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  • Jul 10, 2008, 07:29 AM
    Carmen Jones
    Married and Having An Affair with Older Married Man
    It's over.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 07:33 AM
    N0help4u
    So you do not want an affair for love
    You want a sugar daddy that you feel should pay?

    My take on this is he wants the first scenario and
    You feel the other
    You press the issue and he could just go looking for a professional hooker.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 07:41 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    So you do not want an affair for love
    you want a sugar daddy that you feel should pay?

    My take on this is he wants the first scenario and
    you feel the other
    you press the issue and he could just go looking for a professional hooker.



    I'm not sure where the distinction between having an affair and asking for money/being a hooker is - I think maybe if "financial issues" cause a person to have an affair and ask to be paid for the pleasure of your company you're walking toward that line.

    Don't the majority of married men having affairs claim the sex is bad at home - or non existent - ?
  • Jul 10, 2008, 07:49 AM
    N0help4u
    Where ever the line of distinction is
    He is the owner of the wallet in his pocket.
    No obligation to giving her a dime.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 07:50 AM
    NowWhat
    The commitment, the responsibility falls on your husband. That is who you said vows to. Not this other person. He has no financial responsibilities to you. To expect money for services rendered, well, you stop being a lover and start being a prostitute.

    If you need money that badly, get a second job. You are wrecking your entire life because of a dollar. One day you will look back and realize that it was not worth it.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 11:07 AM
    Carmen Jones
    If I were a single woman, perhaps the answers would be different. Married men are usually expected to "pay to play"... nothing is free. I'm not a hooker, but at the end of the day, I want something to show for the intimacy I provide. If I am still in the same situation financially afterwards, is it really worth my time ? Why should he be the only one benefiting from the affair ? Let's keep in mind why I even decided to do this. I like the nice places he takes me and the attention he gives to me, but I want more. He's getting what he wants... why can't I ?
  • Jul 10, 2008, 11:10 AM
    N0help4u
    Yeah if you are in it for the money and he keeps his money in his pocket then it is not worth it.
    If you don't get the satisfaction from the intimacy and he don't pay then you are with the wrong business/affair.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 11:44 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Carmen Jones
    If I were a single woman, perhaps the answers would be different. Married men are usually expected to "pay to play"...nothing is free. I'm not a hooker, but at the end of the day, I want something to show for the intimacy I provide. If I am still in the same situation financially afterwards, is it really worth my time ? Why should he be the only one benefiting from the affair ? Let's keep in mind why I even decided to do this. I like the nice places he takes me and the attention he gives to me, but I want more. He's getting what he wants...why can't I ?



    Well, starting with sex for money is illegal and working backwards - only you know if it's worth your time to have sex with this guy without being paid for it.

    I also think cheaters cheat so I trust you are getting tested regularly for sexually transmitted diseases and he is, also - people are dying out there. I would also be prepared for the wife - he may not be as dumb as rocks - to catch on, catch him, catch you and name you in Court. On the other hand, she may know and be very happy someone else is servicing him.

    So tell him you want to get paid; that he is getting sex and you think you should get something. It's as simple as that. At the moment for purposes of negotiation - and I'm in and out of Court, do some pretrial interviews - oral woman to man is $20; intercourse is in the area of $40; anal is closer to $50. You don't have a pimp so you have more room to negotiate.

    Now if you're going to work off the streets, have the looks, education, clothes and bearing to be high class call girl and out of the hooker/street walker category the prices are much, much higher. So ask him what sex with you is worth on the open market.

    And, presto, your problem is solved -
  • Jul 10, 2008, 11:45 AM
    AandZ4ever
    Get your life together and stop breaking hearts. Everybody will eventually find out and you will be alone. You messed up and for what? Temptation? A few fun scandalous nights with a married man. Married men don't usually leave their wives. So u messed up.put an end to it before he puts an end to you.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 12:51 PM
    JudyKayTee
    [QUOTE=Comments on this post: N0help4u agrees: one problem being if he doesn't pay up she can't sue :-[/QUOTE]


    Likewise if he agrees, pays up front and isn't satisfied, he would have an action against her. Food for thought!

    I guarantee if word got out the Courtroom would be packed! And I'd be in the front row.

    I wonder if this would be retroactive? I wonder how much my husband owes me?
  • Jul 10, 2008, 02:30 PM
    NowWhat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Carmen Jones
    If I were a single woman, perhaps the answers would be different. Married men are usually expected to "pay to play"...nothing is free. I'm not a hooker, but at the end of the day, I want something to show for the intimacy I provide. If I am still in the same situation financially afterwards, is it really worth my time ? Why should he be the only one benefiting from the affair ? Let's keep in mind why I even decided to do this. I like the nice places he takes me and the attention he gives to me, but I want more. He's getting what he wants...why can't I ?


    If you were single - sure the answers would be different. They might not be as pleasant.

    You are married, he's married and you both have innocent spouses at home. Thinking their life is wonderful. Have you given any thought at all of what you are doing to your husband? Are you ready to lose him at any moment? Is it worth it?

    Selfish is the word that keeps coming to mind.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 05:02 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Sexually, he expects certain things from me that his wife should be doing. I think this is a fair argument. I need advice.
    If your going to be a ho, you should get paid. Charge by the hour, not the mile though. Don't forget your husband gets half, that's fair.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 05:06 PM
    N0help4u
    I think he should charge for being her gigolo

    After all that's fair.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 06:04 PM
    ordinaryguy
    I have trouble even believing this post is legit and not a troll. Nevertheless, Carmen Jones, on the outside chance that you really are as crass as you seem, I offer this bit of advice: If you want to get paid for providing sex, you have to learn the business. Freelance amateurs seldom last long enough to make a living at it.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 06:42 PM
    excon
    Hello Carman:

    I think selling sex for money is just fine. I think calling it something else is lying. I'd rather be an honest hooker than any kind of liar.

    excon
  • Jul 10, 2008, 07:02 PM
    Angelmouse227
    Oh My GOD!!

    Honey, I'm really sorry to tell you this, but have you ever heard the old saying "why buy the cow when you get the milk for free"? Well, you're the cow. Sex is the milk, and he's been sucking at the teats long enough that if you try to start charging he may just go back out to pasture.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 07:02 PM
    JoeCanada76
    This is a farce. I can not believe what I am reading. Your so full of sh--. I can smell it from my computer. You have a loving husband and your excuse for having an affair is because you want financial support that your not getting. Even if you were single the answers would be no different. Your demanding money for services you're a hooker. Plain and simple.

    Do yourself and your husband a favour if this is actually a legit question. Get a divorce now. End the marriage and go on your marry way.
  • Jul 10, 2008, 08:20 PM
    Alty
    Cut ties with hubby, as a hooker you can make much more money without him holding you down.

    Just when I thought I'd heard it all, along comes a troll that spins this yarn. Jeesh, get a life! :(
  • Jul 10, 2008, 08:55 PM
    JBeaucaire
    Yes... but how is the SEX!!

    (sorry, I got that stuck in my head from a previous thread and now I want to ask it everywhere)
  • Jul 10, 2008, 09:01 PM
    Alty
    The sex is good, the cash is better! :):)
  • Jul 10, 2008, 09:01 PM
    N0help4u
    Or maybe the sex wasn't worth the pay off!?
  • Jul 10, 2008, 09:10 PM
    Alty
    Obviously it isn't, she's not getting paid for her services, time to find another John. ;)
  • Jul 10, 2008, 09:21 PM
    friend4u178
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  • Jul 10, 2008, 09:29 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Carmen Jones
    It's over.

    Don't like what you heard, sometimes the truth hurts. It's time to get your life in order, stop screwing around, stop hooking, work on yourself, and your marriage, be a better person. We all make mistakes, but it isn't worth it if you don't learn something. It's time to learn.

    You provided the info, we based our answers on that. Time to look in the mirror and realize that what you are doing is wrong, on many different levels.

    Good luck.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 06:41 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    or maybe the sex wasn't worth the pay off!???



    Or maybe when presented with the chart listing the various prices he decided he could do better elsewhere. Gee, imagine being in the throes of an affair, suggesting that he start paying and having him walk away - that could damage a person's ego.

    I've looked into enough of these relationships to know that in a certain percent of them if HE broke it off she will now be looking at ways to get even, get revenge, teach him a lesson - harass him, embarrass him, contact his wife, contact his wife anonymously, call his friends, contact his family, particularly if her husband has noticed she's been coming home with someone else's fingerprints on her, has been biding his time and confronts her. Then she becomes the innocent party and he's the big, bad older man who took advantage -

    Lots of times the wife who gets the letter out of the blue doesn't ask the husband - she just hires someone to check things out.

    So keep watching the boards for Part 2.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:03 PM
    Carmen Jones
    Thanks for your feedback. I didn't expect such harshness, but like you all said... the truth really does hurt. Good to know I have a bunch of "experts" such as yourselves taking the time to judge me when your lives are probably just as "perfect". In fact, this is the first an only time I've ever attempted to post anything. Many of you have made this site your home instead of the pathetic little lives you should be living. So keep judging harshly and throwing those stones while looking out of those glass houses. A stone will be thrown your way soon enough. Smooches... Einsteins.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:04 PM
    Carmen Jones
    And for the record, the sex was extremely great. Never had any complaints on his part. My life is fine, work on getting yours together.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:07 PM
    NowWhat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Carmen Jones
    Thanks for your feedback. I didn't expect such harshness, but like you all said...the truth really does hurt. Good to know I have a bunch of "experts" such as yourselves taking the time to judge me when your lives are probably just as "perfect". In fact, this is the first an only time I've ever attempted to post anything. Many of you have made this site your home instead of the pathetic little lives you should be living. So keep judging harshly and throwing those stones while looking out of those glass houses. A stone will be thrown your way soon enough. Smooches...Einsteins.


    Bitter much?
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:09 PM
    Carmen Jones
    Not at all... I appreciate the feedback. Except, you all are a bunch of smartass know-it-alls without half a clue of what's really going on.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:12 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Carmen Jones
    And for the record, the sex was extremely great. Never had any complaints on his part. My life is fine, work on getting yours together.

    I love my life , and I don't need or would ever contemplate screwing around behind my partners back to fulfill it.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:13 PM
    Alty
    The truth hurts Carmen, and a ho is a ho, and that's what you are.

    Not surprised, so many people come here, ask their question, and then get mad when they aren't told what they want to hear.

    There are many good people on this site, and because we're good people, none of us can or will condone what you do. You are cheating on your husband, with a married man, for the sake of financial gains, you are a hooker. Look it up in the dictionary dear.

    And if someone throws a rock at my glass house, at least I won't have to go to my John to get the money to fix it. Think about it.

    Good luck.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:20 PM
    N0help4u
    Yeah what is really going on
    Husband being cheated on
    Wife being cheated on
    AND you are not in their bedroom to see what wife does and doesn't do for him so he can claim anything he wants.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:20 PM
    Carmen Jones
    Perhaps my tone has confused you all... I'm far from angry or being a whore for that matter. You "good people" just simply amaze me at how you pass judgement so easily. I don't know you, but I bet you're far from perfect yourself. We all make mistakes... I can admit that. I think you all deliberately says foolish things in hopes of evoking emotion of out others for entertainment. And that's truly sad, which is why I withdrew the question. But, it's cool... at least I know the type of people I've been dealing with. Speaking the truth is one thing, but attempting to hurt the feelings of others seeking advice for entertainment is pure ignorance. Over and out.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:23 PM
    N0help4u
    We see a unsuspecting wife and an unsuspecting husband and know how it feels to be in their shoes even though they do not know it is not fair to them.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:23 PM
    ISneezeFunny
    Crap, I came into this thread a little late.

    ... what'd I miss?

    From what I can gather...

    Carmen's married. She's cheating on her hubby with another married man. She wants... money... of some sort?
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:24 PM
    Carmen Jones
    Well say that... not what you've been saying. You have no right to be s about this. It's not your wife or husband.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:25 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ISneezeFunny
    crap, I came into this thread a little late.

    ...what'd I miss?

    from what I can gather...

    Carmen's married. She's cheating on her hubby with another married man. She wants...money...of some sort?

    That's about it sneezy , but she wants one more thing , SYMPATHY
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:25 PM
    N0help4u
    ... and there are some extenuating circumstances to justify cheating...
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:26 PM
    JBeaucaire
    So often the person coming here looking for help is already too far gone, and we've scored another one. This little lady had nothing wrong with her that good old common sense wouldn't take care of. Us wasting time saying it out loud for her just gives her someone else to snipe at instead of looking in the mirror and declaring "you will do better with your life."

    Not going to happen, and now she can look down her nose at the people here... good thing since her "lovely" little tryst has gone so well.
  • Jul 11, 2008, 05:26 PM
    ISneezeFunny
    Carmen, tell me it ain't so.

    ... why do you want money?. why do you want sympathy?. why are you cheating?

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