't want to tell you the event because I know what you will say. And you are right, you have said it already. It's about loosing a job. It's not a dream job and it's not a well paid job. It's about how I am expecting to feel about the whole situation and the reasons why if I do loose it. Don't say it's nothing... "you can get another job". Think of the straw that broke the camel's back.

As I am right now I am not that depressed. That is what I meant when I said "I've never so calmly and rationally thought about it". How I will feel in a few days depends on the outcome of the situation.

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Natural remedies for such as depression can help ease the symptoms.No, it will not make the issue go away but it can help lessen the severity of it.

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I am almost certain I will find out tomorrow (friday). I have been told the personnel manager will be speaking to me.

I have been OK but now I know its tomorrow I am not feeling so good. Took me about a year to get this job. I really wanted it. I have done my job well and they are so busy there. So why will they want to fire me? Well, I lied on my application form. It was not to decieve them to get a job I am not qualified for or not able to do. I really wanted this job, I just wanted to be given the chance. I don't know what I am going to do if I loose it. Just struggle on? Keep trying? It's been long enough now.. too long. Will I try and kill myself? I really don't know. I never would have thought I would cut myself but I did in the end.

DMA, losing a job isn't the end of the world, there's always another job around the corner. Everything happens for a reason, and don't be so certain that you are going to be fired, don't burn your bridges yet.

Tomorrow go in with a level head, explain yourself clearly, do not hide behind the lie, but admit why you did it and that you regret it. Tell them how much you love this job and that you do not want to lose it. They are human beings, give them a chance.

If you do lose your job, then pick yourself up, dust yourself off and find another.

Have you gone to your doctor and told him/her about your depression? I think med's would really help you right now, and some therapy.

Just remember all the things you do have to live for, dig deep, I know they are there, focus on those, not the negative. You will get through this, it won't be easy, but the most important things usually aren't.

If you ever want to talk PM me, I'm here, along with so many others on this site. We care about you and what happens, so talk to us. Okay?

Going off what Alt said, what about your wife or kids if you have them? Don't have them? Well give yourself a chance to get them. I know everyone says "it's just a job, get another" and that's exactly what you don't want to hear, but they are saying it for a reason. It's not that it doesn't suck to lose a great job that you love, it goes more along with the saying "when one door closes, a window opens." Ya, I bet if you lose this job it will suck juevos. But I bet if you don't give things a chance to improve after that, you will miss out on the happiness you can have after. Good luck.

I've taken anti depressants for over 12 years. I have weened off them and stayed off for as long as 1 year and my depression always returns. I believe that I have clinical depression and I will take medication for the rest of my life, rather than ever having to feel that hopeless, painful, dreadful feeling of wanting to die again. When I don't take my meds, I'm angry and cry constantly. I cannot concentrate and nobody wants to be around me. When I take my meds regularly, I'm productive, functional and react normally to situations whether they are good or bad. I cry when it's appropriate and get great enjoyment from just being alive. I have never felt numbed by the medication, only in control of myself and my life. There are hundreds of different anti-depressants to try and surely one of them could help you get a better perspective on life. At least go talk to a Social Worker or a doctor or someone who can steer you in the right direction. Don't give up. Life is so full of miracles.

I got fired today. I explained why I did it; because I really wanted the job, not to try and deceive them. They left to decide and came back with the bad news.

I did my job well and got on OK with everyone. Turned up for work even when I was not feeling well. Stayed on to finish work even though they were not paying overtime. Overall I think I was a good employee. It was a risk to lie on the application form. It was possible I could have got the job without lying, but I don't believe I would have got it. This is the first time I've done this and I did it because I wasn't getting anywhere. After being out of work and really depressed for a very long time, I thought this was going to be my break.

No I don't have a wife or kids. And this job was a basic, minimum wage job in a supermarket. So let's say I can't do that. Get another job? What else is there? I should aim lower than the bottom rung? I did well at school and quite well at college, I'm not stupid.

What do I have to live for? It's made clear to me that I am not wanted. Everyone is better off or would prefer it if I wasn't around. I have had enough of feeling like this.

I don't know about other people in your life, but even not knowing you except through this post, I would feel absolutely horrible if you weren't to come back. Every life is worth something, and now I'm connected to yours, even though it's only through a keyboard and screen. Your perception that you're not wanted is wrong. You just can't see anything straight through the tears and heartache over losing something you wanted so much.

You obviously have a good work ethic. Maybe your answer is not to aim for a lower level, but aim in a different direction at the same level, if that makes sense. If I may ask, what did you major in in college?

There are people out there, employers, women, searching for people with your work ethic, who can be really committed. Don't sell yourself short. Yourself esteem is low right now. That means you view yourself WAY more critically than everyone else does. You see every single one of your flaws, even the most insignificant, and perhaps some that aren't even real, while everyone else sees the good parts of you that you overlook. At least give it time. Don't make any decisions right away.

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Your perception that you're not wanted is wrong. You just can't see anything straight through the tears and heartache over losing something you wanted so much....You obviously have a good work ethic. Maybe your answer is not to aim for a lower level, but aim in a different direction at the same level, if that makes sense. If I may ask, what did you major in in college?

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Yes, please don't make any decisions at the moment, and promise us you won't do anything to hurt yourself.

Four years ago I was given the choice to accept an early retirement after 24 years of service or be fired. I took the retirement. Afterward, my income was cut in half, my car was repossessed, I filed bankruptcy and then re-established a whole new nightmare of debt. I'm fighting with my mortgage company to avoid foreclosure and I'm so far in the hole, I might never get out. BUT, I keep taking my meds and I get up everyday and try to make the best of it and never go to sleep without counting my blessings. Many of us are at the bottom of the barrell these days and it gets extremely overwhelming at times, but remember that nothing in life stays the same. Everything is constantly changing. Starting over again and again may seem tiring, but it's one of the cycles of life, like night and day or Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter. It's all cycles. Hang in there. I'm praying for you.

If you kill yourself your just another cliché. Make something of yourself! Don't let some event control your existence. Think of what your killing yourself would do to family and friends. If you ever need someone to talk to, we all will be here.

DMA I am really sorry to hear about you losing your job. Desperate times do seek desperate measures. If you are indeed going to kill yourself could you hold off for a few more months... please:( ? You see, I can't take losing another friend so soon. I know I seem selfish but since you came into our lives you are a part of us, please promise to hold off a bit.
You did what you thought was the right thing to do... the lying part. Don't know what you lied about but right now that is not important. It is quite obvious you have some really good work ethics; you are what society needs more of. Every job is important; fortunately and unfortunately some people have choices as to the kind of job they want to do. Your so called" basic" job is not so basic you did the work, so you know how much had to go into it to fulfill that circle to keep the supermarket running. Whether it is the cashier, bagger, bathroom cleaner etc they are all important. I see that no matter what task you are given you do it to the best of your ability.
You certainly don't want to hear any cliché but "everything does happen for a reason" and in the end you might thank God for unanswered prayers. There is a plan for you. You said you have some college so I am going to assume you know some stuff about computers. You might be able to sell some stuff on the computer or learn how to open your own business….starting very small of course and possible not getting paid a lot at the beginning. I know it seems far fetched but this might be your time to do the impossible... realize the dream you deemed impossible. Isn't there something you have noticed at the supermarket that needs improving? You might be the one to devise a plan to improve and fix it for all supermarkets or businesses.
DMA we all love you and look forward to hearing from you and no, we do not know exactly how you feel even if we had the same demise, we all react differently.
I just want to keep on writing so you can understand how we all feel about you and your situation. Please don't shut us out keep us informed. Oh yeah, picture yourself with those little ones running around. The little daddy's girl you adore. You have been loyal and good to every one... do me a favor and try to treat yourself the way you have and still treat others. We all have scars, scratches and bumps from the road of life; it is not always easy getting up, sometimes you have to crawl for a while or use crutches before you can walk on your own again. You will overcome this NYC sized pot hole.
Good luck to you and I will be saying a prayer for you.
Remember you are not a bad person and we are all looking forward to hearing from you.

I am from england, so when I say college I think that means high school in american english. I did maths and physics A-levels. They are one down from degree level.

With regards to getting another job even in a supermarket is going to be very difficult. Academic qualifications are worthless compared to experience (except specific jobs like a doctor, etc. that have to be qualified too). I am rather disappointed since I've always been told it's really important to do well in school to get a decent job. But just getting ANY job is very difficult without experience. So you see to just go out and get another job is not always possible. What's really needed is a family member to put in a good word to get you that 1st job at least. That is how it is here, I wonder is it different in the USA? I know it was very different for my parents, they could just go out and get a job right after they finished school at age 16. No experience needed.

Starting a business is a nice idea, but I would really not be good at that. This isn't me selling myself short, I am being realistic.

I have really good work ethics? In that case then, this supermarket is going to loose out by not having me there.

Wow, you took GCE "A" level Maths and Physics?:D I am totally impressed;) . I am almost scared to ask how many "O" levels did you received. Congratulations how on earth did you do it and what grades? I am so proud of you. Now I understand and thanks for you honesty. I think if we all put our heads together we can come up with a possible solution to your job dilemma. Now what are your hobbies and do you do volunteer work. Can you do that for experience? I know I am losing focus but how many subjects did you take at school. Is there a possibility you can become a tutor... you do have so much to offer. Is it easy to convey what you know to others? You did excellent in two hard subjects and if you can break that knowledge down to a struggling Secondary school student... in ways that no one else can that would be great. Maybe you can give lessons privately or publicly for exposure and to open another maybe chance for you. This is going to take some time for us to figure out what you might be capable of doing?

Is this vaguely helpful? Future possibilities maybe?
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Well here, any "good job" you will likely need some kind of experience, but for jobs at McDonalds, I don't think you have to even graduate from high school (unless you want to work in a management job maybe). Maybe you can get a job at a restaurant or something? Maybe a mom-and-pop kind of set up? Best of luck.

DMA ,frangipanis has a really good idea, do check that site out. Anyone else out there with other ideas please post them. You are right about experience.. no job without experience and can't get experience without working.

Do check the internet and check the possibilities. There is something out there for you. For all you professionals on this site please post your ideas and comments. I know we only know what is posted by the writers on this site and we don't know them from Adam but everyone deserves a fighting chance. There is someone out there who can assist DMA in ways the rest of us can't so please do the write thing and assist our buddy, deal with this battle.

To everyone else out there thanks for coming to the aid of our friend DMA.

One other thing DMA start writing a journal. It will put things in perspective and give you something to look back on when you get into another struggle... and believe me there will be more you will be able to see and deal with them in a different way.