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  • Oct 13, 2011, 02:37 PM
    cassi999
    transpose formula questions and answers?
    transpose formula maths
    transpose the formula to make z the subject and determine it value when w=4, x=1.5 and y=0.85

    y=(2 x)(3-z)/4w

    transpose the formula using z the subject and obtain its value when y=2*10^3 and x=750

    y=3?(x^2 -z^2)

    transpose the equations to make c the subject and determine its value when a=4.5 and b3.6
    for a c^ =c^ 3 a b
    b) transpose the equation to make v the subject and determine its value when a=0.75,u=3.6 and t=10.5

    v^-u^/2a= u t 1/2 a t^
  • Oct 14, 2011, 01:33 AM
    Unknown008
    1. To make z the subject of formula,
    a. multiply both sides by 4w
    b. divide both side by (2+x)
    c. subtract 3 from both sides
    d. multiply both sides by -1.

    Can you try that an post what you get? :)
  • Oct 15, 2011, 02:25 PM
    cassi999
    Really tired got random and weird answers.. could you try it.. and there was a mistake in the questions above .

    a.) y=(2+x)(3-z)/4w
    b.) y=3(x^2 -z^2)

    Thank you
  • Oct 16, 2011, 06:52 AM
    Unknown008
    It's just as I said.

    Here, let me show you, but promise me to try the others and post every line you come up with :)



    1. To make z the subject of formula,
    a. multiply both sides by 4w





    b. divide both side by (2+x)





    c. subtract 3 from both sides





    d. multiply both sides by -1.







    Now, if you understood why I did those, you would see that each step removed something that was 'attached' to z. Can you try out the others and post them here? Even the weird answers that you got, and how you got them, so that we know exactly what went wrong.
  • Oct 16, 2011, 03:15 PM
    cassi999
    okay.. I don't know how to convert steps into the formula with this equation... y=3(x^2 -z^2)

    y=3(x 2 -z 2 )
    (x 2 - z 2 ) = y/3
    z =((x 2 - (y/3))
    so that's (750^2 -z^2)-2*10^3/3
    ... 750^2-2000/3= 56183

    I know something is wrong with the answer.. it looks funny
  • Oct 16, 2011, 11:04 PM
    Unknown008
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cassi999 View Post
    okay.. I don't know how to convert steps into the formula with this equation... y=3(x^2 -z^2)

    y=3(x^2 -z^2)
    (x 2 - z 2 ) = y/3

    Good :)

    Quote:

    z =((x 2 - (y/3))
    No, you missed the square here, or you forgot to type it... but anyway, this should be:





    Quote:

    so that's (750^2 -z^2)-2*10^3/3
    I'm not sure why you did that... but if you want to make it 'not wrong', it should be equal to zero.

    Quote:

    ... 750^2-2000/3= 56183

    I know something is wrong with the answer.. it looks funny
    Can you try again with the new equation you got? :)
  • Oct 18, 2011, 06:33 AM
    cassi999
    okay so basically √(750^2-(2000/3)) = 749.5
    Is that correct?
    Thank you
  • Oct 18, 2011, 10:30 AM
    Unknown008
    Yes yes it is! :)

    Okay, can you try the next one? Post what you came up with, just like the previous.
  • Oct 22, 2011, 05:39 AM
    cassi999
    hi I have done transpose could you check to see if it is correct
    u=v-at where a=5 t=10 and u=25
    2) s=1/2(v+u)t where s=1550 u=75 and t=6.1
    3) h= v^/ 2g where h=2.5*10^6 and g=9.81
    are the questions

    answers
    u = v - at
    v = u + at
    = 25 + 50 = 75

    s = 1/2(v + u)t
    2s/t = v + u
    v = ((2s)/t) - u
    = (3100/6.1) - 75

    h = v^2/2g
    v^2 = 2hg
    v = sqrt(2hg)
    = sqrt(2 * 2.5 * 10^6 *9.81)

    I didn't understand this one though
    4) x=¹(2yv-z) where x=2.5*10-^3 and z=1.2*10-^6
  • Oct 22, 2011, 07:04 AM
    Unknown008
    Good! Very good even! :)

    And... the last one didn't come out well... there's a weird symbol in there :(
  • Oct 23, 2011, 03:52 PM
    cassi999
    Can u go through with the last question Thank you
  • Oct 24, 2011, 12:08 AM
    Unknown008
    I would be glad to, but as I told you there is this "¹" symbol which I don't know what that means...
  • Oct 25, 2011, 01:20 PM
    cassi999
    Hi
    I can't see that weird a symbol do u mind showing ot to me please
    Thanks
  • Oct 26, 2011, 02:55 AM
    Unknown008
    Can you see that?

    http://p1cture.it/images/68bbf1f8c7df29e1b2e9.png
  • Oct 26, 2011, 01:33 PM
    cassi999
    u^2+ v^2-u^2=2a(ut+1/2 at^2)+u^2
    I can not use the cancel out sign.. n could not copy n paste it from word.. but when u^2 is added in both sides you basically cancels out u^2 from each side... the when you said square root it.. do you then make v2 as the subject? For e.g. v^2 = √-u^2=2a √(ut+1/2 at^2) is that right

    Thank you
  • Oct 27, 2011, 08:15 AM
    Unknown008
    Okay, now I'm confused at what you're asking for.

    For this:



    You did well with adding u^2, though it would be better to put in on the right of the terms, like this:



    It doesn't change anything, but it helps you to see what is there a little better, I think.

    This now gives:



    Take the square root on both sides, right.



  • Oct 27, 2011, 10:33 AM
    cassi999
    hi

    its x=√(2yv-z) where x=2.5 *10^-3 y=35-10^-3 and z=1.2-10^-6.

    for this question v^-u^/2a= u t 1/2 a t^

    i have added u^2 for both sides but i didn't know what to do to v^2 to make it the subject it was confusing i got 57.22 is it correct or have i done it wrong thanks
  • Oct 27, 2011, 10:48 AM
    Unknown008
    I'm getting something else. Did you see my above post when it came to v?



    This does not get me 57.22...

    Okay, I give up on trying to understand the symbol the other one. But I guess it's some square root?



    Start by squaring both sides.
  • Oct 27, 2011, 02:53 PM
    cassi999
    Yes it's a square root sign I don't know why it keeps doing that.
    I have squared rooted it and got 11.47
  • Oct 27, 2011, 04:49 PM
    cassi999
    hi
    X² = 2YV – Z
    2YV = X² + Z
    V = (X² + Z) / 2Y
    is the answer 4.11
  • Oct 27, 2011, 04:56 PM
    cassi999
    I don't know it keeps showing me these weird symbols its suppose to be

    x^2=2yv-z
    2yv=x^2+z
    v=(x^2+z/2y
    4.11

  • Oct 27, 2011, 09:36 PM
    Unknown008
    1. Yes, the answer I got is 11.47.

    2. No, I'm getting something totally different here... though you worked it out well.



  • Oct 30, 2011, 01:02 PM
    cassi999
    That would give me 0.00017 as the answer... Is that right
  • Oct 31, 2011, 12:11 AM
    Unknown008
    Hmm, I'm sorry, but this is not what I am getting, unfortunately.



    All right? A little easier like that?

  • Nov 1, 2011, 06:25 AM
    cassi999
    okay 7.45/7.0 then you subtract the powers so it becomes 10^-3... which would give you 1.0642 *10^-3 =0.001064 is that right ?
  • Nov 1, 2011, 06:57 AM
    Unknown008
    That's what I got :)
  • Nov 7, 2011, 10:13 AM
    cassi999
    hi
    can you check this for me
    4ac^2=c^2+3ab when a=4.5 and b=3.6. make c the subject

    4ac^2=c^2+3ab when a=4.5 and b=3.6
    4*4.5*c^2 = c^2 + 3*4.5*3.6
    18c^2 = c^2 + 48.6
    17c^2=48.6
    c^2 = 48.6/17

    c = +/- sqr(48.6/17) = +/-1.6908
  • Nov 7, 2011, 10:30 AM
    Unknown008
    Yea you can do it like that, but this defeats the purpose of making c the subject... :(

    Start by moving c^2 on the left side, then factor c^2.
  • Nov 7, 2011, 10:35 AM
    cassi999
    okay so
    4ac^2 = c^2+3ab
    4(4.5)c^2 = c^2 + 3(4.5)(3.6)
    18c^2 = c^2 + 48.6
    17c^2 = 48.6
    c^2 = 48.6/17
    c^2 = 2.86
    c = 1.69
  • Nov 7, 2011, 10:43 AM
    Unknown008
    No no no. You don't put in the numbers until you have c as the subject.





    Forget the values of a and b for the time being and make c the subject of formula.
  • Nov 9, 2011, 05:50 AM
    cassi999
    c^2=4ac^2+3ab is this arrangement right ?
  • Nov 9, 2011, 06:04 AM
    Unknown008
    No, you have c^2 on both sides...

    Take from the last line in my previous post. Factor out c^2 just like you would factor x here:

    ax - 2x = x(a - 2)
  • Nov 9, 2011, 02:02 PM
    cassi999
    hi
    I tried it and this is what I got. :-)

    4ac² - c² = 3ab

    => c²(4a - 1) = 3ab

    => c² = 3ab/(4a - 1)

    c = √(3ab/(4a - 1))
  • Nov 9, 2011, 02:12 PM
    cassi999
    4ac² - c² = 3ab

    => c^2(4a - 1) = 3ab

    => c^2 = 3ab/(4a - 1)

    c = squr(3ab/(4a - 1))
  • Nov 9, 2011, 02:14 PM
    cassi999
    sorry it suppose to be
    4ac^2 - c^2 = 3ab
    I don't know why it keeps showing these weird symbols
  • Nov 9, 2011, 09:18 PM
    Unknown008
    Type them manually instead of copy/pasting from Microsoft word or something, but if I understood it well, you did a good job! Replacing the values of a and b in the last equation you got, that is:



    You should get c as 1.69 :)

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