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  • Feb 5, 2011, 12:01 AM
    peterbranton
    If woman where suddenly all born both sexed would they kill of men ?
    If woman where suddenly all born both sexed would they kill of men ? In like a natral selection sense
  • Feb 5, 2011, 08:33 PM
    Alty

    There's no way to answer this question.

    There's no way to know what would happen if women were born "both sexed" because it's never happened, and it never will. Each woman would react differently.
  • Feb 5, 2011, 08:52 PM
    peterbranton
    Comment on Altenweg's post
    The question is not about the question , the question is about the response
  • Feb 5, 2011, 09:00 PM
    peterbranton
    Comment on Altenweg's post
    And to humble myself the reason I am interested in the response to a Q like this is because I feel as if that is maybe what they would do as I have observed myself, women seem to be very selfish and ignorant (no offence) I believe to be primeval
  • Feb 5, 2011, 09:02 PM
    peterbranton
    Comment on Altenweg's post
    A totally natural thing from a primevial survival point of view, men less because naturally they are more expendable
  • Feb 5, 2011, 09:54 PM
    Wondergirl

    Comment on Altenweg's post
    And to humble myself the reason I am interested in the response to a Q like this is because I feel as if that is maybe what they would do as I have observed myself, women seem to be very selfish and ignorant (no offence) I believe to be primeval


    Peter, if were a man's world, with men being "both sexed" as you call it, what do you think would happen then? Talk about selfish and ignorant (no offense)!! And who would clean the bathrooms?
  • Feb 5, 2011, 10:10 PM
    martinizing2

    Men and women do not think, solve problems, or contemplate issues with the same parts of the brain.

    The thought processes are routed differently and analyzed in completely different areas in men,than it is in women s brains.
    This could account for some of the problems we have understanding and communicating between the sexes.

    If they killed all of us, who would kill spiders in the house and take out the garbage?

    If we killed all of them who would we blame for causing all the traffic accidents and who would mend our laundry?

    Seriously, men and women need each other for more than just procreation. Much more.
  • Feb 5, 2011, 11:12 PM
    Alty

    Quote:

    I feel as if that is maybe what they would do as I have observed myself, women seem to be very selfish and ignorant (no offence)
    You just called women selfish and ignorant and I'm not supposed to take offense to that? Seriously? :rolleyes:

    Well, in light of that, seeing as I am a women, I'll answer the question. No, I wouldn't kill all the men, only those that thought of women as selfish and ignorant. :)

    Peter, if you scroll to the bottom of the page you'll find the answer box. This is the option you should be using to respond to posts. The comment box is only for small comments, and it's limited. In the answer box you can type as much as you want.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:05 AM
    peterbranton
    You women are so defensive on the subject, I was not asking a question of men verses women, but a question of morals connected to natural selection! and my coment on women being ignorant was a phycological observation connected with survial in the natural environment as creatures of the natural environment, women can not help it , it is not a fault but a natural thing and the realiseation of it and acceptance of it could improve ones life. And as for being sexest I am not , in fact I do all house jobs etc even when I have a female partner. And I believe in equal rights and opportunities etc, nor am I rasist or agest ,etc. I am a logical person that sees all use in everything and everyone. So eally no offence OK.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:17 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peterbranton View Post
    you women are so defensive on the subject

    If we women called men selfish and ignorant, would you get a little riled?

    You did not ask the question in a productive way that would elicit intelligent responses.

    Women live longer than men, so it seems like we've figured out how to survive just fine without men. We take care of ourselves much better than men care for themselves -- physically, socially, spiritually, medically, emotionally.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:33 AM
    Alty

    Quote:

    and my coment on women being ignorant was a phycological observation connected with survial in the natural environment as creatures of the natural environment, women can not help it , it is not a fault but a natural thing and the realiseation of it and acceptance of it could improve ones life.
    So now we're naturally ignorant, but still, we should take no offense at this opinion, and it is opinion, far from fact. That's a pretty bold statement to make without any facts to back it up. I wonder if you would take offense to my saying that all men are sexist and egotistical. Luckily for you I don't lump people into categories based on their sex.

    You may want to remember that there are a lot of women on this site. Trust me when I say that you've gotten lucky that the two women posting on this thread aren't selfish, or ignorant, nor are they easily offended.

    In light of your recent post, I'm going to stick to the opinion I expressed in my second post. Lucky for you your hypothetical question would never occur. :)
  • Feb 6, 2011, 04:17 AM
    J_9

    OMG, I can't believe I'm reading this. Women are the most selfless creatures on earth. We bear the pain of childbirth, we are up at all hours feeding babies while the men sleep. We take care of our sick children and husbands. We take the kids to school and go to work just to come home and cook dinner, clean the house and help with homework.

    It's quite apparent you have not had very much interaction with women. You feel it appropriate to criticize us and expect us not to take offense to your criticisms.

    I will tell you that I am neither selfish or ignorant. I work 12 hour shifts at night to rush home at 7am to get the kids off to school, then to clean the house and get just a few hours of sleep before the kids come home from school and I have to go back to work.

    I know many more selfish men than I do women.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 04:27 AM
    redhed35

    I'm going to try and answer that question.

    Just so I'm on the right track, are these killer robot babies? What happened to the exsisting people on the planet?

    I'm guess I would leave it all up to Will Smith to save all the men, and hopefully fingers crossed, the credits would roll and I,in my little selfish way would get in my car and go home.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 04:29 AM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redhed35 View Post
    im going to try and answer that question.

    just so im on the right track, are these killer robot babies? what happened to the exsisting people on the planet?

    im guess i would leave it all up to Will Smith to save all the men, and hopefully fingers crossed, the credits would roll and i,in my little selfish way would get in my car and go home.

    :D:D:D:D:D Those are Greenies Red!
  • Feb 6, 2011, 05:58 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peterbranton View Post
    you women are so defensive on the subject, i was not asking a question of men verses women, but a question of morals connected to natural selection ! , and my coment on women being ignorant was a phycological observation connected with survial in the natural environment as creatures of the natural environment, women can not help it , it is not a fault but a natural thing and the realiseation of it and acceptence of it could improve ones life. and as for being sexest i am not , infact i do all house jobs etc even when i have a female partner. and i beleive in equal rights and opportunities etc, nor am i rasist or agest ,etc. i am a logical person that sees all use in everything and everyone. so eally no offence ok.

    Im afraid your mising the point here. You proclaim ignorance yet your question is one born of the fact that the logic in it is totally flawed and the basis has no standing.

    Maybe you need to go study frogs. As they are omni sexual. You then can see your "natural selection" in progress. Humankind has evolved well beyond natural selection. We continue to evolve. Your question is also mute because we have evolved through technology to a point where man isn't really needed for the survival of the race. But making the statement like you have and the proclamations your making may put you first in line when it begins.

    In the modern world we have individual roles. We each have our own attributes. Its no longer the hunter gatherer days like it was long long ago in the beginning. Do many women and many men share common traites of their sexes. Yes. But they are not overiding factors. They are a compliment that causes attraction to the oppisite sex.

    You really need to rethink the basis of the question. Evolution is standing in your way.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 06:31 AM
    martinizing2

    Quote:

    and to humble myself the reason I am interested in the response to a Q like this is because I feel as if that is maybe what they would do as I have observed myself, women seem to be very selfish and ignorant (no offence) I believe to be primeval
    To base such a sweeping generality of over half the population of Earth on observations of a single person , that are limited to the surrounding area cannot be valid data.

    Your observations may be valid but cannot be applied to all women. Only the ones that were observed to be like you describe.
    Even then their actions may have have misinterpreted by you and not be valid.

    What percentage of the 3.1 billion women on Earth have you observed?
    It cannot possibly be enough to draw any conclusions that could be applied to any significant number of the female population.

    The logic, method, and data are all moot due to lack of information on the scale that would be required to validate any such theory.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 09:49 AM
    peterbranton
    To martinizing2, your comment is invalid as you coment saying it is impossible to acumilate knowledge of phycology unless you test half the world pop. Lol you are obviously not a science person! You obviously have very little or no idea what you are commenting on if fact the only reason you are commmenting is to try and strengthen your position in the pack (on here) but thanks any way your comment was also useful for me to observe
  • Feb 6, 2011, 09:53 AM
    peterbranton
    Scientific experiments are rarly proformed on half or even near half the pop of the world ! But my observations strech over many years and in many different countries so my reseach is actually quite extensive. The people that are getting defensive really you are not understanding it at all , you are merly trying to turn it into something nasty, un acceptable! I sugest you all learn pyhcology!
  • Feb 6, 2011, 09:55 AM
    J_9

    I know psychology (not phycology). Taken all of the courses in college, and use it on a daily basis at work.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 10:06 AM
    redhed35
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peterbranton View Post
    scientific experiments are rarly proformed on half or even near half the pop of the world ! but my observations strech over many years and in many different countries so my reseach is actually quite extensive. the people that are getting defencive really you are not understanding it at all , you are merly trying to turn it into some thing nasty, un acceptable!, i sugest you all learn pyhcology !!


    Why don't you use spell check?

    Its difficult to take your argument seriously when your spelling is really quite atroscious.

    Is english your second language?

    Atroscious, such a great word, its rarely one gets to use it.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 10:21 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redhed35 View Post
    atroscious, such a great word, its rarely one gets to use it.

    It's a terrific word, even when you spell it incorrectly!

    Atrocious

    (Yo, red. I usually go after Alty, especially with then/than, so I'll give her a break and pick on you this time. I do love you dearly, though, and always love your responses to people.)
  • Feb 6, 2011, 10:25 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peterbranton View Post
    scientific experiments are rarly proformed on half or even near half the pop of the world

    They aren't scientific experiments. They are studies and research projects of all kinds. Please read the APA and AMA journals to see them. Stats is a very important part of psychology and medicine.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 10:26 AM
    redhed35
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    It's a terrific word, even when you spell it incorrectly!

    atrocious

    Darn it... there goes my point!:)
  • Feb 6, 2011, 10:29 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redhed35 View Post
    darn it....there goes my point!:)

    You may have an extra chocolate after supper tonight. (That's soon, right?)
  • Feb 6, 2011, 10:39 AM
    DoulaLC

    peterbranton,

    Would you please provide examples of the many instances of ignorance and selfishness that you have observed? Please include the circumstances in which these observations took place, including what events/conversations occurred prior and following each example.

    We would be curious to know of that which you have based your theory.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 10:42 AM
    redhed35
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You may have an extra chocolate after supper tonight. (That's soon, right?)


    Yep,its 5.40pm, I'm going for a club sandwich on brown bread, coffee and scone, and since I now have permission a teeny tiny sliver of cake.:)
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:01 PM
    peterbranton
    Comment on redhed35's post
    Why use spell check when I can give people like you the opportunity to feel like your intelligent, go on have a choc you deserve it,you ability for deep thought is remarkable
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:04 PM
    peterbranton
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    So you don't think it is basically a scientific experiment ? Phycology is science and this was an experiment, I am surprised at your responses wonder girl
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:06 PM
    peterbranton
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Like to bully people at school did you or maybe a suppressed feeling because you yourself was bullied, you attack some ones miss spellling even though you know I have dyslexier , my spell check is a security breach as anyone's so I don't use it
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:08 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peterbranton View Post
    so you dont think it is basically a scientific experiment ? phycology is science and this was an experiment, i am suprised at your responces wonder girl

    Why are you referring to algae in a thread that you started about women?
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:09 PM
    peterbranton
    Comment on J_9's post
    Doesn't seem like it, maybe you should refresh and take more notice of it rather than just trying to memorise it learn it and learn how to use it, good luck, you must agree with what I said about your actions then ?
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:16 PM
    Wondergirl

    Peter, psychology is a SOFT science. Any time you deal with individuals, there are no hard and fast conclusions that can be drawn.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:19 PM
    Wondergirl

    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    like to bully people at school did you or maybe a supressed feeling because you yourself was bullied, you attack some ones miss spellling even though you know i have dyslexier , my spell check is a security breach as anyones so i dont use it

    I know red very well. Otherwise, I wouldn't have "bullied" her. I haven't "bullied" you about your spelling at all. And dyslexia is no excuse.

    Use Firefox. It can be set to spell check with no "security breach."
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:21 PM
    Wondergirl

    Have you been officially diagnosed with Asperger's, Peter?
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:27 PM
    Enigma1999

    Wow if this isn't becoming quite redundant...

    I'm not even really sure what this topic is about, considering Peter likes to switch it up, with science, and women, and selfishness, and bulling, and yada yada yada...

    "if woman where suddenly all born both sexed would they kill of men ? in like a natral selection sense"

    NO. This is something that will never happen.

    Oh and as far as women being selfish... I beg to differ my friend. In fact, we are quite the opposite thank you very much.
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:32 PM
    DoulaLC
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DoulaLC View Post
    peterbranton,

    Would you please provide examples of the many instances of ignorance and selfishness that you have observed? Please include the circumstances in which these observations took place, including what events/conversations occurred prior and following each example.

    We would be curious to know of that which you have based your theory.


    I await your response...
  • Feb 6, 2011, 12:38 PM
    redhed35

    Comment on redhed35's post

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Why use spell check when I can give people like you the opportunity to feel like your intelligent, go on have a choc you deserve it,you ability for deep thought is remarkable...

    What a strange little man you are...
  • Feb 6, 2011, 02:24 PM
    Alty

    Peter, congratulations, you have alienated all of the females on this thread. Judging by that, I have to conclude that the women you've met in your life were most likely largely put off by your attitude, you demeaning ways, and your argumentative nature. Much as the women on this thread.

    Therefore, you observations of women have no validity. Why? Because you were the common factor that all these women experienced. You are the dirt in the ointment. Do you understand that?

    I really can't blame any woman for treating you with hostility if she has to spend more then an hour with you. We've had very limited communications, for which I'm grateful, and I find you unbearable already.

    Your "experiment" on women is about as valid as any of us saying that since we encountered you, all men named Peter must be egotistical, overbearing, and generally annoying.

    But don't take offense. :)
  • Feb 6, 2011, 02:31 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Peter, congratulations, you have alienated all of the females on this thread. Judging by that, I have to conclude that the women you've met in your life were most likely largely put off by your attitude, you demeaning ways, and your argumentative nature. Much as the women on this thread.

    Therefore, you observations of women have no validity. Why? Because you were the common factor that all these women experienced. You are the dirt in the ointment. Do you understand that?

    I really can't blame any woman for treating you with hostility if she has to spend more then an hour with you. We've had very limited communications, for which I'm grateful, and I find you unbearable already.

    Your "experiment" on women is about as valid as any of us saying that since we encountered you, all men named Peter must be egotistical, overbearing, and generally annoying.

    But don't take offense. :)

    This here was amazing!

    Very witty and straight to the point. LOVE IT!
  • Feb 6, 2011, 02:35 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    This here was amazing!

    Very witty and straight to the point. LOVE IT!

    :) Thanks Enigma.

    I was biting my tongue the entire time I was writing it. There are times that I really wish I could say everything that's on my mind without having to censor it. ;)

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