Ask Me Help Desk - No chat speak, no text talk! - The Nonsense and NO topic version

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

My sister on my mothers side? Huh? Doesn't that still mean she's your sister? Wow, this world is too darn confusing.

You're right Judy, the english language is being lost in translation. ;)

My sister on my mother's side means we have the same mother but different fathers. Father's side is same father, different mothers.

Have you ever met my sister? We're sisters on the far side. But that's for another board.

You and I, for example, are sisters on the AMHD side.

All right, the whole youse thing must have come from my crazy family. Those old style dutch Americans tend to use it a lot. I only say youse when I make fun of people. "Hey youse guys." Like the overweight tough guy on Futurama.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

And while we're on the subject - I don't understand the use of "stay" in place of "live." I ask where a person lives and get a blank stare. Where do you stay, that they understand.

And when did the word youse come into practice? I've come to understand it's the plural of you. For example, if I'm alone, "What do you want?" If I'm with a partner, it's "What do youse want?"

Text speak - I have no idea but I find the English (or semi-English) language is becoming more and more confusing.

And then there's the whole "my sister on my father's side, my sister on my mother's side" confusion.

... and where did this word "prolly" come from? As in... "I can prolly ask my bff to come wiv me" Which brings up another one! "wiv?"

ArtLady, I will answer the serious questions if I can, but I do remind them that chat speak/text speak is against the rules here! They are suppose to read the rules when they join. Some will appologize and use proper English, so we know they can actually spell if they want to. It's just a matter of being lazy. Many will get nasty with you, and tell you they will talk the way they want... after calling you names. These are the ones I won't bother with. If they don't have any respect, they will get what they give.

Too much, way too much, my poor brain hurts!

We need a new dictionary, one for chat speak, text talk, and other words that are used on a daily basis. I need help with all this!

I really think I'm too old to learn youse guys. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by artlady

Why? It seems like some teens don't know how to communicate any other way.

I personally find it annoying but I would not refuse a question simply because some one posted it in an improper manner.
How do you differentiate between chat speak and just poor grammar and spelling?

Maybe English is someones second language , you would not want to be considered prejudicial ,would you?

I do appreciate the concept in theory but what are you going to do if someone with a very serious problem logs on and asks for help in chat speak?

If it happens on the legal boards the OP is asked not to speak in chat or text speak. Poor spelling is you. Text speak is U.

And, yes, people have come onto the boards and criticized other people's spelling, including on the forum help board. It was interesting because the "correct spelling" person used atrocious grammar - but that she didn't see.

I don't really know what the other boards do - I don't like chat/text on the legal board and it's very hard to take someone seriously, particularly when the person is giving advice, when there's a lot of "cuz" and "u" going on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by starbuck8

...and where did this word "prolly" come from? As in........"I can prolly ask my bff to come wiv me"

ArtLady, I will answer the serious questions if I can, but I do remind them that chat speak/text speak is against the rules here! They are suppose to read the rules when they join. Some will appologize and use proper English, so we know they can actually spell if they want to. It's just a matter of being lazy. Many will get nasty with you, and tell you they will talk the way they want...after calling you names. These are the ones I won't bother with. If they don't have any respect, they will get what they give.

So true Starby. We deal with this a lot on the teen threads. When I go to the adult sexuality threads and someone is posting in chat speak, well, that's a pretty big sign that they aren't 18 and shouldn't be posting there.

We get a lot of young people here, and I welcome their questions, and try to give them answers, but I'm not willing to spend an extra 1/2 hour of my time just trying to figure out what they are asking in their post.

If they can't be bothered to spend the extra time to write a clear post, then why should I spend time de-coding it?

Exactly Alty! If they want a genuine response, they can at least have the courtesy to write their question properly!

Might be characters?

Computer's use bytes, nibbles and words not lines. Storage is in bits, bytes, nibbles or words. Might also depend on puctuation like color for that uses more VBScript. So "RED" is shorter than "RED" by 20 characters.

Are you nibbling on us K.I.S.S. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleStupid

Might be characters?

Computer's use bytes, nibbles and words not lines. Storage is in bits, bytes, nibbles or words

Don't forget the double word!

Double word? Is it bad? Grrrrr, you computer people don't speak english either. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

Double word? Is it bad? Grrrrr, you computer people don't speak english either. ;)

Nah, it's good. A double word is 16 bit. It can represent a number up to 65,535. A regular word only goes up to 255.

Alty - I know you speak English and German but don't you also speak Canadian, eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Alty - I know you speak English and German but don't you also speak Canadian, eh?

LMAO Judy. It's funny, most Americans think that all Canadians speak like newfies (Newfoundlanders) but that's not the case.

Starby and I were actually talking about this the other day. Yes, we do have some phrases that are different then yours. We say Grade one intead of first grade, and other things like that. Most times, when a Canadian is portrayed on TV, they make them talk like Newfies, I don't understand Newfies and I live in Canada.

Sneezy and I were talking the other day, he asked if I knew any Eskimos. Now I'm sure he was kidding, or I hope he was, but no, I don't live anywhere near Eskimos, I've never seen an igloo, never hunted a seal and it's not winter all year. ;)

Okay, long explanation, sorry, but now you know, eh? God, that feels unnatural, even when I write it! :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by retsoksirhc

Nah, it's good. A double word is 16 bit. It can represent a number up to 65,535. A regular word only goes up to 255.

Gushundheit!

Alty:

If you don't understand chat speak, how do you expect to understand this: Nibble - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why does this thread keep degenerating into food?

I sound like I'm from Lon Guyland (as opposed to Long Island). I sort of pick up accents and phrases as I go. After I long day of work I'm calling people bro' and dude. Takes a day or two to get back to normal.

While I'm posting this I am most definitely NOT a dude - maybe I should post my photo again. Dude-ette, possibly. But a dude? No.

And do you go on vacation or holiday?

Eh?

We take a vaction and go on holiday's. ;)

KISS I wasn't talking about food, I though you were nibbling on my ear. If that wasn't you, who was it? ;)

Starby, bless you. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

LMAO Judy. It's funny, most Americans think that all Canadians speak like newfies (Newfoundlanders) but that's not the case.

Starby and I were actually talking about this the other day. Yes, we do have some phrases that are different then yours. We say Grade one intead of first grade, and other things like that. Most times, when a Canadian is portrayed on TV, they make them talk like Newfies, I don't understand Newfies and I live in Canada.

Sneezy and I were talking the other day, he asked if I knew any Eskimos. Now I'm sure he was kidding, or I hope he was, but no, I don't live anywhere near Eskimos, I've never seen an igloo, never hunted a seal and it's not winter all year. ;)

Okay, long explanation, sorry, but now you know, eh? God, that feels unnatural, even when I write it! :eek:

It is funny that most things portrayed on TV are either French speaking Canadians, :rolleyes:, or everything in eastern Canada! It's funny how people think we say "aboot" instead of "about." I've only heard one person say "aboot" once in my life (a newfie) other than the comedians on TV who are doing a stereotypical act. The Western Provinces are MUCH different than the Easterners. I say "eh" once in awhile when I'm trying to be funny... or something like... "that sucks eh?" But more often if I'm being more serious, I'll say "hey that sucks!" Means the same thing, but with "eh" I'm more often than not, making fun of the ones that use "eh" after everything they say.

The Eskimo thing is hilarious! I honestly had someone ask me one time if I was scared of Polar Bears when I went outside, or if we had actual stores or if we went out ice fishing everyday to catch our supper! Too funny! Hahaha! I've known people from the States that think we don't even have cars here! They think we go places in dog sleds, and we eat Walrus meat for dinner! Oh, and we all wear touques! Alty... do you have a touque? I'm surprised I know how to spell it! LOL!

Anyone watching this US Airways Jet that just crashed in the Hudson River? I wonder how many people were aboard. The jet sank.

EDIT:: They got 151 people off the plane before it sank.

I do have a touque, darnit, I'm a goner. :(

You haven't had walrus meat? Wow, you're really missing the good life. ;) I saw a polar bear once, at the zoo. As for the sleds as means of transport, why do you think I have 3 dogs? I've been ice fishing once in my life, when I was around 6 years old. I remember it well, I almost fell into the darn hole and became an Altysicle. We had to drive for hours just to find a lake that we were told had fish, we fished all day until someone finally told us that finding fish in the lake was like finding Santa in Hawaii, not going to happen. ;)

Aboot the touque, I only wears it in winter. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

I do have a touque, darnit, I'm a goner. :(

You haven't had walrus meat? Wow, you're really missing the good life. ;) I saw a polar bear once, at the zoo. As for the sleds as means of transport, why do you think I have 3 dogs? I've been ice fishing once in my life, when I was around 6 years old. I remember it well, I almost fell into the darn hole and became an Altysicle. We had to drive for hours just to find a lake that we were told had fish, we fished all day until someone finally told us that finding fish in the lake was like finding Santa in Hawaii, not going to happen. ;)

Aboot the touque, I only wears it in winter. ;)

Maybe we will get a Chinook, and we can go to Timmies for a double double, some Timbits and a Nanaimo bar! Then we can put on our runners and go for a Kokanee and some Poutine! It's Happy Hour at the Pub so bring your Loonies and Toonies! Then we can take off to Cowtown and compete with the Buckle Bunnies for Jello Shots! Then we can do a farmer turn to Edmonchuk and get a farmer tan along the way. We can't forget to stop and pick up a flat and a forty pounder!

Quote:

Originally Posted by artlady

Why? It seems like some teens don't know how to communicate any other way.

I personally find it annoying but I would not refuse a question simply because some one posted it in an improper manner.
How do you differentiate between chat speak and just poor grammar and spelling?

Maybe English is someones second language , you would not want to be considered prejudicial ,would you?

I do appreciate the concept in theory but what are you going to do if someone with a very serious problem logs on and asks for help in chat speak?

First... I hesitate to throw around the word prejudice so easily. It dilutes and diminishes the meaning of the word.

If I wander onto a site that is in spanish or cantonese or anything but english... I don't think "those terrible, prejudiced people!"...

I think... well, they have a niche market and perhaps limited resources for their site, bandwidth...

So...

Yes, there are gray areas... btw's and lol's get passed all the time. Some experts and mods are more strict than others. Personally I don't care all that much until it becomes 2 much lik this an you no it isn't the fault of a skipped consonant here or there.

Short answer is life demands some restrictions most of the time. If you cannot speak in a manner that those offering you help (again... free help here... ) can manage... then maybe you need to seek other resources.

I have a refugee couple living with me, rent free. One speaks broken english, the other barely understands it and speaks less. I'm happy to give them the resources I can. If either posted on this site with textspeak, id turn them away.

Site rules. Its not prejudiced to ban textspeak. It is a restriction that might limit the usefulness of AMHD to some members... but not prejudiced.

It is prejudiced to kill the father, brothers, and sister of an 11 year old boy in the congo because he belonged to the "wrong tribe"...

I'm guessing maniriho wouldn't find the request for textspeak to be abandoned here to be a gross violation of his rights as a human... maybe that's just perspective.

Then again... if the site ever demands the proper use of capital letters and punctuation, well, it'll be a hard decision to make. I like my lazy shortcuts...

But it isn't my site or rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by starbuck8

Maybe we will get a Chinook, and we can go to Timmies for a double double, some Timbits and a Nanaimo bar! Then we can put on our runners and go for a Kokanee and some Poutine! It's Happy Hour at the Pub so bring your Loonies and Toonies! Then we can take off to Cowtown and compete with the Buckle Bunnies for Jello Shots! Then we can do a farmer turn to Edmonchuk and get a farmer tan along the way. We can't forget to stop and pick up a flat and a fourty pounder!

I'm impressed Starby, you pulled that off without a hitch, I couldn't have done it. Now I have a craving for Timmies, bad girl, and a nanimo bar, after my poutine, my heavenly, heavenly poutine (a heart attack waiting to happen!).

Did you hear that their talking about getting rid of the $5 bill and turning it into a coin too? How much weight do they expect us to carry? What will they call it? We've got the loonie, the toonie, are we getting a foonie? :eek:

KP, bravo, bravo, bravo, I couldn't have said it better myself, in fact, I didn't say it better.

Personally, if you started using capitals I wouldn't know what to do. I like your uncapitalized posts, they are pleasing to the eye. Now, I myself cannot go without capitals, too many years of typing and having my fingers wacked with a ruler if I did it wrong. Darn typing teachers, they're all mean! :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

I'm impressed Starby, you pulled that off without a hitch, I couldn't have done it. Now I have a craving for Timmies, bad girl, and a nanimo bar, after my poutine, my heavenly, heavenly poutine (a heart attack waiting to happen!).

Did you hear that their talking about getting rid of the $5 bill and turning it into a coin too? How much weight do they expect us to carry? What will they call it? We've got the loonie, the toonie, are we getting a foonie? :eek:

Foonie foonie for foonie... banana fana for foonie... fe fi for foonie... FOONIE! They're insane!

Before we know it all of our money will be coins, we'll have to lift weights just to be strong enough to carry a wallet! :(

I thought they were being reasonable with the loonie, a bit insane with the toonie, but a $5 coin, have they lost it completely? Darn Canadian government, they won't be happy until they break our backs!

I say fooey to the foonie!

I want to know where they came up with these stooopid names to begin with?! That's the East for you... eh?

Yup! Darnit, got to hook up the team to the sled, it's time for me to pick up the kids. I'll be back later, hold down the igloo for me.

Are we bugging them too much about the Canadian thing Starby? ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

Yup! Darnit, gotta hook up the team to the sled, it's time for me to pick up the kids. I'll be back later, hold down the igloo for me.

Are we bugging them too much about the Canadian thing Starby? ;)

Make sure you don't get pulled over by the Mounties and get caught with a Mickey or worse yet, a Texas Mickey or a poverty pack you square head! And whatever you do... don't go stubble jumping!

Stubble jumping? Whatsat?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

Stubble jumpin? whatsat?

Taking a shortcut through a farmers field... lol

Oh, we don't have a lot of farmer where I live. Sorry. ;)

Did you shower? Are you all fresh and clean now? Sniff, sniff, um, what's that? ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

Oh, we don't have alot of farmer where I live. Sorry. ;)

Did you shower? Are you all fresh and clean now? Sniff, sniff, um, what's that? ;)

I think only Big A and his friends went stubble jumping... otherwise I wouldn't have known what it was either! I knew that one would getcha! LOL!

Smell?. oops... sorry! :p

Starby! If you're going to fluff at least leave the room, jeesh, my mouth was open! :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altenweg

Starby! If you're going to fluff at least leave the room, jeesh, my mouth was open! :(

:o... sorrwweee are you bizzzeee?

Quote:

Originally Posted by altenweg

starby! If you're going to fluff at least leave the room, jeesh, my mouth was open! :(

o

m

g

!

=o

Actually, I'm waiting for Wiggy to get home with din din and then I have to give the rugrats a bath, tuck them in, read them a book, go crazy, cry, drink, you know, the usual! ;)

I'll email you when I'm done with all that, then we can talk without the "mommy, I want, mommy Jared hit me, mommy Sydney won't play with me, mommy, mommy, mommy". It's amazing, when they're born you can't wait until they say "mommy" for the first time, now I sometimes wish they didn't know the word! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp2171

o

m

g

!

=o

KP, run, save yourself! :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by kp2171

o

m

g

!

=o

I'z chasin youse! I'z guna hole u down n fluff on yer hed!