Info sources for hikuta or kuta
I am told that AL is one of only four students of Dok Lee who completed the training (as far as Dok Lee would teach anyone). And AL has also stated that he assisted Dok lee with giving seminars. I think that is spelled ABIDIN.
So he should teach very similar to what Dok Lee taught.
As far as I know his material is worthwhile, and should help you.
I still haven't reviewed AL ABIDIN's material so I do not know to compare.
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Here are four web sites:
The first web site is some of the latter products Dok Lee made.
The second is by AL ABIDIN.
The third is by a student of AL ABIDIN
I do not know the origin of the person responsible for the fourth web site.
http://www.childrens-safety.com/aboutdok1.htm
http://www.cutting-edge-combat.com/...instructor.html
http://www.hikuta.net/hikuta/hikuta_history.cfm
http://www.crossover-kuta.com/founder.html
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There is another book by Dok Lee on sale again at eBay.
Go to ebay.com and enter hikuta in the search box.
(I do not know of anyplace else you can get this out of print book including the web sites I listed above!)
As I have said my teacher used the same names for the same techniques as Dok Lee does in videos.
Kuta and hikuta (first half of answer - post was too long)
You review my posts, even just in this thread you will see that I did not train your relative in kuta. I am not sure where they claimed to learn. Perhaps you could ask where they claimed to learn, because I have made no video, no audio, no book that teaches kuta. The last person I trained was about 20 (then) year old girl (about 20 years ago). So I could not be responsible for any 15 years old person attitude or training of hikuta.
The children safety videos do not teach that children hit anyone!
See http://www.childrens-safety.com/aboutdok1.htm
They only teach how to get/run away from danger!
Perhaps your nephew was not doing what he has been taught?
I do not know whose product he was learning from? But since I sell no product myself, I cannot be to blame. Review this entire thread: I also explained that hikuta is only to used when your life is in danger, and you have a legal right to defend yourself or others, never to attack someone because you are being mean or you want to go to jail or prison!
I am sorry you have never heard of bruce lee, or other great martial artists who have, and can (if still alive) actually do quite well against multiple people at once. That you doubt anyone can overcome multiple people at once shows that you do not know anything about martial arts! When you first heard that martial artists could break a brick did you doubt? What level of ability of fighting do you disbelieve? Because you cannot walk and chew gum at the same time doesn't mean that others cannot, and likewise people can use more than just one fist at the same time (or fist with foot/etc combination) to hit more than one person at the same time.
Once again, you fail to believe that anything not within your own experience is true. If you do not have a college degree that involves physics why would you believe electricity exists, by your logic, because you don't completely understand everything about it, so it must not exist. Is that what you think? Electricity does not exist because you don't understand it? Reality is not about what you think of it. Reality is about what it thinks of you! You can step to the ledge of a top of a tall building and not believe gravity exists, but gravity might well have something to say to you if you step off! So do not do it! Do not tempt gravity! Electricity exists, you may be able to use it to make toast, or cook food, or turn on the automobile without fully understanding it. You doubt my abilities, and the other truths I have told. Fine, but that does not and cannot change that all these events really happened.
Webster's defines a fact as an event that actually happened! Your opinion of me is just that, what you think about something, and it can only limit you, because if you do not think electricity works, you would never have the local electric company turn on your power to your house. You could not use electricity to heat/cool your home, because if you logically think it does not exist you would never order or pay for it. That you limit your knowledge of martial arts to not knowing kuta exists is your choice. Believe whatever you want, this is america (where I am), and you are free to be as silly in your philosophy or religion or way of life as you want, and no one can say that it is wrong, as long as you do not endanger the public or yourself, then they would ask you to go in front of a judge to determine if there is a possibility that you should be evaluated for being a danger to yourself and others (mental illness). Has your cousin been before a judge to determine if he is a danger to himself and/or others since he attacks people without a reason? Perhaps he has a condition that needs to be checked out, let's get him some help, if a judge determines that he has a need for it.
That you think I am a moron, for reasons I have already mentioned shows that you do not understand there may be things you have not personally seen, there may exist things outside your knowledge. Perhaps you should consider recent inventions, as a wake up call. You see I did not advocate violence to your nephew. I inform people that they should be able to learn how to defend themselves, if they are motivated enough to desire that outcome, and can acquire the resources and materials to get experience in doing self defence.
Kuta and hikuta (split answer into two posts, so it would fit)
By calling me out, you show that people of low economic status (poverty) consider that violence is the answer to their problems (see : "a framework for understanding poverty" by ruby payne, Ph.D. http://www.ahaprocess.com).
I do not fight for money, I have enough people trying to kill me without me looking for fights! When I have had to fight, it is for real, it is not timed, it is not a sporting event, I have had to win or die, and since I am still here for you to insult, I must have won. You choose to show me no respect, and no one can ever force anyone to do anything, so I will not attempt to waste time convincing you that I am telling the truth. I don't fight for fun either. I have defeated several people who have won on ufc, I told you that last post. So whoever you are, people you already know should know me, but will they tell you? Will they admit it? Will the people in the martial arts hall of fame I have defeated admit it to you? I doubt it. They have reputations to uphold. They have a vested interest in looking unbeatable. They have schools, and students, and rent payments on martial arts buildings, while I have none of that. So I would not ask them to verify me. I indeed would not want anyone to jump through hoops to verify my abilities, or praise me. I refused the rank that people have tried, and continue to try to give me, no matter how high the rank. I do not do martial arts for fame, I have enough fame from other things, for me, I feel that I should not teach martial arts, because I do not believe that any amount money is enough to teach those who should not know martial arts, and no amount of money is small enough to keep me from teaching those who should learn martial arts because of a (in my humble opinion) dire need.
I happen to be a honorable man, not because what others think of me matters to me, because it does not, but because the only way to conduct yourself is properly. I do not have delusions, nor illusions of how combat able I am, because I have been in a lot of combat (somehow I am still here). Perhaps you want to consider it a miracle that I am still alive, fine. Perhaps it is. I certainly give God all the praise that I am still here, because I do not think my survival is all about me.
If you are the gentleman I emailed about hikuta privately then you already know that I have no personal knowledge of the persons who have hikuta web sites (as I again mentioned last post). What you fail to understand, is also what I mentioned last post, that people doing all those styles you mentioned on your web site (if you are whom I think you are) are doing kuta (they and you just do not understand that the techniques from all those different martial arts that look similar, ARE the same technique). They are trying to do kuta, they may not know that is what they are doing, but it is. So do you doubt anyone in all those different styles of martial arts can fight? Kung fu? TQD? Et cetera. There exist over 11 major styles that are directly trying to kuta, and some of them do not know it. Certainly most would never admit it.
I do not keep track of who is in what sporting event or fighting contest since I do not ever participate is such sillyness. So if you are a martial artist with world renown, I apologize for my harsh words about your belief structure as it relates to belief in martial arts. If you are the person who I privately emailed I apologize for my harsh words about your lack of understanding of martial arts in general for I believe, that if you actually got exposure to proper teacher in kuta you would see that it is useful, and exactly the same as many techniques that you already are aware exist (or the other techniques from other styles SHOULD be as effective as kuta, if they do it correct, as a kuta technique). And I also enjoy that you have tried to understand kuta, even though you only have seen a couple videos from a person who did not even train with Dok Lee (to my knowledge), but they learned from a student of Dok Lee's and that student did not even start learning hikuta until the early 90s. And then some time later the student of the student of Dok Lee learned hikuta whose tapes you bought, so the instuctor you are unhappy with has what? Less than 10 years in hikuta. Certainly new instructors like that do not always do the best job of teaching technique. I have offered to review all the hikuta information by those two hikuta instructors (for years) and none of them have chosen to allow me to (without me charging them a dime) make sure they are teaching the proper techniques, so I cannot vouch for what they have taught.
I wish your nephew well. And I am sure that given enough time, you perhaps may see that hikuta (highlights of kuta) can be something that has validity. I am sorry that you feel fighting is the only way to prove validity of a martial art, and my teacher, and his teacher both would agree with you, that "the proof is in the fighting", but I really do have to fight for my life often enough that I am not willing to fight for any other reason. I hope that although I am sure you will consider me a coward, and you will think I am afraid, you will consider that appearances can be deceptive. Certainly I would not want to hurt anyone (obviously could only occur by accident, since I would not mean to harm someone I was sparring with) whose only purpose was to validate a martial art. I also wish you well, in your understanding, and knowledge of martial arts. I do not mean to sound like I have all the answers because I am sure I do not. Dok Lee often said (I am told), "Every martial art has a place". So mutual respect to those who feel differently than yourself, is reasonable. Furthermore if hikuta is as you think it is, a useless utter devoid of worth excuse for a martial art that a old fat man made up within the last half century, then you should be glad, and let people who you consider "not your friends" to believe in it, since they would be the fools who try to use it, and find it does not work. You should be overjoyed that people you do not like believe in a stinking pile of.. well you get the point. But what if your wrong? Who knows. Who cares. Life goes on. Be well. Be safe. There is that nagging doubt though, what if eawoodall is right? I suppose it could happen theoretically I guess. Or not. Whatever.
Grasshopper you should never allow your anger to cloud your mind. You may get an adrenal rush, but you will stop using fine motor control, oh wait that is all right you saw some tapes on hikuta, so you know how to use gross motor skills even when you are angry, so you can still fight, no wait the entire point you were trying to make was to show hikuta does not work, hummm? Do you know a martial art that specifically, other than kuta, causes an advantage when you cannot use fine motor skills, do you know a martial art at the advanced levels that does not try to get you under stress to hit a specific tiny point in the name of pressure points. Do you know that studies show in combat people lose that ability to hit a specific point, because the fine motor skill is gone, poof. Hummm. Of course if you use any of the martial arts that are trying to do kuta, then they do have skills that specifically allow you to fight while in an adrenal rush. But they would never tell you that, would they?
another post i had to split (2nd part) on kuta or hikuta
(bored with the whole pretending to be humble thing I did in first half of post).
I think that is about as humble as I can be, and still stomach it. But I have had a lot of practice acting (remember acting helpless is an advantage because of the surprise it gives you over your opponent when you spring into action, because they may have lowered their guard by then);
1. pretending I am nothing, and
2. pretending I do not get to do whatever I want whenever I want.
so perhaps you will believe my apology and humility, and if not, "oh well", bring it on. Try to kill me like the rest. See if I care. You will do whatever it is you want you excuse for a caring human being so if the only thing you can think to do to someone in a martial art you personally cannot understand is combat, COME AND LOSE IN MY PRESENCE. IF YOU WILL NOT RESPECT YOUR ELDERS, YOU BETTER FEAR YOUR BETTERS!
whenever a coward such as yourself is ready.
the last post and up to here was my reply to just your first two paragraphs.
what you do not understand is those who call people out are the ones who are cowards. The people who are not cowardly seek to not harm you. I do not want you hurt at all. Because thinking that you have a chance against me is real insanity. I have told you the truth in my stories, and after hearing them you think you can do anything shows you need a mental health check up. Many people who have "seen" me in action start believing in comic books, and other views that they previously did not consider as being in the realm of possibility. I would not mind knocking you out, but I do not want to harm you. Tough dichotomy. What to do, what to do.
of course even if I meet you, and beat you, would you tell anyone? Really? Because I still would not want you to tell anyone. I do not need you to jump through hoops to show anyone that I can do anything. I would not want any 'proof' to show that I have these abilities, or can fight. I really enjoy the fact that people doubt me, surprise is great. It is a wonderful thing in a fight.
when people wake up, and go "what happened?", and I can say, 'i hit you with my fist, and they say, "i didn't see your fist move". Bozo is a trademarked designation of larry harmon productions, and a well respected clown, so do not drag down his name because you do not like me. You would not want them to sue you. Ha ha. That was a joke. Sorry. Interesting I have never heard of don frye, does he have a web site? How long has he claimed to be a person who knows hikuta?
okay you want to know. Fine.
where to start.
life is not what it appears to be.
life is not about what most people think. It is complex and wonderful (sounds like I am giving a birds and bees lecture doesn't it). Sorry. Train of thought.
we choose who we believe, and who we don't. We decide what is worth keeping and what is not. We choose who to trust, and who we should be careful around. (always protect yourselves children do not do something today that you have to live with tomorrow - like luggage).
example: that nice gentleman who said he tried to learn karate out a book, and hurt both his hands (dr bill, I guess). So please seek reasonable persons to instruct you in any martial art. Sometimes people do not have creditials, though. I know a martial artist who recently hurt his knee (shifted), and took about a month off, just after getting his supreme master belt (around 8th black belt in a particular series of japanese styles), well they took and demoted him all the way back to 1 or 2nd black belt for being unable to practice for a month. That is so wrong, he did not forget anything, he did not bring shame or dishonor to the styles he knows. And they took away 6 or 7 stripes off his black belt because he was hurt. He is going to japan to study aikido in a few months, maybe they are stripping him of rank for a different reason. I hope so.
because I feel he should consider opening his own school, under his old rank. He can still study other styles of japanese martial arts, those he already knows have wronged him, and he should not honor them with his presence. They do not have a right to without a reason claim he is nothing. They have a responsibility to the martial arts community to show his real earned rank! He is just barely a black belt now, and so has to fight his way through all the lowly belts at tournments now. I have never even shown him hikuta, so he cannot be punished for any association with me. Oh well.
sir I do not allow, as much as I have any say over it, anyone to video tape me, take any likeness of my image, or otherwise record my voice,etc. under the privacy act I try to remain unknown. Not that that happens around here anyway. Not that any government does not do anything they want at anytime, so I am aware of several archival footages of myself in action at various times, and certainly to assist people in projects that I have done, such footage, audio is necessary, but under various regulations, laws, etc is considered for under some governmental classification or business designation as being not public information or restricted through security clearance of some level. Disclaimer (is the paragraph that follows):
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and then I have business agreements that require that my involvement remains unknown in "work" I have done relating to the scientific, entertainment,and training community, as well as my emergency assistance when required for various levels of government functions. In short I cannot talk about, nor am I allowed to prove how/when/where/why/etc I have/can or will assist those in need to preserve freedom. I wonder if I can shorten that speech somehow? Of well. Back to answering your questions.
I agree liars can be a pain. But I think if you look it up in the bible you will find it says, let God be true and every man a liar. Romans 3:4
don't worry about it,people do tend to gravitate toward me and my big mouth.
no what I have said can cause no one any harm. I said do not use hikuta for violence, do not attack people. Only defend yourself as best you can. All martial arts have a place. So in review people should learn every martial art to have the right tool for the right job, and be respectful, and nice to others.
that you think that because someone knows something that you do not that they are incorrect in their pivotal value or life view, shows you have a lack of respect toward others. Sometimes people call that a bigot, but I won't, you are just not well informed. Just try to understand you do not have to be right.
I do not know if I am right, I just presume, and go on. Everyone does.
fighting does not stop fools from prating on, it just slows them down with a sore jaw. You need biology lesson I am not mouse, I am human. Well a lot of people claim I am human, at least until they see me in action. Cha ching! Wow zap zowie! Sorry I am having fun with this. I shouldn't. I should be serious, but you give such straight lines to play off. Don't worry kiddos, eawoodall as far as he knows, or you know is fine and will continue on earth for as long as the good Lord keeps me here. Amen.
well fraud might be a strong word. Let's see, I told you the truth, that I thought you might be able to handle, because I did not want to tell you the unbelievable parts of my life, that would freak you out, honestly. But you can think what you want, this is america. Does not sound like fraud to tell people the truth but maybe you define fraud differently that I do, or perhaps you still hope that I am lying to you. Is that the problem? Do you seek your nephews love and admiration so much that you think you must compete with me? Oh.
get your nephew to give you a hug, big guy. You deserve it. You are just trying to keep him out of trouble, and help him on his way. How nice. I can not nor would I want to fault you for helping your family, and supporting his life choices about what martial art to study, and how to defend himself. But do try to break him of that attacking people on sight, that is just wrong. Maybe he could make you a thank you card out of paper, like they often do in art class at school. Or he could write you a poem about his "favorite uncle".
you could post it on the fridge. Or give you one of his class pictures to carry in your wallet. (there are a lot of ways kids for you to express your love to your family and we all need to remember to do that, so take time and thank them for doing all the wonderful things they do to keep/help you and be safe).
just another annoucement to help keep america friendly. Be well. Be safe all.
Great adventures and other stories of hikuta and kuta
As a person who has worked with the mentally ill on different jobs, I understand your concern because my life experiences are not your life experiences.
I have seen doctors so ignorant that they did not know hovercrafts were not science fiction, and so put a person in a mental hospital because they (had worked on them in the navy, and) wanted to build one when they got home.
So your unbelief is expected. Do not presume.
But what you believe does not change what is true. Think about it.
It is not that any of you are mentally ill because you do not believe me, it is that you have not proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am telling you the truth. If you believed me, then it would be mentally ill to want to fight me.
Since you do not believe my words, it is healthy to not continue to bring up or dredge stories that go beyond mortal belief, indeed the legends of old are often nothing more than men who did such heroic things that they are hard to believe. And if someone were mentally ill it is better to not beat upon them.
Perhaps you see that I can tell a good story though? Humm? Maybe I was telling the truth about movies.tv shows, songs? Or maybe it all is true. Be safe