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  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:12 AM
    Wondergirl
    I can't look into his eyes, but my best guess is, as soon as you aren't willing to do his work for him and come when he snaps his fingers, he will move on.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:13 AM
    br_hjs
    brb = be right back
    lol= laugh out loud
    idk= I don't know

    I guess they could be whatever you want to make of them though
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:15 AM
    br_hjs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    I can't look into his eyes, but my best guess is, as soon as you aren't willing to do his work for him and come when he snaps his fingers, he will move on.

    Welll I tell him I'm not going to do it since he's failing anyway and he just says "fine then i'll remember that"
    Its just that he never wants to hold hands or any of that but he'll do other stuff.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:17 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Yes, I think he's using you, Michelle. Why shouldn't he? He got what he wanted and still gets what he wants with the homework and don't have to do anything to get something from you.

    I really like this answer! And, I do hope you give it some thought!
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:17 AM
    Wondergirl
    Bubbling red balloons
    Lazy old lutherans
    Iowans don't kick
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:19 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    brb = be right back
    lol= laugh out loud
    idk= i dont know

    i guess they could be whatever you want to make of them though

    Gosh! Thanks! I'll try to remember! But, you know me...
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:19 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    he just says "fine then i'll remember that"...but he'll do other stuff.

    So he'll do private stuff if you cooperate with the homework, like paying you back, but not public stuff like holding hands?
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:28 AM
    br_hjs
    What I mean is that I'm not worried about him wanting me to do his work... just that he doesn't like to hold hands or kiss but he always wants to do other stuff. That's what I'm worried is all he wants from me.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:30 AM
    Wondergirl
    There's one way to test it out. Ignore him. Refuse to deal with him in any way. See what he does.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:32 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    what i mean is that im not worried about him wanting me to do his work.... just that he doesnt like to hold hands or kiss but he always wants to do other stuff. thats what i'm worried is all he wants from me.

    That is called using you.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:32 AM
    br_hjs
    That's what I tried today and then he came up to me wanting me to work with him... I was going to say no... but I don't want him to be the one mad at me. Because I can't control weather or not he decides for us to stay together... I may get mad at him but chances are I won't break up with him
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:33 AM
    br_hjs
    But is that all he wants? Does he care about me at all?
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:33 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    There's one way to test it out. Ignore him. Refuse to deal with him in any way. See what he does.

    I do agree with the above!
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:35 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    but is that all he wants? does he care about me at all?

    >>>>Edited<<<< It may be all he wants. He might not really care about you. You may just have to accept that. We have already talked about choices...
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:38 AM
    Clough
    Please read again what I wrote many pages ago. Please take it to heart. Thank you.

    I'm not sure that you even read it.

    Quote:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    If he is, does that mean he doesn't like me at all?


    Not at all. It may be just a guy thing. I remember when I was in college, it was very much kind of a game for me to see how many girls I could date. I did like most of them. It is best not to be getting really tied down to only one person at your age when you or anyone with whom you might be interested in are going to be going through so many changes in your lives as far as what you need and want for each of you as individual persons.

    It might take much practice and trying different things out with a number of different people before arriving at the one who is right for you and you being right for the other person.

    The important thing right now, is to concentrate on who you are. What you want to be and accomplish as a person. If you want to have a career in something, then you need to buckle down to doing your schoolwork. If you don't want to have a career and just be married, then maybe you will find someone with the same ideas as you about that. Just please remember, that if you do find that special person someday, with whom you want to spend the rest of your life, then either one or both of you is going to have to be able to provide food and shelter for you both, as well as take care of paying the bills.

    But, please remember what I have said about people at your age going through so many changes and I will add here, choices as individuals.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:39 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    (1) i dont want him to be the one mad at me (2) i can't control weather or not he decides for us to stay together (3) i wont break up with him

    Question for 1, 2, 3 above ------------ WHY NOT??
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:42 AM
    br_hjs
    Its like even though he shows signs that he's using me... I think those signs are LYING!!
    That's just how I feel about it. So I try to ignore them... but I'm trying to do less and less for him but still be there for him. Like when I do his homework he usually says "thanks, i owe you" but then he never does anything. What's he waiting for? And why is it so hard for him to just let me know he cares? He's like with me how I am with school. Afraid to say anything, afraid to be wrong and feel stupid, or emberassed
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:43 AM
    br_hjs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Question for 1, 2, 3 above ------------ WHY NOT???????

    Okay well if I'm mad, I can still keep us together if I want to. If he's mad and wants to break up... sometimes its too much of a stuggle to go through a long argument... but I always fight my way through it and get him to change his mind anyway... I would never break up with him because I won't give up like that
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:45 AM
    br_hjs
    I wouldn't say he's really the romantic type though... at all... but we used to hold hands and stuff at first. I don't get it. Sometimes he says he wants to and sometimes no.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:46 AM
    br_hjs
    But aren't their a lot of guys that don't like all that kissing and holding hamds?
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:47 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    its like even though he shows signs that hes using me.... i think those signs are LYING!!!!!

    Why would signs that he's using you be lies? Just because you don't WANT them to be lies, so you lie to yourself?
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:48 AM
    br_hjs
    That's just the feeling I get.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:50 AM
    br_hjs
    I actually feel like I broke up with him... and like I can do it no problem... but I know I'm wrong and I still won't do it even if I want to, because really... I don't want to
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:53 AM
    Wondergirl
    So he will continue to use you until he's out of school and can move on without you.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:54 AM
    br_hjs
    Do you think he cares about me at all or not?
  • Oct 13, 2007, 01:58 AM
    Wondergirl
    There's only one way to find out, like I said before.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:09 AM
    br_hjs
    Okay, I'll tell you how it goes. But what I would like to do is talk to him about it . But the only time I get to talk t ohim isn't long and I don't want to waste it talking about that because I just think that he would be a little annoyed by getting accused of stuff that he doesn't do. (I really think he doesn't, but I just kind of wonder about it)
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:09 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    br_hjs: do you think he cares about me at all or not?
    Quote:

    Wondergirl: So he will continue to use you until he's out of school and can move on without you.
    I think that Wondergirl has already answered your question with the answer that she gave above.

    If you are looking for us to make it right according to your wishes, that probably isn't going to happen. You need to live in reality of the situation.

    He does not care about you.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:12 AM
    br_hjs
    O well that's really nice to hear after I was just starting to fell better and quit crying and get some sleep
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:14 AM
    br_hjs
    I hate weekends. Especially Friday nights and saterdays... its to long to wait to talk to him about the things that bother me most and usually just so happen on those days
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:15 AM
    Clough
    What do you really want to happen in this relationship, br_hjs based upon the questions/comments that you have asked/stated? Please answer this question.

    You don't have to answer right now. It could be tomorrow or next week sometime. Please read things that you have posted and what we have said about them. Please?

    My thought right now, is that this is not a healthy situation for you to be in. But, you seem bound and determined to remain in it. Why? I don't really know. I am sure that there are many other guys with whom you might have a relationship if you were to choose to do so in which you would be much happier instead of trying to figure out things and guessing about things most of the time with the present relationship that you are in.

    There are many fish in the sea from which to choose friends as well as relationships. Please make your choices wisely. Currently, it would appear that you are not.

    I really do hate to see you suffer in your thoughts. It does make me sad.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:15 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    okay, i'll tell you how it goes. But what i would like to do is talk to him about it . but the only time i get to talk t ohim isnt long and i dont want to waste it talking about that b/c i just think that he would be a little annoyed by getting accused of stuff that he doesnt do. (i really think he doesnt, but i just kinda wonder about it)

    You don't have to talk to him about it. Just back off. Ignore him. He doesn't call anyway, so that's no problem. Next week in school will be the tough time. Avoid him. See what he does. Of course, he may be afraid he's losing his homework person...
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:19 AM
    br_hjs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough
    What do you really want to happen in this relationship, br_hjs based upon the questions/comments that you have asked/stated? Please answer this question.

    You don't have to answer right now. It could be tomorrow or next week sometime. Please read things that you have posted and what we have said about them. Please?

    My thought right now, is that this is not a healthy situation for you to be in. But, you seem bound and determined to remain in it. Why? I don't really know. I am sure that there are many other guys with whom you might have a relationship if you were to choose to do so in which you would be much happier instead of trying to figure out things and guessing about things most of the time with the present relationship that you are in.

    There are many fish in the sea from which to choose friends as well as relationships. Please make your choices wisely. Currently, it would appear that you are not.

    I really do hate to see you suffer in your thoughts. It does make me sad.

    Good because I planned on answering tomorrow... I'm really tired now.
    One thing I will say now though is that I know I could be with some one else who would treat me better and theirs a lot of people like that. But it just wouldn't seem real to me. They wouldn't mean anything to me. Ive been their and really didn't care when we broke up. Other people just seem like fake or something to me
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:21 AM
    br_hjs
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    You don't have to talk to him about it. Just back off. Ignore him. He doesn't call anyway, so that's no problem. Next week in school will be the tough time. Avoid him. See what he does. Of course, he may be afraid he's losing his homework person....

    I haven't been doing his work much anyway. And nothing about us has really changed. He's failing those classes anyway so its not like it really matters. And I told him today he needs to start doing his own. He said he don't know how... but he's passing 1 class I do his work in and I'm failing... (because of tests) its history class
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:22 AM
    br_hjs
    Well.. I'm going to think about how, nothing has changed and he may have been using me all this time and I didn't mind I just didn't think about it until now and so I was happier. But all that's changed is what I thought about. Nothing about us. So really its all the same and I'm going to sleep because I don't know what I'm talking about ne (any) more
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:23 AM
    Wondergirl
    Well, it's 4:25 or so here. Guess I should go to bed before the birds start cheeping. Thanks for all the conversation. More soon, I hope.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:26 AM
    Clough
    The following is from an earlier post that I wrote to you. I don't even know that you read it and what you thought of it.

    I am going to bed now...

    Quote:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by br_hjs
    If he is, does that mean he doesn't like me at all?

    Quote:

    Not at all. It may be just a guy thing. I remember when I was in college, it was very much kind of a game for me to see how many girls I could date. I did like most of them. It is best not to be getting really tied down to only one person at your age when you or anyone with whom you might be interested in are going to be going through so many changes in your lives as far as what you need and want for each of you as individual persons.

    It might take much practice and trying different things out with a number of different people before arriving at the one who is right for you and you being right for the other person.

    The important thing right now, is to concentrate on who you are. What you want to be and accomplish as a person. If you want to have a career in something, then you need to buckle down to doing your schoolwork. If you don't want to have a career and just be married, then maybe you will find someone with the same ideas as you about that. Just please remember, that if you do find that special person someday, with whom you want to spend the rest of your life, then either one or both of you is going to have to be able to provide food and shelter for you both, as well as take care of paying the bills.

    But, please remember what I have said about people at your age going through so many changes and I will add here, choices as individuals.
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:28 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    Well, it's 4:25 or so here. Guess I should go to bed before the birds start cheeping. Thanks for all the conversation. More soon, I hope.

    Cheep, cheep! We're already cheeping! :D
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:30 AM
    Wondergirl
    I'm east of you and it's dark here with no birds. Or did you mean cheap?
  • Oct 13, 2007, 02:35 AM
    Clough
    Cheep, cheep cheep... I'm a birdbrain!!

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