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  • Aug 18, 2009, 03:36 PM
    survivorboi
    I hate it when they put sex-related scenes into what looks like a child's movie.
    I hate it so much when they put sex related scenes into a movie that is suppose to be for children and kids. I don't know why in these days, sex is such a big thing and is everywhere on the Internet.

    The other day, my sister was bored, so I told her she could watch Dragon Ball Z (she likes cartoons and I thought she might like that since I read the comics), she is 8 years old. After watching it for a while, she starts to like it. But then comes this part where the they introduces the "pervert old man" who also happens to be some of the most important characters in the comic show. He has a reputation of having a nose bleed every time he sees young woman's with big boobs. He saw this young woman and tried to touch her boobs.

    I was a little concerned when I saw her watching that part, (she appeared to have been startled as well), so I told her to turn it off...

    I got mad because I guarantee you that the comic was suppose to be for kids, with funny pictures and very childish drawings. But like I said, people these days like to just put a little sexual in stuff to make it more "mature" or something. I hate that.

    There needs to be a border, where all the adult stuff in the adult side and all the kid stuff in the kids side, no in-between. I would guess that drives parents crazy? Not sure of which TV shows is safe for children, because TV shows that looks okay at first is not so OK.

    Oh, did I mentioned the young woman also took off her bra? (She was standing with her back so we couldn't she her boobs, but still... )
  • Aug 18, 2009, 03:39 PM
    N0help4u

    And if it isn't the show itself it's the commercials... you can't win.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 03:44 PM
    asking

    I agree, survivorboi. It's absolutely everywhere. Some days, I feel like our whole culture is one big red light district.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 07:09 PM
    Just Dahlia
    I agree with you completely, but don't really know what to do about it. I don't have young kids anymore, so I guess I'm lucky.:)
  • Aug 18, 2009, 08:07 PM
    survivorboi

    And have you guys notice lately, there have been absolutely NO good family movies? There has been numerous number of horror movies coming out, 13th of Friday, bloody valentine, perfect getaway, You name it. Before there has been good movies like, um, Ice Age for example, Madagascar, etc. good family movies.

    One of the sexual related movie I could as well add for my example is Marley and Me, because it depicts PERFECT for what I'm talking about.

    It's a movie about the life of a wacky dog, who got into so much trouble for his owners (and him). Sounds pretty good right? Thinking about taking your kids to see it? Well, I thought just that, I thought maybe my sister and I could see it.

    Then guessed what? I found out the movie has like 5 sexual scenes in it! Sex, sex, sex, humping, sex, it's ridiculous! Especially the part where Marley humps that instructor was completely unnecessary. I know they want it to be funny, but cmon!
  • Aug 18, 2009, 08:15 PM
    N0help4u

    Wow I figured that was a movie for kids.
    Glad you said something.

    I quit watching TV and I'd rather rent some older kids movies like Toy Story, Little Rascals, Aladdin, Jungle Book, Lion King etc...

    I know for awhile they were making movies that made the kid look like a hero and the dad look like a dorky dufus.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 08:36 PM
    hheath541

    the thing about dragonball z is that it's not a cartoon, it's an anime. It's japanese animation that has been dubbed over and marketed in america. The mangas (what you're calling comic books) are usually made in america, or at least heavily edited. Even though dragonball z is marketed for kids in america it is still a japanese show that was originally intended for teenagers and young adults.

    I'm sure you've heard of sailor moon. A cute kids' cartoon, right? Wrong. It's another anime, and has been HEAVILY edited for viewing in america. The original version is lesbian porn. The sex scenes have been removed and much of the dialog has been changed to make it suitable for children.

    cartoons and anime are not the same thing. In america we are so used to seeing cartoons as a childrens' media that we forget that it's not always. Anime is a popular media for adults in japan. Think of it as along the same lines as south park or family guy. They're cartoons, but not ones you would want children seeing.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 08:41 PM
    N0help4u

    Very true cartoons and anime are different but there are many cartoons too that kids watch that are far from appropriate.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 09:01 PM
    simoneaugie

    Marley & Me is also so true-to-life sad at the end that My kids and I will probably never watch it again (I'll watch it alone and cry and enjoy it.) But that makes me wonder. Is it the movie that is "bad" or my expectations of what it will be like. Marley & Me is not a family movie!

    If you read reviews they can guide you to a movie choice. But keep in mind that a review is an advertisement of sorts. It isn't really what is true for you; they couldn't represent your truth anyway, the reviewer isn't you.

    Sex is a part of life. Movies use scenes of this part of life to illustrate many things. What are they attempting to show you? Sexual activity isn't bad, doesn't need to be hidden as if it does not exist. Since there are no hard and fast rules as to what someone of a certain age should or shouldn't watch, it's frequently a judgement call by parents. There are some movies rated PG that my 11-year-old is not allowed to watch. There are R movies that she can see any time.

    Sex and violence are filmed representations of the same. No one actually has sex, or dies. Once someone is able to understand that it is a representation and mature enough to ask questions about why something was filmed that way and protest if desired, he is old enough to see an R movie with a parent.

    Sure there are people 40+ years old who do not know how to formulate questions about what they see. Those people should watch G movies only maybe?
  • Aug 18, 2009, 09:15 PM
    hheath541
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    very true cartoons and anime are different but there are many cartoons too that kids watch that are far from appropriate.

    Exactly, and there are animes that are completey appropriate for children. The trouble comes when someone doesn't research what the children will be seeing and then freaks out.

    The OP freaking out telling their sister to turn off the TV is possibly the worse thing they could have done. Kids use our reactions to judge how they should react. If she hadn't freaked out then her sister might not have even registered what happened, let alone remembered it later. Because of the reaction the scene garnered she will remember it for a long time, and it may become a sort of 'forbidden fruit.'
  • Aug 18, 2009, 09:17 PM
    N0help4u

    Yeah and often kids get to the point that the freaked out forbidden is what they end up going for.
  • Aug 18, 2009, 10:23 PM
    hheath541

    Especially concerning sex at an age when they're starting to get curious about bodies. Once kids start hitting puberty, the body becomes a fascination and making topics or events forbidden just makes them all the more interesting.
  • Aug 19, 2009, 08:14 AM
    survivorboi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hheath541 View Post
    exactly, and there are animes that are completey appropriate for children. the trouble comes when someone doesn't research what the children will be seeing and then freaks out.

    the OP freaking out telling their sister to turn off the tv is possibly the worse thing they could have done. kids use our reactions to judge how they should react. if she hadn't freaked out then her sister might not have even registered what happened, let alone remembered it later. because of the reaction the scene garnered she will remember it for a long time, and it may become a sort of 'forbidden fruit.'

    Oh crap, so what should I do? My sister freaked out and was a little startled, so that was how I knew she had seen something inappropriate.
  • Aug 19, 2009, 08:15 AM
    survivorboi

    So overall, what should I do in that situation? How do I know if she's really bothered by it?
  • Aug 19, 2009, 01:20 PM
    simoneaugie

    Ideally your mom, or both parents should talk to her about what she saw. If it needs to be you, allow her to express what she felt. Don't put words and ideas into her head. Her perception of how it felt to see it was probably very different from yours.

    Once you see where she is on the subject, give her validation and feedback from your own perspective. Share with her using concepts she can grasp.
  • Aug 19, 2009, 03:12 PM
    hheath541
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by survivorboi View Post
    Oh crap, so what should I do? My sister freaked out and was a little startled, so that was how I knew she had seen something inappropriate.

    Are you sure it was the show she was reacting to, and not you or something else entirely?
  • Aug 19, 2009, 03:26 PM
    survivorboi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hheath541 View Post
    are you sure it was the show she was reacting to, and not you or something else entirely?


    She was like "Oh no, this is bad" and covered her eyes.
  • Aug 19, 2009, 04:32 PM
    Catsmine
    Your sister's reaction is HER OWN. Projecting your reactions into or onto her will only lead to conflict, even if they are the same.

    Both of you need to discuss this with your parents. As an example, I will NOT project my family's values onto yours. I am almost positive they are different, but the projection would be condescending if they were the same. Please give your sister the respect I give to you.
  • Aug 19, 2009, 05:45 PM
    survivorboi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Your sister's reaction is HER OWN. Projecting your reactions into or onto her will only lead to conflict, even if they are the same.

    Both of you need to discuss this with your parents. As an example, I will NOT project my family's values onto yours. I am almost positive they are different, but the projection would be condescending if they were the same. Please give your sister the respect I give to you.

    Huh? What respect are you talking about? I haven't really said anything to her yet, just told her to watch something else...
  • Aug 19, 2009, 06:34 PM
    hheath541

    I'm with cat. Explain what happened to your parents and then let them decide how to handle it.
  • Aug 20, 2009, 03:45 PM
    survivorboi

    All right, thanks guys, I guess adults are better at handling this than I am.
  • Aug 20, 2009, 04:34 PM
    jenniepepsi

    I think she will be fine. Especially knowing that she understood it was 'bad' had she been interested in it, that would bother me.

    Definitely talk to your parents hon.

    And I agree with you about the lower ammounts of family movies. They have come out with ice age 3 now and madagascar 2 is still fairly new if you haven't seen it yet?

    I haven't seen the 'UP' movie yet so I can't speak for that one. (the 'balloon house movie' as my daughter and her cousin call it lol)

    If worse comes to worse, watch the older disney movies. Although I have to tell you, some of those movies have inuindos in them :P just not as blatent as they are NOW you know? :P

    Give me a second and ill remmeber some of them. How old are you? (sorry if you said already and I missed it)
  • Aug 20, 2009, 04:46 PM
    jenniepepsi

    Mmm the BIGGEST one I can remember is roger rabit. :P that was FULLY intended for kids. But they added some adult content so that parents would enjoy it as well. Have you SEEN jessica rabbit!! LOL
  • Aug 20, 2009, 05:03 PM
    jenniepepsi

    OK here we go...

    OK here we go...


    In Aladdin. In the scene where Aladdin and Jasmine are to take a magic carpet ride, Aladdin calls on Jasmine to come with him, and continues to speak under his breath “teenagers take off your clothes”


    In The Lion King, when Simba, plops down and a cloud of dust and leaves, it forms the letters S-E-X, with each letter fading as the next becomes clear. Also Simba is talking to his father in the night sky where stars can be seen. Upon connecting these stars, a penis is formed


    *many people already know this one, I still have this cover today lol*
    the little mermaid has a few. A penis on the cover. The priest marrying prince eric and ursula at the end has a 'woody' (which is suppose to be his knee, but its in totally the wrong place)
    there was also something on an early poster that was supposedly too distastefull to even mention.


    and aparently there was a recal of a version of The rescuers lol. While bernard and bianca (the mice) are flying on the bird in the city, in the background in one of the city buildings, there is a topless woman in a window

    I got these from...

    http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/tcom.../gp13/gp13.pdf

    I didn't cut and paste. I did some. But some of it I just summerized.
  • Aug 20, 2009, 05:12 PM
    Catsmine
    As far as adult content goes, why does Michael Meyers with a knife and gallons of red glycerine qualify as children's faire while Jenna Jameson with a condom and cups of white cornstarch is adults only?

    I have killed, I have maimed, I have made love. Guess which I would rather my kids know how to do?
  • Aug 20, 2009, 05:28 PM
    albear
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jenniepepsi View Post
    OK here we go....

    OK here we go....


    In Aladdin. In the scene where Aladdin and Jasmine are to take a magic carpet ride, Aladdin calls on Jasmine to come with him, and continues to speak under his breath “teenagers take off your clothes”


    In The Lion King, when Simba, plops down and a cloud of dust and leaves, it forms the letters S-E-X, with each letter fading as the next becomes clear. also Simba is talking to his father in the night sky where stars can be seen. Upon connecting these stars, a penis is formed

    that sex one i think is just silly, as if, who ever sees sex in that probably has a dirty mind to bgin with


    *many people already know this one, i still have this cover today lol*
    the little mermaid has a few. a penis on the cover. the priest marrying prince eric and ursula at the end has a 'woody' (which is supose to be his knee, but its in totally the wrong place)
    there was also something on an early poster that was supposedly too distastefull to even mention.


    and aparently there was a recal of a version of The rescuers lol. while bernard and bianca (the mice) are flying on the bird in the city, in the background in one of the city buildings, there is a topless woman in a window

    i got these from...

    http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/tcom.../gp13/gp13.pdf

    i didnt cut and paste. i did some. but some of it i just summerized.

    Oh oh and the nazi hyenas in the lion king when scar is singing,be prepared :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0AiN8vrn9Y
  • Aug 20, 2009, 05:37 PM
    jenniepepsi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    As far as adult content goes, why does Michael Meyers with a knife and gallons of red glycerine qualify as children's faire while Jenna Jameson with a condom and cups of white cornstarch is adults only?

    I have killed, I have maimed, I have made love. Guess which I would rather my kids know how to do?

    Excellent point cats.


    Haha bear. I forgot about that one.
  • Aug 22, 2009, 03:51 PM
    survivorboi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jenniepepsi View Post
    OK here we go....

    OK here we go....


    In Aladdin. In the scene where Aladdin and Jasmine are to take a magic carpet ride, Aladdin calls on Jasmine to come with him, and continues to speak under his breath “teenagers take off your clothes”


    In The Lion King, when Simba, plops down and a cloud of dust and leaves, it forms the letters S-E-X, with each letter fading as the next becomes clear. also Simba is talking to his father in the night sky where stars can be seen. Upon connecting these stars, a penis is formed


    *many people already know this one, i still have this cover today lol*
    the little mermaid has a few. a penis on the cover. the priest marrying prince eric and ursula at the end has a 'woody' (which is supose to be his knee, but its in totally the wrong place)
    there was also something on an early poster that was supposedly too distastefull to even mention.


    and aparently there was a recal of a version of The rescuers lol. while bernard and bianca (the mice) are flying on the bird in the city, in the background in one of the city buildings, there is a topless woman in a window

    i got these from...

    http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/tcom.../gp13/gp13.pdf

    i didnt cut and paste. i did some. but some of it i just summerized.

    Nice examples, yeah, I can't believe Lion King has that? That movie is 110% for kids and for young kids, older kids' wouldn't even watch that. They shouldn't think that they HAVE to put something sexual in kids' movie so parents will watch it... Imagine you watching a movie with some kids and the movie suddenly goes to a part where it's completely inappropriate, haha, imagine how uncomfortable you'll feel. :D

    I'm 14.
  • Aug 22, 2009, 03:52 PM
    survivorboi

    Who's Jenna Jameson? Never heard of her.
  • Aug 22, 2009, 03:58 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by survivorboi View Post
    Who's Jenna Jameson? Never heard of her.

    An "actress" in pornographic movies
  • Aug 22, 2009, 06:44 PM
    jenniepepsi

    A porn lady who lives here in phoenix ( I think she lives here anyway. Maybe. She is here A lot thought)
  • Aug 23, 2009, 08:20 AM
    survivorboi

    Oh pornographic, that stuff is bad. I've heard of it from friends... lol
  • Aug 23, 2009, 08:42 AM
    Unknown008

    Hey survivorboi! Just found your thread. I'm shocked of all the stuff they put in cartoons intended for kids...

    It's only some years ago that I noticed those things while watching a cartoon movie, I forgot which, but that made me 'flinch' and I looked at my little sister who was watching too. Fortunately, I think she didn't notice what was happening. Now I realise that these are not only in a few cartoons, but actually in many more...

    Those producers nowadays...
  • Aug 23, 2009, 09:04 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by survivorboi View Post
    Nice examples, yeah, I can't believe Lion King has that?!

    Urban legends:

    snopes.com: Sex in The Lion King

    snopes.com: Little Mermaid Minister

    But the Rescuers one is true! snopes.com: 'The Rescuers' Topless Scene


    Personally I don't mind my kids seeing a breast versus seeing people's faces being blown off in graphic detail.
  • Aug 23, 2009, 09:30 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by survivorboi View Post
    Oh pornographic, that stuff is bad. I've heard of it from friends...lol

    Why?
  • Aug 23, 2009, 09:31 AM
    Just Dahlia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jenniepepsi View Post
    OK here we go....

    OK here we go....


    In Aladdin. In the scene where Aladdin and Jasmine are to take a magic carpet ride, Aladdin calls on Jasmine to come with him, and continues to speak under his breath “teenagers take off your clothes”


    In The Lion King, when Simba, plops down and a cloud of dust and leaves, it forms the letters S-E-X, with each letter fading as the next becomes clear. also Simba is talking to his father in the night sky where stars can be seen. Upon connecting these stars, a penis is formed


    *many people already know this one, i still have this cover today lol*
    the little mermaid has a few. a penis on the cover. the priest marrying prince eric and ursula at the end has a 'woody' (which is supose to be his knee, but its in totally the wrong place)
    there was also something on an early poster that was supposedly too distastefull to even mention.


    and aparently there was a recal of a version of The rescuers lol. while bernard and bianca (the mice) are flying on the bird in the city, in the background in one of the city buildings, there is a topless woman in a window

    i got these from...

    http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/tcom.../gp13/gp13.pdf

    i didnt cut and paste. i did some. but some of it i just summerized.

    WHat are you talking about? I have watched those movies so many times with my children and G-d children and have never seen anything like that, and I REALLY watch them, because I like them (except for the sad parts that make me cry)
    WOW, I must not have any clue:confused:
  • Aug 23, 2009, 09:33 AM
    Just Dahlia
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Why?

    I think the OP is young.
  • Aug 23, 2009, 09:36 AM
    Unknown008

    He's 14.

    Yes Dahlia, I think those are true, you can check the links that NeedKarma posted, they're there.

    These producers hide those pretty well, but evident enough for those who look at every detail.
  • Aug 23, 2009, 09:47 AM
    NeedKarma
    Actually most are not true, just the Rescuers one.
  • Aug 23, 2009, 09:53 AM
    Unknown008

    For the Little Mermaid, I saw it's not true, but for the Lion King, the dust particles do tend to form the word 'sex'. =/

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