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  • Mar 11, 2011, 07:47 AM
    henrypoo
    my lecturer fail me the second time!
    A ship travels between two ports. The cost of fuel is C=$100(ax+b/x+10)

    Where x is the average speed of the ship in knots (x > 0) and a and b are constants. If the ship travels at 4 knots the cost of fuel is $9000 but at 6 knots it is $7000.

    a) Form two linear equations consist of a and b.
    b) Find the values of a and b.
    c) If there are two ports that are 1000 knots apart, what is the cost of the fuel.
  • Mar 11, 2011, 08:23 AM
    smoothy

    Since you failed it twice already... if someone hands you an answer you are going to fail a third time because you don't understand it.

    How do YOU go about solving it first?

    We HELP you with your homework... we don't DO it for you

    Link to the rules for homework. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/math-s...-b-u-font.html
  • Mar 11, 2011, 08:24 AM
    Unknown008



    a) Put first C = 9000, x = 4, then a second time using C = 7000 and x = 6.

    You'll get two equations.

    b) Solve those two equations simultaneously.

    c) That questions seems wrong... knots is a measure of speed and two ports cannot be separated by 'some speed'...

    I guess that you have to put x = 1000 and use the values of a and b you got earlier for that.
  • Mar 11, 2011, 08:41 AM
    henrypoo
    If I can understand the question I will not post it in here already.
  • Mar 11, 2011, 09:46 AM
    Unknown008
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by henrypoo View Post
    If i can understand the question i will not post it in here already.

    I agree, but the issue is, you should have posted what you have attempted. This is the usual procedure. Since you were new here, I didn't really impose it, but if you need more help, posting first what you have attempted would be something I'd encourage you to do.

    That said, smoothy was right and his 'thumbs down' was not deserved.

    Okay? :)
  • Mar 11, 2011, 09:49 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ;
    henrypoo does not find this helpful : at least give some guide

    Firt off. You broke the rules for homework... YOU did take the time to read that link I provided to you Before the rude reddie... didn't you?

    Then you get rude and break another rule about WHEN you are allowed to give a not helpful. Site rules Specifically say you can ONLY do that for inaccurate information. What I gave was completely accurate.

    You never attempted to even try the question... I asked you how you would try to solve it...

    Unknown gave you hints of how to start to solve it... but you want us to hand you the answer without you doing ANY work. Which means you learn nothing and WILL fail it a third time.

    If you can't try... we aren't going to do it for you. That's why you have homework... its to learn how to do something.
    Incidentally... I'm reporting this to site admins.
  • Mar 11, 2011, 09:01 PM
    henrypoo
    But how to solve the equation. Without b how to find a??
  • Mar 12, 2011, 12:02 AM
    Unknown008

    What did you get for part (a) ?
  • Mar 12, 2011, 01:28 AM
    henrypoo
    for part a is 9000=100(ax+b/x+10)

    for part b is 7000=100(a(4)+b/6+10)

    this is where I got stuck. I gt the 2 equation but for the second qns they ask me to find the value of a and b!
  • Mar 12, 2011, 01:50 AM
    henrypoo
    sorry for part a is 9000=100(a(4)+b / 4+10)

    part b is 7000=100(a(6)+b / 6+10)
  • Mar 12, 2011, 02:01 AM
    Unknown008

    Right, can you simplify it a bit? Work out the denominator, then cross multiply for both.

    Note that it's still in part (a). Part (b) is not involved yet.
  • Mar 12, 2011, 10:11 PM
    henrypoo
    9000= (400a+100b / 1400)

    I don't know how to cross multiply cause I never learn this before.
  • Mar 13, 2011, 02:14 AM
    Unknown008

    Part (a)



    Put C = 9000, and x = 4;



    What is 4+10 in the denominator on the right?
    Can you expand the numerator on the right?

    That's the first part in (a)

    Second part in (a), put C = 7000, x = 6



    So the same thing as part one.
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:01 AM
    henrypoo
    so for part a is it like that?

    9000 = 100(4a+b) / 14
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:12 AM
    Unknown008

    Yes the first part in part (a) is that. Now multiply both sides by 14, what do you get?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:25 AM
    henrypoo
    Multiply both side as in 14 times 9000,100,4a and b?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:28 AM
    Unknown008

    No, like this:

    From this:



    to this:



    Can you work this out?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:38 AM
    henrypoo
    12,600= 1400(4a+b) / 196 ?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:43 AM
    Unknown008

    Not totally true...

    What is 2 times 1/2 ?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:46 AM
    henrypoo
    1?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:51 AM
    Unknown008

    Right, now,

  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:54 AM
    henrypoo
    1400(4a+b) / 196?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 04:56 AM
    Unknown008

    Then, why did you tell me that:



    ?

    If you did what you just did to 14 up there, you'd have:



    :eek:

    So, some confusion from your part? :confused:
  • Mar 13, 2011, 05:06 AM
    henrypoo
    So it should be 1400(4a+b) / 14
  • Mar 13, 2011, 05:12 AM
    Unknown008

    Yes, now you got it.

    And what can you do now? Do you see why I chose to multiply both sides by 14? You can now reduce the fraction.

    Just like you reduce 200/2 to 100/1 to finally 100.
  • Mar 13, 2011, 05:17 AM
    henrypoo
    So its (4a+b) / 100?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 05:39 AM
    Unknown008

    Try again...

  • Mar 13, 2011, 05:42 AM
    henrypoo
    (100)(4a+b)?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 05:56 AM
    Unknown008

    Right! :)

    Now let's do another one, still to solve this problem.



    Can you divide both sides by 100? :)
  • Mar 13, 2011, 05:59 AM
    henrypoo
    126=(1)(4a+b)?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 06:10 AM
    Unknown008

    Good! Now, save this for later. The other one now.



    Can you try putting it in the form of the one you just did?
  • Mar 13, 2011, 06:12 AM
    henrypoo
    can you show me the final step for 126 = (1)(4a+b)?
    so that the other one I know how to do.
  • Mar 13, 2011, 06:14 AM
    henrypoo
    the other part is 112 = (1)(6a+b)
  • Mar 13, 2011, 07:02 AM
    Unknown008
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by henrypoo View Post
    the other part is 112 = (1)(6a+b)

    Geesh, it's only now that I notice that you made a wrong calculation earlier, 9000*14 = 126,000, not 12,600.

    Not quite. I get:

    1120 = 6a + b

    (after distributing 1 into the brackets)

    Okay, now we have:

    1260 = 4a + b
    1120 = 6a + b

    We can get a and b from there. Subtract both equations:

    Code:

    1260 = 4a + 1b
    1120 = 6a + 1b -
        =  a +  b

  • Mar 13, 2011, 07:04 AM
    henrypoo
    sorry sorry. To sum up the other question. I have done the 2 equation.

    0= 4a+b -126
    0= 6a+b - 112

    from the above I can find a and b using stimultaneuos equation?

  • Mar 13, 2011, 07:12 AM
    Unknown008

    Right, a correction is to be made through, it's 1260 and 1120 and one last thing, you posted in the wrong thread :p

    Ok, I'm moving those posts.

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