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  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:18 AM
    ebaines
    What's the first odd number?
    By "first" I mean the first alphabetically. Suppose you have a listing of all integers from one to one billion written out in english words, and the list is arranged in alphabetical order. The first entry in the list would be "eight." The second would be "eighteen." But what would be the first odd number in the list?

    There are a few rules to keep in mind as to how the entries are alphabetized:
    1. Spaces and hyphens between words are ignored. Thus "six hundred" would be listed ahead of "sixteen" which is listed ahead of "sixty-five."
    2. Numbers are written out properly in english using "hundred," "thousand," etc- thus the number 1,200 is shown as "one thousand two hundred" and not as "twelve hundred."
    3. The word "and" is not included, so the number 103 is shown as "one hundred three," not "one hundred and three."

    Have fun!
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:27 AM
    aliseaodo

    My brain is telling me it would be the number five, but then it quickly tells me that five just can't be correct, that I must be missing something...
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:28 AM
    aliseaodo

    !! The very second I posted the above, my brain said wait! What about the number eleven!
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:33 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aliseaodo View Post
    !!! What about the number eleven!?

    Not quite.. think about how anything starting with "eight," such as "eighty-five" comes before eleven. Not that 85 is the right answer - just an example of a number that comes before eleven. Keep trying!
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:36 AM
    aliseaodo

    Okay... my next attempt at genius is the number 81 (eightyone)!
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:38 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aliseaodo View Post
    okay... my next attempt at genius is the number 81 (eightyone)!

    But "eightyone" comes after "eightyfive." So that can't be it.
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:39 AM
    Wondergirl

    Eight
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:44 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    eight

    Umm... eight is not an odd number.
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:45 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebaines View Post
    Umm... eight is not an odd number.

    Yup -- just hit me.
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:45 AM
    aliseaodo

    Okay... what about eighthundredfive... final answer...
    (unless this is also wrong, then I'll try once again... )

    -edit-

    Eighthundredeightyfive? (885)?
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:47 AM
    Wondergirl

    Eighty-five?
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:49 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aliseaodo View Post
    okay...what about eighthundredfive...final answer...
    (unless this is also wrong, then I'll try once again...)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    eighty-five?

    Aliseaodo's answer is better than WG's. But still not right.

    Heres' a hint - the first part of the number starts with "eighteen."
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:56 AM
    Wondergirl

    Eighteen hundred five?
  • Jun 21, 2011, 10:59 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    eighteen hundred five?

    Read the rules that I posted with the question. 1805 would be listed as "one thousand eight hundred five," not "eighteen hundred five."
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:03 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebaines View Post
    Read the rules that I posted with the question. 1805 would be listed as "one thousand eight hundred five," not "eighteen hundred five."

    I did go back to read them, but then no number can begin with "eighteen."
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:07 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    no number can begin with "eighteen."

    Are you sure? What about "eighteen thousand five?" Not that 18,005 is the right answer (it's not), but it does begin with "eighteen."
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:08 AM
    albear
    18,000,000,005 ?
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:13 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by albear View Post
    18,888,888,885 ?

    (eighteen billion eight hundred and eighty eight million, eight hundred and eighty eight thousand eight hundred and eighty five)

    The answers are getting closer! But recall that the list only goes up to one billion.
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:16 AM
    albear
    18,000,005?
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:18 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by albear View Post
    18,000,005?

    but i would have thought 8,000,005 came before that?

    "eighteen million five" does indeed come before "eight million five." Again this answer is not quite right, but you're on the right track!
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:21 AM
    Unknown008

    I didn't even have the time to give this a thought!

    But I think I know the answer ;)

    Spoiler below:

    eighteen billion eighteen thousand eight hundred eighty five
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:26 AM
    ebaines

    Unk - so close... but not quite right! Remember you can't use the term "eighteen hundred" - that would be "one thousand eight hundred."
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:26 AM
    Unknown008

    I edited before you posted :(
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:29 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    I edited before you posted :(

    Geeting oh so close - just a little bit off. I bet you get it with your next post.
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:31 AM
    Unknown008

    Oh, okay, I think I missed one part :p

    eighteen billion eighteen million eighteen thousand eight hundred eighty five

    Forgot m :o
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:34 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Oh, okay, I think I missed one part :p

    eighteen billion eighteen million eighteen thousand eight hundred eighty five

    forgot m :o


    Just one minor detail left to fix - the list goes only from one to one billion.
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:34 AM
    aliseaodo

    Last try (for reals this time) -
    Eighteenmillion eighteen?
    (18,000,018)
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:36 AM
    Unknown008

    Ah okay, there's just the first two words to remove.

    And that's not odd aliseaodo :p
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:36 AM
    aliseaodo

    Arrrrrgh! That's not an odd number!! I really thought I had it there...
    Okay, okay last attempt (again)
    Eighteen million eleven?
    (18,000,011)
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:37 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Ah okay, there's just the first two words to remove.

    Bingo!
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:39 AM
    Wondergirl

    And?
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:39 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aliseaodo View Post
    eighteen million eleven?
    (18,000,011)

    Hint - "eighteen thousand" comes before "eleven"
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:40 AM
    Unknown008

    If you want to see the answer, highlight my last posts. There should be something appearing out of the blue! ;) (both literally and figuratively :p)

    But it's a spoiler, don't say I didn't warn you :)
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:40 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebaines View Post
    hint - "eighteen thousand" comes before "eleven"

    I thought this was strict alphabetical, not numerical. (By "first" I mean the first alphabetically.) M comes before T.
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:43 AM
    ebaines

    WG - what I meant is that "eighteen million eighteen thousand (and whatever)" comes before "eighteen million eleven."
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:44 AM
    Wondergirl

    Soooooooooo, to sum it all up, what is the correct answer spelled out?
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:53 AM
    Unknown008
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Soooooooooo, to sum it all up, what is the correct answer spelled out?

    See:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    If you want to see the answer, highlight my last posts. There should be something appearing out of the blue! ;) (both literally and figuratively :p)

    But it's a spoiler, don't say I didn't warn you :)

  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:54 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Soooooooooo, to sum it all up, what is the correct answer spelled out?

    Well OK, if you're giving up... the answer is below, but hidden using white font so as to not spoil it for others. You can see it either by high-lighting it (hold down the left mouse button and sweep over it) or by hitting "Quote User."

    Answer: eighteen million eighteen thousand eight hundred eighty five
  • Jun 21, 2011, 11:56 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebaines View Post
    Well OK, if you're giving up... the answer is below, but hidden using white font so as to not spoil it for others. You can see it either by high-lighting it (hold down the left mouse button and sweep over it) or by hitting "Quote User."

    I know how to see the "hidden" message. Even though Unky solved it, the contest is still going? Okay.

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