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  • Jan 2, 2007, 05:44 AM
    Fianchetto
    Maybe the titans would have been better for the question, since they created the universe in the Greek mythos.


    I didn't want to create the universe, only modify it to suit my needs, so I hired Zeus. Besides, he came cheap - all I had to do was to find my way out of the labyrinth and correctly answer a couple of riddles.
  • Jan 2, 2007, 05:50 AM
    Capuchin
    I just mean that the Greek gods were never all that powerful - they each seemed rather limited in ability.

    How about Hephaestus? He could have smithed up that ring for you ;)
  • Jan 2, 2007, 05:53 AM
    Curlyben
    Hey why the Greek bias why not Roman or Norse!
    I take offence to the premiss of the Greek Gods being all mighty ;)

    I'd pick a Norse God over any of the Greeks any day.
    Hey no nampy pampy Toga wearing for these guys.
    Full on dead animals and horned helmets all the way.
  • Jan 2, 2007, 05:56 AM
    Capuchin
    Well, for a start the Roman ones were pretty much the same people.
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:02 AM
    Fianchetto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curlyben
    Hey why the Greek bias why not Roman or Norse!!
    I take offence to the premiss of the Greek Gods being all mighty ;)

    I'd pick a Norse God over any of the Greeks any day.
    Hey no nampy pampy Toga wearing for these guys.
    Full on dead animals and horned helmets all the way.


    OK, Ben, just for you, Next time it's Thor! :D
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:04 AM
    Capuchin
    I have to disagree, I prefer the raunchy adultery of the Greeks :p
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:06 AM
    Curlyben
    Hey Cap, what ever rocks your boat.
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:10 AM
    Capuchin
    ;)
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:10 AM
    Fianchetto
    So much for avoiding the <ancient> religious debate.:)
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:13 AM
    Capuchin
    I can understand a bit of ancient greek and latin too, none of that norse rubbish for me.
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:18 AM
    Curlyben
    Come on the Norse god knew just how to PARTYYYYY.
    Hollowed out skulls of their enemies filled with beer and large amounts of roasted animals to chow on.
    None of the poncy grapes and lutes and whine for these boys ;)
  • Jan 2, 2007, 06:28 AM
    Capuchin
    Lutes are awesome.
  • Jan 6, 2007, 08:00 AM
    Fianchetto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fianchetto
    I, the somewhat mighty and moderately powerful Zeus decided to improve on that Other Guy's work by making the globe of the Earth a perfect sphere. I then hired a sub-contractor named Moses to part the resultant global ocean at the equator to form two great seas, leaving dry land between. I saw then an image of Saturn from the Cassini probe and thought it would be jolly nice to have a band about the Earth. So, I put a band of silver upon the surface of the Earth, at the equator, Moses having given me plenty of room to work. I saw the pics of Saturn again and realised that its rings were of larger diameter than the planet. So, I increased the length of my band by 3 inches. Now the band hovers above the surface of the planet by some amount. I wish to measure its altitude - but which instrument would best suit my needs?

    a> an interferometer
    b> a micrometer
    c> a ruler
    d> an altimeter

    :confused: :confused: :confused:

    OK, I, the somewhat mighty and moderately powerful Zeus have decided to torture no longer you poor mortals that are ashamed to post a (probably incorrect) solution here to give you all a break.
    It's like this:



    The initial case:

    C1=2*PI*r1

    The "expanded" case:

    C1+3=2*PI*r2

    solving for r1 & r2 we have

    r2=(C1+3)/(2*PI) r1=(C1)/(2*PI)

    r2-r1=

    [(C1+3)-(C1)]/(2*PI)

    =3/(2*PI)=3/6.28= ~.48" ergo a ruler would work fine


    And because the original circumference is always subtracted from itself (=0) it is arbitrary whether the initial band is a million inches, a thousand inches, ten inches, .1 inches, -10 inches - for a given growth in the curcumference, it will always produce the same change in radius no matter what the starting circumference.

    The Chair recognizes Thor to come forth when ready for the next "Just for fun" mathematical conundrum.

    Message delivered by,
    Fianchetto
  • Jan 6, 2007, 08:01 AM
    Capuchin
    Great work Zeus, you show me a -10 inch band and I'll admit you're the king of the gods.

    Since I got it right, does that mean I'm not mortal or what? :P

    It was good fun though, looking forward to Thor's contribution.
  • Jan 6, 2007, 08:18 AM
    Fianchetto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Capuchin
    Great work Zeus, you show me a -10 inch band and i'll admit you're the king of the gods.

    Since I got it right, does that mean i'm not mortal or what? :P

    It was good fun though, looking forward to Thor's contribution.


    >> Make me a Klein bottle, fill it with wine, and I'll pour the contents through your -10" band. And we can drink a toast to mathematics or pizza or Italian women or something.:)

    >> You didn't show your work, so I'll confer upon you all the rights and privileges of Demi-god Status in good standing. :)

    >> Shouldm't be to hard to find a problem that he can't solve, it's you guys I'm worried about!:)


    It HAS been quite fun - Thanks for the good-natured banter - I can't give you two reps in a row :(

    Thanks,
    Fianchetto
  • Jan 6, 2007, 08:35 AM
    Capuchin
    Hehehe,

    Well, I posted all the working I needed to do, as I know that the converting to circumference and back is useless. ;)
  • Jan 6, 2007, 09:02 AM
    Fianchetto
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Capuchin
    hehehe,

    Well, I posted all the working I needed to do, as I know that the converting to circumference and back is useless. ;)

    Yes - for YOU, but what about the kid in the back of the class, whose primary concerns are getting enough dope and alcohol to last the weekend and still having enough left over to get the next tattoo. You might just get through to him and turn him into the next Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.:)

    Fianchetto

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