Again, the Coastal Synergy Group ( CSG ) is not a company, but rather a group of private business owners within Coastal Vacations, that prides itself on mentoring, coaching, supporting, and guiding each other to succeed. It is not multi level marketing. It is direct sales. There is a requirement of 2 training sales, but after achieving those two sales, you are forever a Coastal Director in business for yourself, but never by yourself.
Read about some of our directors, from monthly issues of Home Business Connection magazine, and listen to some of the Audio testimonies of real people.
Jandsfisher.csglifestyles.com
And then judge for yourself.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Where?

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My girlfriend had a prospect who was interested in joining CSG.

Instead of joining CSG, she had found another company claiming to be with coastal vacation that claim they will give you the directors release right off the bat.

She paid them the $300 or something for the directors release. She never heard back.

There are frauds. But I know CSG is valid. That's all I can say.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

With so many fraudulent companies imitating the original perhaps David would be better off chekcing out other companies. The potential consumers of Coastal will eventually get confused.

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Due diligence:
Both Parinda and smfish have registered in the last 2 days and have only posted in threads to boost the view of this company. This is quite typical.

My girlfriend has had some people tell her they heard or read bad things about the company.
I was very surprised because I know my girlfriend spent a month doing her due diligence and looking the company up. She would ask them what did they hear, because she was interested, and instead of answering they would hang up.

So I decided to do my own research to see what is bad.
I found this website and found these false comments that had nothing to do with CSG.

That is why I made my comments.

So what if I just joined? What is wrong with that?

I am not trying to boost the view of the company.

I would like however, for all the negative things to be legit.
If this company is a fraud, or a scam then it should be known.

But there has been nothing bad about the company as I have experienced it by watching my girlfriend. Nor has there been anything authentic or accurate negative about it posted here.

Instead, when someone would ask about Coastal Synergy Group, Fr_Chuck would post links regarding real fraud companies.

Now I am understanding why people think CSG is bad. People like you keep giving it a bad rep when it had nothing to do with the complaints people made.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Due diligence:
Both Parinda and smfish have registered in the last 2 days and have only posted in threads to boost the view of this company. This is quite typical.

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For some people it is easier to stand back, and point fingers, from the outside, instead of accepting an invitation to come in out of the rain, to see, and to judge for yourself.
Give me a call on my toll free number and leave a voice message if I am unavailable. I will Direct you to what ever information you need.
1-888-292-0967

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Originally Posted by smfishe

I am not here to sell you anything, just provide you with some information, that you are requesting.

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Yet you have a toll-free number setup to give them a free ticket. Face it, you're just a shill for the company here to pump it.

Same goes with your buddy Parindra who talks about hearing real people making money then links to a Coastal site where employees answer the phone. Also that site mention very little about the actual product or service that one would sell - a definite danger signal of MLM schemes.

Also you'll notice during web searches that many discussion board postings proceed exactly as this one: someone registers on the same day that they post a question about Coastal, other people register that same day or the next day and offer beautiful copy/paste answers. Never do longtime posters in those discussion groups ever pipe in to offer their success stories.

Be very wary of this group and their "directors".

1) I do not know this person

2) There is a dedicated website for explaining what the company is and the products and services

3) There are testimonies all the time about successful people in the Home Business Connection magazine

4) There is a website full of testimonies from members

5) There are real live testimonies everyday on the calls and online presentation
It's not recorded. Come and see for yourself.

6) This is not MLM. In MLM there are people above you making money off you when you sell a product.

7) I never linked to a site where Staff answer phone calls. I gave a number for a Live QA event call that takes place everyday where a bunch of are on the call and take turns asking questions. The people hosting the calls are not Staff, but members themselves who are interested in leadership roles and are taking time from their life to help in.

8) I'm not here to pump up the company. I'm not a member.
I'm here to find out whether there is something real about negative things people have heard about CSG, and so far there isn't.

I don't really understand what your deal is. By what you have been saying, you really know nothing about CSG, or the system they use. You seem by default to think it's something bad. Are you having problems in your sex life, that you need to take anger out on innocent people and mislead them? I'm sorry if I am getting personal here. But sometimes angry people want to ruin things for others.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Yet you have a toll-free number setup to give them a free ticket. Face it, you're just a shill for the company here to pump it.

Same goes with your buddy Parindra who talks about hearing real people making money then links to a Coastal site where employees answer the phone. Also that site mention very little about the actual product or service that one would sell - a definite danger signal of MLM schemes.

Also you'll notice during web searches that many discussion board postings procede exactly as this one: someone registers on the same day that they post a question about Coastal, other people register that same day or the next day and offer beautiful copy/paste answers. Never do longtime posters in those discussion groups ever pipe in to offer their success stories.

Be very wary of this group and their "directors".

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Needkarma, are you actually interested in getting information about the CSG or do you just want to try sling hash. WE are not an MLM. To become a Director you have two training sales to be guided through. After that you receive 100% of your commissions. That free ticket is to be able to see a LIVE webcast right on your computer. The webcast is a full presentation, and is usually attended by a crowd of between 150 - 400 Guests and Directors, Of whom you can chat with, and ask questions.

Hear are some facts for you:
CSG group of Private business owners, Not a Company. No Employees. Not a JOB
Product: Coastal Vacations Lifetime Membership travel packages which have been around for over 12 years.
Partnered with Vendors such as Hilton, Sheraton, Fairfield, Marriot, Carnival, hertz, etc.
I own my Own BUSINESS. I don't work for somebody else. I get paid directly.
When someone purchases a package from me, I have it drop shipped to them.
Just as Parindra's GF does.

And I take offense to someone who insinuates that myself and my awesome business associates, are not legit.

Has anyone heard of Coastal Vacations? Are the a lefit company? Are they a trusted home based business?

Please do a search of this site, you will find this company has been discussed to death.

Also do a web search of the company, add to their name, complaints,

You will find tons of complaints on the company.

And normally as soon as a new member asks this question, someone from their group finds their way here and will explain they are not really a company, but merely an association that starts individuals in their own business, but they have never been able to properly defend the group or explain who actually owns them, and the such.

My opinion, I would not use them, but many do from what I understand.

Please do web searches and search this site and find what has been said about them, and the many problems others have had with them.

Then make an educated choice of what you want to do.

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Originally Posted by yvettev

Has anyone heard of Coastal Vacations? Are the a lefit company? Are they a trusted home based business?

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Great Question. I've been with Coastal for almost 4 years. I'm very successful with Coastal and DO know the answers to your question from experience.

Fr_Chuck is correct. There are a few dings here and there online. You'll find that with anything you search out. Yes, even Apple Computer. Here's what my research found when I was researching Coastal.

1) There are a few bad apples who have a few dings. Most of them move onto other things very quickly.

2) It's important with the product that you stay connected and that you do attend the product trainings. The Board of Directors offer 1 training a week. Your membership comes with an audio tape that goes over the membership. My team is doing 5 product trainings a week. We have a team of 6 people who are product centered - in other words - Product Experts... available to you. We're even taking a Group CSG Cruise to Mexico with Carnival Cruise Lines.

3) It's important that you find the right fit. There are groups within Coastal who specialize in areas like call centers, online automation and then there are folks like me who know this business front to back and will train you on how to be successful making Coastal Vacations your home business. Much like McDonalds have their University - My team, the Coastal Synergy Group has CSG University.

Hope this helps you in your research.

Jay NaPier

The Coastal Synergy Group is one of the most caring groups of people I've ever met. These are people who volunteer their own time to help others become successful in business.

When you consider investing in a business, there are THOUSAND of options. You can do a search on Subway and find that many of their franchisees have had legal issues with them because of the way they do business... yet, people go and eat their sandwiches. Remember, the owners of a Subway Franchise paid a lot more than a few thousand dollars to learn how to make those sandwiches.

Coastal offers the average person the opportunity to be paid above average incomes.

I'm an entrepreneur. I've owned a restaurant franchise, convience store, ad agence and even my own soy candle business. Coastal allows me to live the life I've always dream of. Money, Travel and Time freedom.

I LOVE to travel. I'm using my membership to go to LA the first weekend of March 07. I'm back in LA 10 days later. I'm taking a cruise to Mexico in May. I'm going to Atlanta in April, I've got plans for Las Vegas in June.

You get what you focus on. If you look for reason not to do something... you'll find it. I'm successful because I'm a self starter who simply showed up for the trainings. Last month the Coastal Synergy Group brought the Regional Training events right here to Nashville! I was there. We had a great time at BB Kings, we had a hummer limo, and stayed at the Hotel Preston. We're real people, making real money.

Come to our next event in April in Atlanta - find out for yourself.

Jay NaPier

Positive people give positive posts!

Look at the people who are posting. Are they negative posters or positive posters?

I don't know who the people are... I'm new. What I DO KNOW is that I've been in this business for almost 4 years. I'm very successful in the business. I use the product ( we work with over 60 companies) and I'm a Very Happy Member of Coastal.

I have a new team member who just got started with Coastal 2 weeks ago. She lives here in Nashville and she's a very happy member. She's going to Orlando in 2 weeks and will stay at a Westgate resort for $39.95 per night. Folks, you can't stay at the Red Roof for $39.95 a night.

How about saving 20% on Omaha Steaks? $5 off a hair cut? Buy 1 get 1 free at Domino's

How about a weekend in Gatlinburg for $19.88 ( that's just the taxes).

I'm not here to pass judgement against anyone. I'm simply adding my 2 cents. I'm a member and I'm a Happy Member.



Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director
Coastal Synergy Group

The Coastal Vacations business is all about Training and Support. You want to work with a group of people who are willing to help you. The Coastal Synergy Group is a great group of people who help each other in business.

There are some slash n burn sales people who are just out to get your dollar, but those are generally also the people you don't feel comfortable with on the phone.

I don't use a call center and any type of assistant to answer my phones. I make the time to talk with everyone who wants to speak with me who calls my office. I'm very available to everyone.

Finding the right answers for you can mostly be found within yourself. Do your own research and don't allow anyone to make the decision for you. Not even the dog catcher!

Jay NaPier

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

I have no perosnal first hand info on them

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This is an important statement when you consider any business. The Coastal Synergy Group could also be referred to as the people with heart. We have the CSG Pro Hearing group that was put together by two of my friends Pam from Ohio and Carol from Pittsburg. Where others would have said NO - they found a way to make it happen.

Taking the steps to bring Coastal Vacations to the hearing impaired is not an easy task and it's a task that requires funding. I'm very proud to say that the Coastal Synergy Group raised over $17,000 to help bring this opportunity to the hearing impaired. That's why when you go to one of our movie presentation, you'll find that there's information for the hearing impaired.

When you bring the right positive attitude to the table you get things done!

Jay NaPier

Of course this statement was made in Nov of 2005, and of what we have learned of them since then, my personal advice is to look at the 100's of pages of people who tell you the problems they have had with this group.

I personally can't imange anyone doing business with them, I am sure that there are some operators who have done well, and do good things, but with that the long list of people saying the negative things just can't be overlooked.


LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.



Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.



http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.
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Yes please do your research, and you will soon see what to be worried about, if after seeing all the problems people have with this group, you still want to spend your money, you are risking your money with knowledge


LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.


Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.


http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.
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And honest people warn people about a fool and their money being soon parted.

Warning people about a company that has 100's of pages of complaints and problems, it is also positive, that people are warned.


LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS, Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.



Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.
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http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.

It is obvious that people who work for the company are on here tying to "sell" their products.

It is not uncommom we have seen it in the past, in this case every old post from 2 years ago are being brought back,

Even this sort of activity has negative impacts since it shows a over sell just to get the name out there.



LIBERTY LEAGUE, COASTAL VACATIONS,  Illegal Pyramid Scheme Aussie 2-up  Australian two up
COASTAL VACATION RIP OFF REPORT

Ed Note: Costal Vacations has been ripping people off for years. I first wrote about them in 1996 in the MLM Insider Magazine. There is an article here on the MLMWatchDog site. The article in 1996 was about the Alabama AG hitting them. Since then I am pretty sure the owner moved to Florida and has a bunch of dumb henchmen out front so he can avoid THE LAW Here is a recent report.



Fellow Warriors,



I've had very bad experiences with a company that is being marketed with at least one top marketer here and I want to at least share my experiences with this company and complaint case numbers, because it was also in my own signiture link until recently, and I don't want anyone else mistakenly thinking that it's a good company - -at least from my point of view.



Note these could just be my unique experiences with the company is question, Coastal Vacations, under the name of several other entities but all having travel vacation packages beginning around $1,295. It says it is not MLM, because it offers the Aussie 2-tier or something along those lines. But as simply a retail purchase, here is what I've found:



1. When I decided to test their marketing packages for what they call “Directors,” one main Coastal website seller turned out to sell me a site with misleading automation that supposedly “tracked every visitor, giving me their name and email address & phone number” - -right. Never happened. When I asked about this, I was ignored until the Better Business Bureau helped them reply to me. The company in question said that this technology does not exist and that everyone should know that. (I didn't, so guess I'm not a techno-geek or something). Anyway, this company did refund my total payment and even reworded their business site after prompting from the Attorney General's Office and Better Business Bureau.



2. The one so-called “approved” Coastal Vacations' business online who does lease sites and offer other services and products to Directors via Home seriously lied to me to get me to order products and services that were NOT at all what they'd said over the phone, nor what they faxed nor what they postal-mailed me about. What I was supposed to get for my $$ and what I actually received were very different - - like sites that would not allow me to edit the products that I wanted to show (for example, I only wanted to show a Level 1 package and was told in writing, on the phone, etc. that this was what I would get but never did. Instead my site with MY contact info sold very much higher packages that I cannot even order which would force sales elsewhere or of course ME to purchase at thousands more, their packages myself via a licensed Director (& giving this Director my 1st 2 sales afterwards - --duh!! )



3. Further testing of my own retail package, which I should have done BEFORE trying to resell, proved that it was worthless garbage, again in my opinion and to me. There were zero, let me repeat, zero activated membership cards at all in the package. I had to jump more hoops and send in $10 to have these beauties sent separately. Plus I've yet to find any value in them - like the Roadside Assistance - - there is NO assistance with this card that I found. If I call, they will find companies willing to make a deal to SELL me services at a discounted rate - - right - -while I'm stranded somewhere, like I could call and compare! I'm sticking with AAA, thank you. They INCLUDE services for the price –duh.



And the half-off / discounted cards for all kinds of hotels, food, theme parks, etc. are junk. I live right outside the capitol city of Ohio and there is like 3 “restaurants” in this directory - - and 1 is a cookie making shop (some Dining establishment, huh? ) Again, AAA offers much better tickets and deals and no hoop jumping.



4. Finally, last but BIGGEST - -get this: I was NOT allowed to book any travel from my travel package with over 25 trips, because – don't laugh: I'm married and want to travel alone. (I'm a freelance writer & do this frequently, hence my interest in this package - -but am happily married to a hubby who runs his business in Ohio and doesn't travel). Married people HAVE to have spouses travel with them. Period. Thought I was in the USA, but must be the Middle East or something….



Anyway, Warriors, please be alert that NOT all speakers at these big marketing events announced by fellow Warriors and linked as affiliates / selling programs (unfortunately even in my own links) are worth your time and effort. The hosts at these events are probably very much unaware, too. And the resellers may be like me and NOT have tested their wares first - - -major error!!



So look out for your own company and test, test, test things.



If anyone was mislead by my link, I sincerely apologize and do honestly continue testing my own affiliate / jv deals and announce troubling ones like this as soon as I can.



Again, this was my own personal experience with Coastal Vacations, so this only represents my side. Here are case numbers & complaint info on my Coastal dealings for reference (so far most $$ has been refunded):



1. Ohio Better Business Bureau: Complaint #: 1339515, Complaint #: 1346544



2.Ohio Attorney General's Office: Complaint No. 246865



3. NJ Attorney General's Office: OCP Complaint Form ( -Reply)

Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:51:39 -0500



4. Attorney General Florida Office



5. Chase VISA and Paypal have active complaints on file, too.

http://pdfserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/372709/pr.pdf NaPier has taken hundreds of calls from people who were scammed by Coastal Vacations Directors who didn't ship their membership, didn't provide training and support and sold them a bunch of lies. One recent caller explained that his director said "All you do is learn marketing and advertising, our team of specialists will take care of everything else and we'll even send you a check". The caller, Tom said; "It took 5 weeks for My ad to hit and the people who were supposed to help me make a return on my $1995 investment recorded only 3 responses to an ad that cost me $265. To read the rest of this release, go to Coastal Vacations Director Jay NaPier Fights for Coastal Members who Have Been Scammed by Coastal Scam Artists

Now I will say that I would probably do business with Jay NaPier, he from what I found is a honest person and trying to fix the issues the company has had. But short him him personally I don't know about the rest.