I agree too. Get her mad and she'll fight. That's exactly what she needs, to fight what her body is doing, to live!
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I agree too. Get her mad and she'll fight. That's exactly what she needs, to fight what her body is doing, to live!
I have felt her love and her WRAITH (Only when I teased her though)... both are powerful. She does have a powerful constitution when she wants to use it... :)
She certainly does.
So you're saying I should tic her off the next time she calls? ;)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah... weeeeellllllll...Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
Naw, tell her Stringer wants to tic her off. She should be back on the boards by Thursday.
YOU must have been researching our 'old' threads Cats... right?? TMIQuote:
Originally Posted by Catsmine
Alty... thanks so much. Oh my gosh, I am in amazement... this is too crazy... isnt it? GO STARBS GO!! Keep up the good fight! We are rooting for you... thinking and praying for you!!
Yes, very hopeful...Quote:
Originally Posted by startover22
How are you sunshine?
Well we all know that she is tough I am still pulling for her either way she is a great person that I will never forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
I am too Niley. Where there's a will there's a way, she definitely has the will.
I hope she'll call back soon but this could have just been a clear day that won't last. Either way I got to talk to her and for me, really, that means more then I can say. I didn't think I'd get the chance again.
Just to hear her voice was a miracle, one I'll cherish no matter how this turns out.
I'm still hoping, praying, waiting for that miracle. I believe more now then I ever have just because of that phone call.
I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, that's why I'm telling all of you that the doctors have not changed their prognosis, but... but. :)
I am fine thanks;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer
I am hoping for the best also...
Alty, I get it, I understand that there is not much chance, but as it stands right now, she is beating some of the odds, so there is hope, and that's a fact! :)
It is Starty.Quote:
Originally Posted by startover22
I just don't want to get everyone's hopes up only to squish them later, if that happens.
I am hopeful, how can I not be, she sounded so good on the phone, so strong, so determined, so pi$$ed off! ;)
I hope she finds a way to call more often. I also hope that she remains clear headed and gets better, fights this, finds a way to survive.
She told me "I'm doing all I can, really I am" so that's good. I just hope, hope, hope. :)
Alty this is such amazing news! I am so happy for you that you were able to talk to her. I was thinking about this thread the other day thinking I hadn't heard anything and then I was getting worried for the worse that I missed something. But thank god I didn't. I wish again I could have gotten to know her. But keep in mind, doctors have been wrong before. If they don't want to change there prognosis we will change it for them! Keep praying everyone!
I agree whole heartily sunny... the power and strength of the heart... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 88sunflower
Hey Stringer off and on when am thinking about this woman I wish I could have met I think of my mother in law. She passed away with a failing liver, but nothing to do with drinking. I heard at that time all you need is a half a liver because its an organ that can regenerate itself. Is this true? If it is I don't understand why she can't be helped. A half a liver isn't so much to ask for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer
You know sweet, I have heard that too... hmmm? J-9 could probably answer that question for us... good question girl... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 88sunflower
Well it rips my heart out. Over and over and over I told my in-laws lets get done what we need to do to see if any of us can help her. If I could have gave that woman half my liver to live I would have in an instant. I loved her more then my own mother. No one else in the family seems interested in pursuing that option. Honest to god I fear pain and needles and whatever else it would involve. But if I had to do it for Starby I would. I see the support and love we would both get from you all and then we could have her back. I hear her and I share the love of flowers and gardening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer
Good night Stringer I am headed home now. Maybe this can be an option we can check in to. Why not? If its possible that is.
Talk to you in the morning.
Hi sunflower, yes the liver can regenerate itself but only with human intervention and we aren't quite there yet. Our livers are the largest organs in our bodies and it seems odd, sometimes that something that big (as big as a football) is so susceptible to injury, disease, alcohol, but that is what we are to live with. Sorry I can't say, well gee it can and why not, but not the case my dear.
Tick
Actually, the skin is the largest organ in our bodies. But when our liver becomes toxic, or has diseases such as cirrohsis, there is no repairing it. If caught early, the progression can be slowed, but never completely stopped or reversed.
I can answer the why.Quote:
Originally Posted by 88sunflower
At this point Starby wouldn't survive the surgery. Also, because her liver was damaged due to alcoholism she's on the bottom of the list for a transplant. She'd have to remain alcohol free for at least 6 months in order to qualify.
Is it harsh? Maybe. But think of it this way. If your loved one was dying and you decided to donate his/her organs, would you want those organs going to someone that is dying because of a freak of nature, or someone who will probably destroy the organ by continuing with their addiction?
Yes, it's not an ideal world, but there are so many people in need of organs, those that will take care of the organs they get, have a good chance of survival with those new organs, they're first on the list.
You're right of course but very sad...Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
Night Sunny.
It is sad, especially when it's someone you love, but thems the rules and I can't fault them for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer
If one of my loved ones died and I donated their organs, I'd want them to go to the person that would make the most out of their second chance. Sadly, people with addictions that haven't been treated, haven't been rectified, they're only getting a second chance to continue doing what they're already doing.
I feel bad for saying it, maybe I'm horrible to think this way, but I have to agree with the doctors and hospitals on this one.
Now, if I had a choice, if Starby could survive the surgery at this time, I would give her part of my liver in a heart beat, but that's not an option.
I went through the same thing with my dad when he was dying. His liver was riddled with cancer. I begged the doctors to take half of my liver and give it to my dad, they refused simply because it would be a waste. Not only would my father not survive the surgery, but on the off chance that he did, the new liver would be riddled with cancer within days unless we got it under control.
Life really does suck sometimes. :(
You're not horrible, You're right.
It hurts, but it's true.
Life really does.
And I BEGGED the Doctors to test me for a possible kidney transplant for my husband through the last years of his life. They simply refused because he was not a good candidate, there were too many problems.
I see now that he never would have survived the surgery, let alone recovery. But I sure as heck didn't see it then.
If I have any problem with the donor system - and this very well may vary from place to place - it is the way candidates are rated. My husband was third on the list because he had good insurance, the ability to afford rejection drugs - and he had a Doctorate. I say people who didn't have those benefits and were much farther down on the list.
Unfair - but I wanted my husband to live.
Back to Jo - prayers. All anyone can do at this point is pray.
And Alty - I know you've been there and back again and you are more than courageous to be so supportive, so loving, so involved with Jo.
Love you, girlfriend!
Ditto my dear, that doesn't say it all, but it's close.Quote:
And Alty - I know you've been there and back again and you are more than courageous to be so supportive, so loving, so involved with Jo.
Love you, girlfriend!
Love you so much. :)
Judy... I have to admit something here (don't hit me... K?) I had to get out my magnifying glasss to get a better look at your avy...
Pretty nice. :)
The back of her head is all that and a bag of chips. I agree Stringer. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer
It doesn't take much Alty... She has fabulous shoulders... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
And the hair. I love the hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer
I've seen her beautiful face, she's a stunner. :)
Oh my... my heart is running wild now and my imagination isn't doing a bad job either... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
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Originally Posted by Stringer
Hmm - thank you. Photo is an interesting story - I asked my friend to take a photo of me on the beach. She had been raving about that bridge in the background all day. So guess what she took a photo of - I just happened to be wandering by.
But thank you. After I have the botox I'll post a full head shot <smirk>.
I guess you never saw my old avy - I look like my head is on sideways.
Never!! You are one of my idols Judy... I am infatuated... keep the pics coming my dear. Brightens up my day.Quote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
Alty... still love you too. :p
Never doubted it. :)Quote:
Alty... still love you too.
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Originally Posted by Altenweg
I do agree with that completely. But it was just a thought that had come to mind more then once. The sad thing is my mother in law needed a liver, they flew her to Manhattan but to them she wasn't bad enough yet to get on the list. She wasn't a drinker. She was hallucinating about eating breakfast with Charlie Pride. But as terrible as it was for her she wasn't bad enough and she passed away 2 days later. Makes you wonder how bad can it get before you can find one. Since then I have always said when I pass take whatever you can from me for another living being. Let life go on with someone else after my death. How foolish not to. I won't be using it again.
I'd love to rate you, but can't for discussion threads.
What I can say is How inspiring. Especially the comment about not using it again
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleStupid
Wow. As a comer-and-goer around here over the past few years, this is the first I heard of all this. I probably shouldn't have read it at work... Starby was always one of the more welcoming people around here, helping any way she could, or even just hanging around to chat. I just wish I'd come back a few weeks earlier. Best of luck Starby. We really hope to see you again!
It's not over until it's over, Retsy. We keep praying/hoping/wishing.
I believe that's it's stronger than that... there's so much people now... I feel that Starby will be healed... I just feel that, I know. :) But still that doesn't mean that we have to stop praying, wishing or hoping like you said.
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