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Sorry Stringer but I'm sitting here crying at my computer and no site is worth that.

Judy, I have to ask, what do you have to say about the topic of this thread? You haven't responded to it.

Clough, you may have noticed that I tried to get back on track today but your constant questions about how Stringer feels about his thread going off track, it got to me. I thought we had resolved it and even though the thread was getting back you couldn't stop asking Stringer how he felt about his thread being hijacked. So be it. You're a kind person and a good person, I agreed yesterday to let it go, I'm just upset that it wasn't let go. Whatever.

The fact is, I'm upset and it's not worth it. I come here to be with people I care about but once they start making me cry, I really don't see the point in sticking around. I have enough reasons to cry lately, I come here to laugh, not to be made to feel like crap.

So I'm going. I'll probably be back but right now I just can't be here.

Good luck everyone and Stringer, I truly am sorry. Love you.

I personally took that comment from Clough wrong too. I thought we all were getting along and then all of a sudden questioning about where the thread is going again.

I took it personally too because it was right after Sarah personally sharing herself on this thread, and me sharing more too.

Stringer said he wants everyone here. Stringer is the good man who started this thread and wants everyone to be involved.

I am sure you will come back. I hope strong winds dye down and everyone will come back to have a huge group hug again. WHENEVER EVERYONE is ready.

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Originally Posted by Jesushelper76

Stringer said he wants everyone here. Stringer is the good man who started this thread and wants everyone to be involved.

Bravo Joe!!

So sending out my love to Alty. Hugs and love through to you.

I think everybody needs to come together again on this thread.

You heard Stringer, all of our presence is important here. To share our thoughts and feelings and show that we all have life struggles but we all are strong with the support of our friends and loved ones.

Joe

That is a great suggestion Joe.

Wow, this is just crazy. Not sure what the heck is going on here, but it's not cool.

Alty I sure hope you come back soon. I missed you all while I was out for a few days, and when I came back it seemed everyone was fighting.

Clough, I think I have taken your comment wrong as well. Are you really offended because the thread seemed to get a bit off track?

I've seen a few threads go off on a tangent, but instead of pointing out faults, why not gentley lead your friends back on track?

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

I wish I could be that confident.

Stringer told me a long time ago to climb out on the branch and try to realize my dream of making and selling my tables and wooden projects. I know he's right, that not trying is the same as failing, but I'm still too afraid.

We're on a budget. We don't have extra money to throw around. What if I do fail? What if it costs more then we can afford? What if...what if...what if?

It would be really nice to see into the future and know whether or not I'd succeed.

Then what you do is ask for the cost of supplies up-front. Then charge for labor when they pick up the finished product. Asking for half before and half after is a VERY common process, especially in custom projects.

Make sure they sign a receipt or statement that specifies that there are NO refunds on the down payment.

If they don't like the finished product, then you get to either keep it or sell it to someone else. No money lost.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Judy, I have to ask, what do you have to say about the topic of this thread? You haven't responded to it. .

I haven't responded to it (the original question/topic) because - as you should know - I very seldom join the discussions on the forum community boards. I am only here because I asked that this particular thread be moved from a "topic" board to a "discussion" board.

No offense to anyone who asked or answered the question but at this particular moment in my life this is not a topic which interests me.

I'm sorry that this whole situation has you crying and leaving and I truly don't know why you are so upset. A week or so ago you posted (if memory serves me right) that reddies don't bother you, they add color to your profile.

Today you're crying and leaving over something that seems relatively minor to me, and I really didn't intend to offend you or argue with you.

It might be minor to you but it is not minor to Alty, to me, to others.

Everybody is going through there own personal struggles. No matter what it may be. Honestly if you only intended to move it then there should have been no reason to comment at all in this thread, right?

No arguing just saying.

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Originally Posted by Jesushelper76

It might be minor to you but it is not minor to Alty, to me, to others.

Everybody is going through there own personal struggles. No matter what it may be. Honestly if you only intended to move it then there should have been no reason to comment at all in this thread, right?

No arguing just saying.

Alty asked me why I didn't respond to this thread. I explained why I didn't and why I'm "here" in the first place.

I said this appears to be minor to me. I never said it appears minor to Alty or anyone else or, for that matter, that it IS minor. I said that's how it appears to me. I've seen her get slapped with unfair insults and not turn a hair. I don't know why this thread has set anyone off.

And as far as - "Honestly," If I had intended to move it why did I respond? I didn't move the thread! I asked that a moderator close it; nothing was done; the thread went on; I felt it was out of line; I posted, asking that it be moved; it was moved. That's how it played out.

I can't move anything - I don't want the power to move/close/edit anything. I can make suggestions, just like any other member, but I am not a moderator nor do I have any other super powers on AMHD.

I appreciate that Alty is going through personal struggles. I appreciate that most of the people here are going through personal struggles. You don't need to remind me that we all have personal losses and struggles.

If I had magical AMHD powers I would close this entire thread because it's going no where and causing friction.

I have been proud to call Alty my friend for a long time - and there have been times when she has stopped me in my tracks and made me think. I hope this is one of those times when I've done the same for her.

Can we stop being cranky? Let's just enjoy our discussion without the drama.

I love that Idea Heath, it goes around in circles and is not good for anyone. (;

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Originally Posted by friend4u178

Enigma

I just saw your pic in the Pics thread Attachment 30252

Alty go have a look https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/lounge...ml#post2053431

Stunner :cool:

Well... I found nothing. I need a post # instead of a link, for some reason mine is different, but I can count up and down:)

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Originally Posted by Just Dahlia

Well... I found nothing. I need a post # instead of a link, for some reason mine is different, but I can count up and down:)

Post 467

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Originally Posted by hheath541

post 467

Thank you:)
That was on page 24 for me

I think that I'm one of the people with whom Alty is having an issue.

I do apologize for my actions.

Thank you!

I really want to close this thread, but I'm not sure if that is the right thing to do. It appears that there are issues to be worked out and I don't know if that would happen if this thread were closed. On the other hand, could these problems get bigger if the thread were left open? I feel I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

My 2 cents - and it appears I started the whole thing by asking that the thread be moved - is that it either be moved BACK to where it was (I am the only one who thought it was inappropriate) and left open OR simply remain here and left open.

I'm afraid this is one of those threads that will get bigger in time and if never resolved will never go away.

- And I know you're in the middle. I am sorry about that.

You're an RN. Maybe we should each take 2 aspirin and call you in the AM?

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

My 2 cents - and it appears I started the whole thing by asking that the thread be moved - is that it either be moved BACK to where it was (I am the only one who thought it was inappropriate) and left open OR simply remain here and left open.

I'm afraid this is one of those threads that will get bigger in time and if never resolved will never go away.

- And I know you're in the middle. I am sorry about that.

You're an RN. Maybe we should each take 2 aspirin and call you in the AM?

I actually moved the thread before anyone even asked.

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Originally Posted by J_9

I really want to close this thread, but I'm not sure if that is the right thing to do. It appears that there are issues to be worked out and I don't know if that would happen if this thread were closed. On the other hand, could these problems get bigger if the thread were left open? I feel I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Naw! I think that the issues are only between a few people.

In my opinion, the thread should remain open, and die on it's own.

There really have been only a precious few of us who have beem parcipating on it anyway...

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Originally Posted by Clough

Naw! I think that the issues are only between a few people.

In my opinion, the thread should remain open, and die on it's own.

There really have been only a precious few of us who have beem parcipating on it anyway...

It is a decision I will have to make Clough, and I will make it, either way, in the best interests of the members involved.

I have been watching this thread since its inception. I know what is happening. I know who has been hurt and why.

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Originally Posted by J_9

I actually moved the thread before anyone even asked.

Didn't realize that and now I see it's several posts back - my error.

Well I guess it remains that I too should apologize. I think it is clear that my intention when creating this thread was never to start any controversy of any type but to generate some 'personal growth' intrinsic thought.

Over the last two years and nine months that I have been a member of AMHD I have never intentionally participated in arguing or tried to start trouble. If you take a minute to research my threads or any of my posts I believe that you will find that I have tried to be an upstanding member who hopefully brought something positive to the table.

"What would you do if you knew that you would not fail?

This thread's intention was not to be frivolous or to provoke any negative controversial reactions. It was a simple (clear in its intent, I thought) question fully intended to possibly provide a thoughtful response and give others (and myself) the benefit of other members' thoughts.

So, I will in the future choose even more carefully all that I have to ask or say.

I am sorry that this whole mess has taken on a life way beyond what it was created for. I personally do not like to be involved in anything like this has evolved into.

Closing the thread is simple and at this point not a bad idea although I have never had one of my threads closed before I suggest that it should be. However will that resolve the underlying issue that apparently exists, I don't know, hopefully.

All that I have said has been with the knowledge that control is necessary to have a great site like AMHD. And I agree that no other site in my humble opinion is as helpful and thought provoking as the only one where I choose to be a member.

Close it please.

Stringer

Closing the thread will not accomplish anything.

Stringer, I thank you for opening up this thread. It has meant a lot and a lot of good ideas and thoughts have been shared on this thread. Also would like to see and say that maybe resolutions can be done on this page as well.

Stay strong everyone and love you all, and know that maybe the stress of life is getting to each and everyone of us in different ways but we all should come together and mend fences.

No talking about what happened, or second guessing or grudging up things.

Lets make tomorrow a new day with a new set of mind and move on and be better for it. All friendships and family goes through there ups and downs and arguments and disagreements , etc..

But eventually it will work itself out and we will be stronger for it. We are a family here.

Hoping for the best and closing this thread will not resolve anything but make things worse, I know that from PAST experience.

JH, I really liked your post about not failing as a father and husband. It really connected with me too, except me being a mother. My daughters father didn't have the easiest life growing up, I vow to make my daughters the best I can. Even as a single mom.

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell

JH, I really liked your post about not failing as a father and husband. It really connected with me too, except me being a mother. My daughters father didn't have the easiest life growing up, I vow to make my daughters the best I can. Even as a single mom.

I like it too, and I wish you the best with parenting. :)

Thanks Ohso!

I'll post here once just to clear a few things up and hopefully put an end to the fighting that I seem to have started.

Judy, I was never upset that the thread was moved, I think it was a good decision.

I am upset that I'm being chastised by two people that are far from guilt free. I've seen both you and Clough hijack threads and both of you veered off topic here. It bothers me that I got my hands slapped from two people that don't have the right to slap them.

I am more sensitive then usual, I've been going through a lot of crap lately and all of you only know a small portion of it, only what I've chosen to share with you. Yes it's getting to me and maybe I should have just logged off and quietly taken a break until I was better able to handle the criticism. I didn't and it's too late now.

For once it would just be nice not to be judged by people that have no right to judge because they're guilty too. That's why I was upset. I'm far from guilt free, but at least I'll admit it.

I'm taking a break so there really is no reason to fight about it anymore, the offending party is leaving for a while so the thread can get back on track and everyone can be happy.

Clough, Judy, I still consider you friends, that doesn't mean we'll always agree and sadly it means that you have the ability to hurt me more then most. The one time poster, troll, newbie, wouldn't have gotten to me. The fact that I do care about both of you made it hurt more. That's my problem, no one else's, and no worries, I'll deal with it, that's why I need a break.

I'll be back, maybe in one day, maybe in one week, month or year, don't know, but I will be back so no one needs to feel bad or apologize. This one's on me, it's the way I feel and I can't change that any more then I can change the color of my eyes.

Just don't be mad at each other because of this, okay?

I'll leave you be now to get back on topic. I'll post again when I'm ready to come back.

Love you all.

Alty

Thanks for coming back Alty.

I don't want to open up a can of worms here but if a thread is moved to the lounge, where idle chit chat is allowed does a thread really have to stay on track?

I mean there have been threads in the lounge about everyone going camping - we didn't have to talk about camping for 1500 posts.

If it was on the regular board then fair enough, stay on topic but in the lounge, who cares?
Don't like chit chat - don't go to the lounge.

Anyway - I really like Joe's post - you shouldn't have to wish for it though Joe, you already are a great father.

People seem overly focused on the letter, not the spirit, of this thread. A topic like this is GOING to spawn discussion. I have a feeling, that if people hadn't started complaining about it being off topic, it would have righted itself within a few pages. A good chunk of the off topic portion of this thread revolves around rather or not it needs to stay strictly on topic, rather or not it needed to be moved, and rather or not it needs to be closed.

If none of that had been introduced, then the side discussion would have run it's course and the thread would have gotten back on topic. As it stands, it may be a bit too late for that, and it doesn't matter anymore since it got moved to the lounge.

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Originally Posted by hheath541

people seem overly focused on the letter, not the spirit, of this thread. A topic like this is going to spawn discussion. I have a feeling, that if people hadn't started complaining about it being off topic, it would have righted itself within a few pages. A good chunk of the off topic portion of this thread revolves around rather or not it needs to stay strictly on topic, rather or not it needed to be moved, and rather or not it needs to be closed.

If none of that had been introduced, then the side discussion would have run it's course and the thread would have gotten back on topic. As it stands, it may be a bit too late for that, and it doesn't matter anymore since it got moved to the lounge.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by hheath541

people seem overly focused on the letter, not the spirit, of this thread. a topic like this is GOING to spawn discussion. i have a feeling, that if people hadn't started complaining about it being off topic, it would have righted itself within a few pages. a good chunk of the off topic portion of this thread revolves around rather or not it needs to stay strictly on topic, rather or not it needed to be moved, and rather or not it needs to be closed.

if none of that had been introduced, then the side discussion would have run it's course and the thread would have gotten back on topic. as it stands, it may be a bit too late for that, and it doesn't matter anymore since it got moved to the lounge.

So much for by-gones being by-gones and moving on from here.

Yes, I am one of the people who complained about going off topic.

Instead of keeping this on the thread, why not just PM me and say whatever it is you would like to say?

Or, for that matter, take it up with the moderator who moved it, a person who already feels bad because she's in the middle.

I wasn't targeting any one person. In fact, I'm pretty sure I commented on the same subjects. In this instance, pretty much everyone is to blame.

I was referring to this part of your post: " i have a feeling, that if people hadn't started complaining about it being off topic,

I didn't realize you also complained.

You know what else I would do if I couldn't fail... Open up a a no-kill shelter!

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Originally Posted by Stringer

What would you do if you knew that you would not fail?

I would bring world peace to this world.

I would hope and pray that all people would get along even with so many differences.

We can talk about differences and opinions that are different without taking it personally.

That I think people need to realize what is truly important in life.

Getting off my computer, before that starting a new account at askmehelpdesk. New user name, new start... Ratings do not mean a thing to me, I am who I am.

Now each and everyone of you think about what is most important in your life right now, and right this moment make it your priority and maybe we all will take a break and be refreshed after this.

Love you all, Bye for now, and will meet you all again soon sometime in the future.

Joe

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell

You know what else I would do if I couldn't fail... Open up a a no-kill shelter!

That would be beautiful. No kill shelter, they should all be no kill shelters.

Well when are you going to open one up??

Oh dear, I wish I could quit my job and focus on that 100%. I agree they should all be no kill. Maybe when someone neglects and abuses their animals or are BYB, they should get the death penelty?? I know too harsh, an eye for an eye, is that really justice? Opps now THIS topic could get risqué! I think people should get fined for not spaying or nuetering their dogs (if they don't have breeding rights).

JH please don't go.