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  • Jan 25, 2006, 06:42 AM
    bizygurl
    Are my attachements still not working? Im looking at it now and they are. But let me know if they still aren't and Ill try and remove them. Maybe management doesn't want me to use them. They re a picture of the twin towers, and it says" 9-11, this should never have happened. Maybe management thinks it would offend others. I hope it doesn't, and that wasn't my intention, if it needs to be removed Ill take it off.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 07:07 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bizygurl
    Are my attachements still not working? Im looking at it now and they are. But let me know if they still aren't and Ill try and remove them. Maybe mangement doesn't want me to use them. They re a picture of the twin towers, and it says" 9-11, this should never have happened. Maybe management thinks it would offend others. I hope it doesn't, and that wasn't my intention, if it needs to be removed Ill take it off.

    They are not there full stop now Bizygurl ;)
  • Jan 25, 2006, 07:20 AM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bizygurl
    Are my attachements still not working? Im looking at it now and they are. But let me know if they still aren't and Ill try and remove them. Maybe mangement doesn't want me to use them. They re a picture of the twin towers, and it says" 9-11, this should never have happened. Maybe management thinks it would offend others. I hope it doesn't, and that wasn't my intention, if it needs to be removed Ill take it off.

    From what info I just got, you might have deleted the attachments, so please try to post them again, and we'll let you know if we can see them.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 07:46 AM
    bizygurl
    Chery, I think DJ'H said that they still weren't there, so I did delete them. I figured that maybe there was a block on them for a reason. Its too bad it was a really good attachment.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 08:14 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bizygurl
    Chery, I think DJ'H said that they still weren't there, so I did delete them. I figured that maybe there was a block on them for a reason. Its too bad it was a really good attachment.

    No they were not there, so I guess Admin did block them. I am sure it was a great attachment though. ;)
  • Jan 25, 2006, 09:02 AM
    bizygurl
    Yeah it was, I was kind of bummed that they blocked it, because I didn't think at the time it would have insulted anyone, I mean 9-11 did happen and I only put it in reference to what my post was saying. But I really didn't think about that it may bother people sensetive people. Or people who had lost a loved one who and are reading this thread, and that I can completely understand. I probably should have thought that a little more through.

    Im glad you guys told me what was going on. I kind of wished administraion had sent me an e-mail about the block, I wouldve taken it off right away, no questions asked.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 09:27 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bizygurl
    yeah it was, I was kinda bummed that they blocked it, because I didnt think at the time it would have insulted anyone, I mean 9-11 did happen and i only put it in reference to what my post was saying. But I really didn't think about that it may bother people sensetive people. Or people who had lost a loved one who and are reading this thread, and that I can completely understand. I probably should of thought that a little more through.

    Im glad you guys told me what was going on. I kinda wished administraion had sent me an e-mail about the block, I wouldve taken it off right away, no questions asked.

    They may not have blocked it. It could have been a computer error.

    I guess we are just speculating ;)
  • Jan 25, 2006, 09:35 AM
    bizygurl
    That's true! You could be right
  • Jan 25, 2006, 09:46 AM
    LTheobald
    My turn to reply. I'll probably add some things that have already been added but I can't be bothered to read the middle pages :P

    First thing that ticks me off: RUNESCAPE! You mention that word and suddenly you get tonnes of dumb 14 year olds asking how where they "can download a b0t to upd8 their r0x0r c00king skillz!". In fact I think First - no one here cares. Secondly, it's a game, do what most people and level up whatever skill by using it a lot. But not, they point this pointless question completely off topic. They then come back and ***** when they lsiten to some random person who said "post your username/password here" and then wonder how they got hacked.

    Come to think of it, the ones that really annoy me are the ones who say they have been hacked but never used a bot. All they did was give their details to their mate. NEWSFLASH: Your "mate" has probably logged into your account and taken your stuff..

    Next, onto the punctuation. Now I know my grammar isn't great and I possibly, just possibly, use a comma once to many. But I don't think it annoys anyone. But when somebody feels that they need,, to,, separate,, every,, frigging,, word,, with,, commas,, instead,, of,, spaces,, - THAT ANNOYS ME!


    Ben, you've got us all started now.


    Onto the homework peeps. I don't mind if somebody posts their homework. I won't answer it of course but I will normally be kind and point out that I can't help them but they could start by reading/doing XYZ. Most of the time you get a polite thank you and that's that. Of course you get the occasional idiot who flames you for this.


    My final rant - people who email/PM you their response. I don't get a chance to view this board every day so if you email me saying "I'm still having trouble" chances are I will have forgotten about it the next day and your question will become unanswered. If you had just posted the response on the forum somebody else could have taken over the reins and you'd be surfing happily by now.


    And now it's almost time for me to go home so I'll end my rant by saying smoething inspiring... Monkeys are cool.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 09:57 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LTheobald
    My turn to reply. I'll probably add some things that have already been added but I can't be bothered to read the middle pages :P

    First thing that ticks me off: RUNESCAPE! You mention that word and suddenly you get tonnes of dumb 14 year olds asking how where they "can download a b0t to upd8 their r0x0r c00king skillz!". Infact I think First - no one here cares. Secondly, it's a game, do what most people and level up whatever skill by using it a lot. But not, they point this pointless question completely off topic. They then come back and ***** when they lsiten to some random person who said "post your username/password here" and then wonder how they got hacked.

    Come to think of it, the ones that really annoy me are the ones who say they have been hacked but never used a bot. All they did was give their details to their mate. NEWSFLASH: Your "mate" has probably logged into your account and taken your stuff..

    Next, onto the punctuation. Now I know my grammar isn't great and I possibly, just possibly, use a comma once to many. But I don't think it annoys anyone. But when somebody feels that they need,,,,,,to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,seperate,,,every,,,f rigging,,,,,word,,,with,,,,commas,,,,instead,,,, of,,,,spaces,,,,,, - THAT ANNOYS ME!


    Ben, you've got us all started now.


    Onto the homework peeps. I don't mind if somebody posts their homework. I won't answer it of course but I will normally be kind and point out that I can't help them but they could start off by reading/doing XYZ. Most of the time you get a polite thank you and that's that. Of course you get the occasional idiot who flames you for this.


    My final rant - people who email/PM you their response. I don't get a chance to view this board every day so if you email me saying "I'm still having trouble" chances are I will have forgotten about it the next day and your question will become unanswered. If you had just posted the response on the forum somebody else could have taken over the reins and you'd be surfing happily by now.


    And now it's almost time for me to go home so I'll end my rant by saying smoething inspiring..... Monkeys are cool.

    You want a Banana?? Lol
  • Jan 25, 2006, 11:24 AM
    ScottGem
    Hi LT,

    I share most of your rants. I especially agree with people who ask a follow-up outside the thread (starting a new thread or via PM) and expect you to remember the question. Like they are the only person who asked for help.

    So many people don't stop to consider there are other viewpoints and ways of doing things besides their own. They just expect people to see things the way that see them. And before someone thinks this is hypocritical of me, I'm not talking about things that are black and white, but where there is room for differences.

    But my biggest rant is people who don't reason. One of the main things that sets us apart from animals is out ability to reason things out from facts and logic. Many of the questions that are asked here could be answered by a few minutes of logical reasoning. Many of the arguments people make here are disproved when logic is applied. Yet so many people refuse to perform this so essential of humankind's abilities.

    Scott<>
  • Jan 25, 2006, 11:34 AM
    nwsflash
    Comment on LTheobald's post
    Agree with you 100%
  • Jan 25, 2006, 11:37 AM
    nwsflash
    Post That Piss Me Off
    The people that really piss me off are those that seem to post the same question like 2 - 3 times in different place's on the board, get a life and post once in the correct thread!! Not all over the forum. The one that gets a block straight away is when people put "REPLY NOW ASAP" :mad: I just don't even bother looking at them because most of them are just some dum *** that thinks I'm going to do there home work for them.

    I also really get pissed off with the people that post weird b/s all over different threads as like here https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showthread.php?t=18142 get a life please, the truth don't cost you anything. Would say that I agree with most of the posts on this thread 110%
  • Jan 25, 2006, 11:44 AM
    Curlyben
    Another one that's dumb as hell.
    We have a nice new "Questions About Use of This Site" boards and yet some dumb schmuk posts a building question there.

    These are the sort of people that need warnings on packets of peanuts that say "Warning could contain Nuts"!!
    This is the sort of person for whom RTFM was invented
  • Jan 25, 2006, 11:46 AM
    nwsflash
    Comment on Curlyben's post
    Lmfao they piss me off toooo big time
  • Jan 28, 2006, 06:44 AM
    Nez
    Nice to see the new added info bars below the thread title,and at the bottom of the thread.If anyone doesn't understand that,I give up! :D
  • Jan 28, 2006, 07:30 AM
    Chery
    Nez, I agree dear, admin did a good job here. Also, the sponsored links are better placed and not in the way of the other clickable features - this should work.
  • Feb 1, 2006, 02:48 AM
    LTheobald
    OK, I've got one that really makes me laugh in the computer section. A question like this:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oliver Clothesoff
    Hi, I think I may have had a virus. I recieved an email telling me that when I opened this attachment, I would be sent $100 in the post. Now my computer is doing some really wierd things.

    It's true we don't get this that often but it does happened occasionally. Personally (and I think I'm in a mean mood this morning), if you're stupid enough to think that some random person is going to send you $100 for opening an attachment well then you deserve to get the virus. When will people learn - do not open attachments from unknown address.

    And now some stupid jokes. The WordPerfect one always makes me laugh: http://www.humournet.co.uk/Jokes/techsupport.htm
  • Feb 1, 2006, 03:40 AM
    Nez
    Lee,that's a classic about attachments.Will people ever learn.The thing that makes me (laugh),is those questions that say "my girlfriend has run off with my best friend.Should I try and get her back? Or,I bought a new pair of shoes and they are the wrong colour.What should I do? Get a life... :D
  • Feb 1, 2006, 06:53 AM
    ScottGem
    LT,

    I agree. People need to take some personal responsibility for their actions. If something looks too good to be true it probably is. With all the mainstream publicity given to virus and phishing threats it amazes me that anyone would be so careless. And frankyl I agree they deserve what happened to them.

    Its not dissimilar to the people who post questions in the obviously wrong forums. What do they think all those subjects are for? Did it ever occur to them that there are some method to posting? I think it's a symptom of the Me generation. They want and think they deserve to have things handed to them.

    Scott<>
  • Feb 1, 2006, 08:18 AM
    Chery
    Hey, there's a new one on the block! How about the people who ask either hypothetical questions and/or questions for their friends. When I suggested that burnout is possible and to get a life and have fun, I didn't get much clarity either. So 'the world is still turning', stangely for some, it's the other way around...

    http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_2.gif

    I even got brave enough to suggest that if they were writing a book, to ask us for input on the title..
  • Feb 1, 2006, 08:49 AM
    labman
    Jokes? A Katie Horny posted this on another site, ''I've got to pee but there are no toilets, what should I do?'' There are 4 answers that look like serious ones to me. None of them were mine.
  • Feb 1, 2006, 08:58 AM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by labman
    Jokes? A Katie Horny posted this on another site, ''I've got to pee but there are no toilets, what should I do?'' There are 4 answers that look like serious ones to me. None of them were mine.

    http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_11_6.gif That's a jewel, please send us the link if you can still find it.
  • Feb 1, 2006, 09:20 AM
    Chery
    Comment on LTheobald's post
    Great Site - I added it to my favorites.
  • Feb 1, 2006, 11:00 AM
    Curlyben
    What is it with the multiple posts *bashes head on desk*
    Don't they understand what this https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/buttons/edit.gif nice little button does!!
  • Feb 1, 2006, 11:20 AM
    ScottGem
    Well from the icon, it looks like its cuts the document to shreds ;)
  • Feb 1, 2006, 11:24 AM
    Curlyben
    Well in some cases the posts should be cut to shreds :o
  • Feb 1, 2006, 11:25 AM
    Nez
    Comment on Chery's post
    Also read those posts.So has admin... stay tuned.
  • Feb 1, 2006, 11:28 AM
    Nez
    I just pressed that button,and a voice said "please dont press that button again!!"

    Honest :D
  • Feb 1, 2006, 11:29 AM
    Curlyben
    Bet it doesn't make decent tea either ;)
  • Feb 1, 2006, 11:57 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curlyben
    Well in some cases the posts should be cut to shreds :o

    In some cases the posters should be cut to shreds. :D
  • Feb 1, 2006, 12:12 PM
    labman
    Comment on ScottGem's post
    Careful
  • Feb 3, 2006, 09:06 AM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nez
    I just pressed that button,and a voice said "please dont press that button again!!"

    Honest :D

    You and Curlyben are right about that - and I thought I was paranoid, thanks for your help.
    http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/8/8_8_36.gifStarting early - good brain food!
  • Feb 4, 2006, 11:53 AM
    orange
    Another thing that bothers me, or rather, worries me, is when people come on here with serious medical questions, either for themselves or their pets. My husband is a doctor, and he's read several posts on the site where he thinks people need to go to a doctor asap rather than coming here. I guess maybe people just need reassurance that their condition is serious enough for a doctor's visit, or maybe live in a country where they have to pay for the doctor and can't afford it, but... it kind of scares me. Like what if a person comes on and reports a certain symptom, and a member tells them it's nothing to worry about, when in reality it's a serious condition in need of medical care? Even if an expert is a doctor, like my husband, his ability to help here is limited. He can't make a diagnosis online, and he also can't advise past certain general points. For a definitive diagnosis, people need to have medical tests.

    And when it comes to pets, I've noticed people writing things like, "my dog hasn't eaten for 4 days", "my cat won't drink water", "my animal is bleeding". Those are serious symptoms IMO. The animals should be taken to the vet right away!
  • Feb 4, 2006, 12:45 PM
    labman
    Good point. I am afraid too many times people do come here for a diagnosis and cure. Some may just lack experience and not be sure what is worth getting help for. Often somebody with a good background can say yes, no, and wait until Monday. What I hate to see is somebody saying my dog had etc. and the vet treated it with... The dog may or may not have the same thing. I seldom see anybody that knows dogs very well recommending a treatment. Others, well...
  • Feb 4, 2006, 05:33 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by orange
    Another thing that bothers me, or rather, worries me, is when people come on here with serious medical questions, either for themselves or their pets.

    That is definitely a concern of sites like this. Its more worrisome with medical issues, but concerns all the forums.

    Someone could give advice about beauty tips but to someone with an allergy that could cause serious damage, even death! Someone could give legal advice that could cause a person to wind up in jail. Someone could give financial advice, that could cause the loss of a great deal of money. Someone could give advice about a computer that could result in the loss of important data.

    I believe that this site, like others of its type, has a disclaimer somewhere that essentially is caveat emptor. ANYONE who makes important, especially life or death decisions based solely on advice they get on a site like this is being foolish In my opinion.

    But that still doesn't excuse someone given advice unless they are sure of themselves. Unfortunately there are people out there doing so. They care more about their own egos then the quality of advice they give. This is why I have been adamant about advocating that all questions be kept public. And why I like the comments/rating system we have here. Keeping questions public allow for peer review. It gives others a chance to correct mistaken advice. Which is one of the uses of the comments/ratings feature.

    But In my opinion, any serious questions about health should at least include advice to see a doctor. In some cases it should be the ONLY advice given. I feel similarly about some legal and financial issues. I think some people have been, at best, irresponsible in the advice they have given.

    As others may have noticed, I have been a champion of the quality of the advice given. I think anyone who decides to give advice on a site like this takes on a responsibility and I for one, take that responsibility very seriously. I'm not sure about others. I've encountered people who do it for their own self aggrandizement or just for fun. And while it can be enjoyable, the responsibility should come before the pleasure.

    Getting down off my soapbox now
    Scott<>
  • Feb 4, 2006, 05:33 PM
    ScottGem
    Comment on orange's post
    Good point to raise
  • Feb 4, 2006, 07:32 PM
    labman
    Comment on ScottGem's post
    Good points. The asker often is not the best judge of an answer.
  • Feb 5, 2006, 12:54 AM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by orange
    Another thing that bothers me, or rather, worries me, is when people come on here with serious medical questions, either for themselves or their pets. My husband is a doctor, and he's read several posts on the site where he thinks people need to go to a doctor asap rather than coming here. I guess maybe people just need reassurance that their condition is serious enough for a doctor's visit, or maybe live in a country where they have to pay for the doctor and can't afford it, but... it kind of scares me. Like what if a person comes on and reports a certain symptom, and a member tells them it's nothing to worry about, when in reality it's a serious condition in need of medical care? Even if an expert is a doctor, like my husband, his ability to help here is limited. He can't make a diagnosis online, and he also can't advise past certain general points. For a definitive diagnosis, people need to have medical tests.

    And when it comes to pets, I've noticed people writing things like, "my dog hasn't eaten for 4 days", "my cat won't drink water", "my animal is bleeding". Those are serious symptoms IMO. The animals should be taken to the vet right away!

    Welcome back,and hope your honeymoon was great - even with Alex's ailment.

    Alex is right, some people may not be able to see a doctor due to financial reasons, but don't know how serious their problems could be. We can advise, give examples, (trying not to be too scary even though some really need one heck of a scare to finally do something), and emphasize that the golden rule is to see the doctor as soon as possible. There is no way anyone can make a diagnosis online - not for humans, and not for animals either. If my pet does not eat or drink for 4 days, then I evidently did something wrong by not taking it to the vet on the 2d day - instead of waiting.

    Human patients should take their bodies more serious, but some do it when it's too late. If they don't ask online, they probably ask their neighbors. Plus, the "HELP!!!!!" typing does not do any good.
    We can try and re-iterate that the body is important and needs taking care of, which is far better than not answering at all, though.

    There are some countries that will accept patients without insurance, or the state has an insurance plan for all, then the excuse there is "it takes too long to get to see a doctor". So it's a "you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't" situation.

    I'm very relieved that someone else voiced the fear I also have in this regard, but it's very evident that people will continue to use this 'shortcut' or we would not see so many medical sites on the internet.
  • Feb 5, 2006, 03:15 AM
    Chery
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...5333#post85333

    I thought I'd seen them all!

    http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_25.gif

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