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  • Apr 21, 2010, 04:23 AM
    JoeCanada76
    Dangerous .
    What to do about people who constantly give dangerous advice and advice that could very well be deadly to someone?

    Besides reporting and giving disagrees? What else can be done?
  • Apr 21, 2010, 04:24 AM
    Curlyben
    That's about it really, other than posting what would work to refute the bad advice.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 04:27 AM
    JoeCanada76

    Wow, that was a discussion ender.

    Sometimes wish there was more that we could do.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 04:59 AM
    Kitkat22
    Well I got a reddie for giving someone advice, by someone who was giving thread her bad advice. I gave him a reddie first and he then gave me one ranting and raving. Doesn't matter if I can help this woman get out of a bad relatioship before she is killed, I'd take a hundred reddies. Thanks for starting this thread:)
  • Apr 21, 2010, 05:52 AM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    Well I got a reddie for giving someone advice, by someone who was giving thread her bad advice. I gave him a reddie first and he then gave me one ranting and raving. Doesn't matter if I can help this woman get out of a bad relatioship before she is killed, I'd take a hundred reddies. Thanks for starting this thread:)

    I tried to give you a balancer Kity, but I had to spread the love. Your post there was perfect.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 05:53 AM
    slapshot_oi

    I often get yelled at for giving dangerous advice.

    Curlyben's right. I mean, this is a forum where ideas are exchanged. If we filtered out stuff that isn't deemed acceptable, nothing new would be learned.

    I wouldn't have fun or learn anything from an AMHD if it were made of slapshot_ois.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 06:03 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by slapshot_oi View Post
    I often get yelled at for giving dangerous advice.

    Curlyben's right. I mean, this is a forum where ideas are exchanged. If we filtered out stuff that isn't deemed acceptable, nothing new would be learned.

    I wouldn't have fun or learn anything from an AMHD if it were made of slapshot_ois.

    Thanks J_9... I'll take that reddie for everyone in the world who has ever suffered abuse. That made me furious! Hey Slap and Joe.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 06:07 AM
    JoeCanada76

    Hey J9, Slap, and Kat. I took a lovely reddie too. It is only my second one. I can not wait to get more.

    I still can give them right back though especially when someone's life is on the line.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 06:09 AM
    redhed35

    I agree that sometimes when advice is given its down right dangerous,but I have found it does not go un noticed.
    Someone usually jumps on it,I know I have,and have seen many other regular and new members disagreeing with dangerous advice also.

    For me I RIP it,disagree ( if I can within the rules!) or quote and give my reasons for why I disagree.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 06:12 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976 View Post
    Hey J9, Slap, and Kat. I took a lovely reddie too. It is only my second one. I can not wait to get more.

    I still can give them right back though especially when someones life is on the line.

    I just don't see how someone could tell a woman to stay in that situation. I don't care how many reddies he gives me or she.. I don't know... :rolleyes:
  • Apr 21, 2010, 06:17 AM
    JoeCanada76
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redhed35 View Post
    i agree that sometimes when advice is given its down right dangerous,but i have found it does not go un noticed.
    someone usually jumps on it,i know i have,and have seen many other regular and new members disagreeing with dangerous advice also.

    for me i RIP it,disagree ( if i can within the rules!) or quote and give my reasons for why i disagree.

    Hello your right, if it is dangerous advice that someone will jump on it. I think maybe bad advice should be jumped on more often and more severe depending on the situation.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 06:38 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976 View Post
    Hello your right, if it is dangerous advice that someone will jump on it. I think maybe bad advice should be jumped on more often and more severe depending on the situation.



    Thanks redhed... Bless you... I'm so mad at Hungchow I could spit nails.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 07:14 AM
    Homegirl 50
    I think the only thing you can to is to continue to come back with good advice and give the reddies.
    If enough of us do that, hopefully the OP will get the right message.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 07:22 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegirl 50 View Post
    I think the only thing you can to is to continue to come back with good advice and give the reddies.
    If enough of us do that, hopefully the OP will get the right message.

    I do not understand how someone could advise a person to stay in an abusive relationship. That is careless and just bad advice

    Joe I gave you a greenie and accidentally gave a greenie to devil. I'll probably get reported.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 07:27 AM
    JoeCanada76
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    Joe i gave you a greenie and accidentally gave a greenie to devil. I'll probably get reported.

    No you won't, and even you did. It will not be an issue. Do not worry about anything. Only person is important right now is the one your helping.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 07:34 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976 View Post
    No you wont, and even you did. It will not be an issue. Do not worry about anything. Only person is important right now is the one your helping.

    Read the last post I left him. I didn't know you couldn't balance if I had already given you an agree!
  • Apr 21, 2010, 07:39 AM
    JoeCanada76

    I already read it and I commented it. It is so true.
  • Apr 21, 2010, 09:09 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    Where are you guys? What thread?
  • Apr 21, 2010, 12:11 PM
    Kitkat22

    I think when people post dangerous advice it's up to the people here to address it head on.

    We can't use offensive language, but we can tell them off calmy. As long as there are facts to support our advice... then who could say we were wrong.

    Maybe even some of the moderators could kind of give us some tips.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 05:27 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976 View Post
    I already read it and I commented it. It is so true.

    Hi JP, how come it says you joined April 20l0. I thought you had been here longer then that ? Is this a mistake or you are just an old soul ?;)
  • Apr 22, 2010, 05:30 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    hi JP, how come it says you joined April 20l0. I thought you had been here longer then that ? Is this a mistake or you are just an old soul ?;)

    He's not the one you are thinking of. This is the guy: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/member...shelper76.html

    I agree, the username of the OP is misleading for us who have been here a long time.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 05:39 AM
    KBC
    HI, If you read my sigy you'll see what my responses are to those who ask, I got a reddie or 2 before, oh well, in the end,I believe in what I write, if it's wrong,I expect someone to correct me(if they can, hehe) and otherwise, it IS A FREE SITE, if we tell someone to pour gas on themselves and light a match, it's THEIR decision to do this, same as in the real world.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 05:46 AM
    NeedKarma
    Sadly KBC a lot of troubled people wind up on these sites asking for help from anonymous people - some are so easily swayed that they might take the gasoline advice.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 06:04 AM
    KBC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Sadly KBC a lot of troubled people wind up on these sites asking for help from anonymous people - some are so easily swayed that they might take the gasoline advice.

    Understandable, but who's going to say something like that anyway.

    My point being,we have no control over how others are going to take our information,we can only be responsible for OUR offer,not their interpretation or use of it.

    We can't police others advice and expect the OP(or whoever) to see our way every time.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 06:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Reddies are our only fallback I guess.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 07:33 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    The OP and Jesushelper76 are the same person, just with a fresh start :)
  • Apr 22, 2010, 07:39 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    The OP and Jesushelper76 are the same person, just with a fresh start :)

    Thanks for the heads up though I don't get the point of the "fresh start"
  • Apr 22, 2010, 07:43 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    I just smile and nod! :D
  • Apr 22, 2010, 07:50 AM
    excon

    Hello Joe:

    You should spend some time on the legal boards. If dangerous advice is given, and it IS all the time, we do NOT let the answer go unchallenged. To me, the value of that kind of discussion, is that the OP has an opportunity to see ALL sides of a question. I think that's a lot better than just hearing one or two posts that agree with each other.

    But, in the final analysis, we can't control what the OP'll take away from this site. I don't know why. I've been telling people how to save the world for YEARS, yet the world STILL needs saving.

    excon
  • Apr 22, 2010, 07:53 AM
    mudweiser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Thanks for the heads up though I don't get the point of the "fresh start"

    I think it's because some people get a little weird with their expert titles and greenies...

    It's the advice that counts whether you have 2312314 greenies or just 1.

    Either way back to Joe's original question:

    Bad or good advice people are still going to take the advice they want. If someone came on here want to kill themselves, whether you say go ahead or don't do it it'll be up to them.

    When I ask a question, I still pick an choose which one I want to hear-- hell I bet we all do it.

    Either way we're here to help... sometimes our advice sucks (even the experts), I know mine isn't always great.

    Anywhozzils that's my 2 centavos.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 09:09 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    Good point, here 100,000 virtual greenies! :)
  • Apr 22, 2010, 09:15 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976 View Post
    What to do about people who constantly give dangerous advice and advice that could very well be deadly to someone?

    Besides reporting and giving disagrees? What else can be done?

    What we can do, and what any knowledgeable member should do, is call them on their advice. Sure you get a reddie but you have saved the thread from becoming a potential disaster. That is, if you happen to come across the thread and notice what is going on.

    Tick
  • Apr 22, 2010, 09:16 AM
    tickle

    Can someone please get the horrible Facebook notification OUT OF MY FACE PLEASSSSSSSSSSSE AAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

    Tick
  • Apr 22, 2010, 09:21 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    Can someone please get the horrible facebook notification OUT OF MY FACE PLEASSSSSSSSSSSE AAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

    tick

    Use Firefox with AdBlock. :)
  • Apr 22, 2010, 09:23 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Use Firefox with AdBlock. :)

    Hah, I knew that, just testing you
  • Apr 22, 2010, 11:09 AM
    Kitkat22

    I think if a person gives bad advice ,while others give good advice.. let them show some facts
    To back up their advice.

    I don't mind getting a reddie if it's helping someone. As tick
    And Muddy said who cares about a reddie if you give accurate advice.
  • Apr 22, 2010, 11:50 AM
    mudweiser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    I think if a person gives bad advice ,while others give good advice..let them show some facts
    to back up their advice.

    I don't mind getting a reddie if it's helping someone. As tick
    and Muddy said who cares about a reddie if you give accurate advice.

    I never said that.. get your facts straight.

    Haha just kidding.

    This post was irrelevant.

    I've got a handful of reddies my first one was from KCTiger.. or was it Romefalls. I was new here. I was being bratty.. haha Now we laugh about it. Well we did a long thread ago.

    Here is a great quote:

    "When we ask for advice, we are usually looking for an accomplice."
    -Saul Bellow
  • Apr 22, 2010, 12:00 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mudweiser View Post
    I never said that.. get your facts straight.

    Haha just kidding.

    This post was irrelevant.

    I've got a handful of reddies my first one was from KCTiger..or was it Romefalls. I was new here. I was being bratty.. haha Now we laugh about it. Well we did a long thread ago.

    Here is a great quote:

    "When we ask for advice, we are usually looking for an accomplice."
    -Saul Bellow




    I got a reddie from dazed , after he asked the same advice 200 times.
    Oh well, I gave reddies when I first started here. I thought they were
    Something like and M&M or a Starburst. I asked what SFTW meant and I thought the answers were a little mean. Those people forgave me (I hope) Now when someone ask something stupid ,I want to reach through my laptop, grab them and smack them and say STFW
    Wow.. too much coffee today:eek::D
  • Apr 22, 2010, 12:07 PM
    mudweiser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    I got a reddie from dazed , after he asked the same advice 200 times.
    Oh well, I gave reddies when I first started here. I thought they were
    something like and M&M or a Starburst. I asked what SFTW meant and i thought the answers were a little mean. Those people forgave me (I hope) Now when someone ask something stupid ,I want to reach through my laptop, grab them and smack them and say STFW
    Wow..too much coffee today:eek::D

    You better not hijack the thread Kit, Joe will squeeze that kittykat neck of yours and bite it off. He's an angry old man... just don't tell him I told you that:eek:
  • Apr 22, 2010, 12:28 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mudweiser View Post
    You better not hijack the thread Kit, Joe will squeeze that kittykat neck of yours and bite it off. He's an angry old man... just don't tell him I told you that:eek:

    Okay.:eek::eek:.. Thanks! The advice we give is accurate as we perceive it.Then you have some of the newer members who c ome along and want to tell someone something totally different.

    I think the bad information is given because some people have never experienced a break up or a divorce. Or spousal abuse etc. They speak from inexperience on things they know nothing about and derail the folks who are trying to give accurate information!:)

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