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  • Jan 20, 2006, 12:54 PM
    Curlyben
    A piece about forums in general, but mainly this one.
    Please note this is a long rant, but I'm in that kind of mood.

    I have been active on this type of forum for many years.
    I started on the excellent WHQuestion, now dead, and have been active on a lot of other sites.
    Overall I have had a lot of fun and games and met some very fine people and had to put up with many idiots, flamewars and general stupidity.

    What really gets me is the apparent inability of some users to follow even the most basic rules of etiquette when interacting with other people.
    Small things like common courtesy, manners and respect are some of the things that come to mind. After all we all give our time and effort freely, but to be derided by, mostly forum newbies, is just plain bad manners.
    While I'm on the subject of rules, simple ones like correct places to post. How hard is it to find the board you want and post a question? After all, the main index page has a whole list of available subjects.

    Back to forum newbies, why is it that they feel that the use of English and punctuation are an optional extras.
    This isn't a chatroom, speed isn't an issue, so why use chatspeek. Are they really so thick that a basic grasp of English is beyond them?
    OK you can forgive grammar and spelling, we are all guilty of that one at some time, but the out and out laziness of chatspeek is beyond me.
    It really doesn't help their cause or get their question resolved any more quick, as we have to spend time in translating their drivel into useable English. Some of our foreign users have a better grasp and it's a second, or even third, language to them.


    Last couple of things I promise.
    The ability to read what has gone before your post, both previous responses and mainly the posted dates. The most annoying thing is when an ancient thread is reopened by someone posting a response. How difficult is it to check the original date and whether the user has been online since? OK some feel they are helping, but please how does posting a response to two year old question really help.
    While on posting, do they really believe that repeating the same question on ten different boards will get their question answered any more quick!

    Bugger lost my train of thought now. Amuse yourselves for a moment while I try and regain it. Normal ranting will be resumed shortly.

    I remember now, hackers, spammers and scammers. Come on are we really going to buy the next wonder penis enhancement pill just because you post it twenty times in two minutes. Are we going to send you our bank account number because you can give us an unlimited overdraft. Are we going to help you retrieve your webmail password just because you say it's your account.
    Come on idiots what planet do you think we are from??

    Rant over you may now return to real life.

    A final thing to think on:
    Why is Common Sense so uncommon?

    So what really bugs you abot these kind of forums ?
  • Jan 20, 2006, 01:59 PM
    Nez
    Nez rant
    Interesting Ben.When I joined,last January,I took time out to read the log-in details,had a look at what was available,and tried to post in the correct place.A question on nuclear physics,doesn't go under cooking :D
    The regulars,we all know who we are,have a lot of banter,and sometimes this accidently cascades into the Klingon civil war.But on the whole,we are a friendly bunch.I hate it when you reply to a newbie (we all were once),and they reply,as Ben said,in txt speak,or use words we have difficulty following.I've English (GCSE O Level) just,and sometimes English speaking newbies write as though texting a friend.Even my niece,and nephew do it,and I end up using the telephone (land-line).Can admin please say,no txt spelling please?
    For those of International countries,I can understand perfectly well there apprehension of including a few oddily written words,but for everyone else,surelly there is no excuse.
    I have also noted answers to questions years old.I know that old admin (no pun intended),of twenty so-so replies,then two years later,an answer comes along that hits the bullseye.But surelly,six months is long enough for a question which may have been answered a billion times,is good enough?
    Again,people coming on,and saying "I know a link to the combination of Fort Knox.Click here for details.Okey,that was fantasy,but you get the idea.
    Oh yes,when someone answers a question,I dont know,"should you switch your cooker off,after you've finished cooking"?,then you get that stupid reply,"yes,I do",not once,but maybe,three,or four times.The comment section is for that.Not obvious replies for nothing.
    That's it.Oh yes,today,some newbie posted a political rant,of how US soldiers should continue to get blown up in Iraq,and down with the US,etc.I think it was under Bin Laden is alive,or something.I reported this to admin,as political views,in my opinion,of a derogitary nature should be banned forever.Rant over.
  • Jan 20, 2006, 02:38 PM
    labman
    I am spelling and typing impaired. I take time to try to cover it up with spell check. I also proof read after spell check, a great new source of humor, Saddam comes out Sadism. The poorly written posts do grate on me too.

    I also don't like questions without even half the information you need for a good answer.

    Of course, my big gripe are people insisting on posting poor answers in areas where they know a lot less than others here. Once Tom showed up, I cut way back on plumbing answers, with tkrussel less in electrical, and now applguy may cause me to drop out of appliance repair. I am not here to kill time. I hate having my time killed correcting answers that should not have been posted.
  • Jan 20, 2006, 03:16 PM
    Curlyben
    Got another one for you as well.
    What is it with all these newbies recently that are expecting us to do their hoemwork for them.
    I'm all for guiding people in the right direction, but giving them the answer straight off the bat is just wrong.
    How on earth will they learn anything if someone else does all the real work for them.
  • Jan 20, 2006, 03:26 PM
    labman
    I have a degree in chemistry and have done a lot of general reading since I have been out of school. I am sure I could be giving good answers in the science and math forums. I used to enjoy answering questions in the science for children section in the original AskMe along with Loci. Since so many of them are ''Do my homework'', I don't even take the time to try to sort out the ones that deserve to be answered. Another place where the idiots hurt the good people. At least, they are easier to ignore here than all the ones sent to me at All Experts.
  • Jan 20, 2006, 03:30 PM
    Chery
    Curlyben, you pretty much said it all. One thing you forgot, is when people (mostly newbies) post the same suggestion, just in different words right after you did. And yes those 'chatese' posts do drive one crazy! But, I'm sure that when newbies post their thanks, instead of rating, they'll get the hang of it sooner or later - so we just have to be a little patient. And on those double-posters - I refer them to one or the other with the link and explain. Live and learn.
    P.S. without those 'dummies' we'd have nothing to laugh or gripe about (lol). Can I help you pick out your next name Ook!?
  • Jan 20, 2006, 04:49 PM
    labman
    You would have loved the one troll on the old AskMe. I would post an answer to a dog question. Later when I came back, she had rewritten my answer trashing the spelling and grammar and posted it as her own. Then she came back under a different name and anonymously gave my answer a low 1 star rating and hers the top 5 starts. There was a bug on the site at one time and I was able to expose her posting an anonymous question and then giving 5 similar answers each of the 5 possible ratings. The net is a much poorer place for all the good people that couldn't take such abuse and left.

    On the other hand if I post a question on plumbing, I don't care if there already are 15 answers saying the same thing, I still want to know what Tom has to say. In the same way, I feel I need to post my answer in dogs even if there are other answers.
  • Jan 20, 2006, 05:39 PM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by labman
    You would have loved the one troll on the old AskMe. I would post an answer to a dog question. Later when I came back, she had rewritten my answer trashing the spelling and grammar and posted it as her own. Then she came back under a different name and anonymously gave my answer a low 1 star rating and hers the top 5 starts. There was a bug on the site at one time and I was able to expose her posting an anonymous question and then giving 5 similar answers each of the 5 possible ratings. The net is a much poorer place for all the good people that couldn't take such abuse and left.

    On the other hand if I post a question on plumbing, I don't care if there already are 15 answers saying the same thing, I still want to know what Tom has to say. In the same way, I feel I need to post my answer in dogs even if there are other answers.

    You've got a point there Labman, but if I have something to add to a previous post, I at least state that I agree with so and so, and also add, etc...

    On another forum, there was a person that actually copied published articles from other sites and used them as her own without utilizing the quotes, and doing it the legal way. Too bad she picked articles from doctors that I personally knew, so I proved several times that she did this and she finally got tossed, but it took admin to stop her, even though she was openly told that it was not right and that she could be sued. Some people just don't have any morals at all. This was a forum where you would get a 'prize' if you got a certain amount of fast answers posted and positive ratings each month.
  • Jan 21, 2006, 02:52 AM
    Curlyben
    Good call there Labman, I'd forgotten about multiple ID trolls.
    Luckly this forum seems quite immune, OK there are one or two but they get jumped on soon enough.
    The worest place for this seems to be Pointask.
    While I'm on trolls, some forums have the ability to post anonymous questions.
    While I can fully understand the reasoning behind this idea, for posting sensitive questions, more often than not the ability is heavily abused by trolls.

    I while back I found an excellent site that goes into get detail on the subject of Trolls. LINK
    It also covers flaming, stalking and netiquette. A very valuable resource indeed, well worth a read.

    Have a great weekend guys
    Thanks for letting me rant ;)
  • Jan 21, 2006, 06:58 AM
    lilfyre
    Comment on Curlyben's post
    Good link
  • Jan 21, 2006, 08:07 AM
    labman
    According to your link, I have been misusing the term troll. So what is the proper term for the pathetic people that abuse rating systems to have a high rating despite a lack of knowledge? The worst form is giving the better people bad ratings.

    I think such people are far more harmful than those just stirring things up.
  • Jan 21, 2006, 08:12 AM
    Curlyben
    I think what you are referring to is a specialised kind of Troll as it produces the same effect.
    After all the linked sites desn't cover all areas it's just some general reading.
  • Jan 21, 2006, 11:54 AM
    Curlyben
    Got something else to add to this rant.
    When Newbies post a question and demand and instant response by either demanding in the title (ASAP, NOW, etc) or adding a time limit to it (respond by X time/date)
    Don't they realise that we have our own lives too and that we do this for fun!
    I must admit that whenever I see a demanding question I avoid it. I may read it and come back later, but I will never answer immediately.
  • Jan 21, 2006, 06:56 PM
    psi42
    This problem has been around for a long time, and was what prompted this document. Unfortunately, no one reads that either.
  • Jan 21, 2006, 08:35 PM
    labman
    I deliberately let a chemistry question go a day on all experts due to a ''Please reply promptly.'' Great link. I usually try to answer that way. Those that don't likely will not check the link.

    I doubt this thread will change how anybody does anything, but I am enjoying it.

    When are you going to lose your green boxes? Who are you kidding?
  • Jan 21, 2006, 11:01 PM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by psi42
    This problem has been around for a long time, and was what prompted this document. Unfortunately, no one reads that either.

    Just read the document, saved it for further reminders, thanks, great find!
  • Jan 21, 2006, 11:03 PM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curlyben
    Got something else to add to this rant.
    When Newbies post a question and demand and instant response by either demanding in the title (ASAP, NOW, etc) or adding a time limit to it (respond by X time/date)
    Don't they realise that we have our own lives too and that we do this for fun !!
    I must admit that whenever I see a demanding question I avoid it. I may read it and come back later, but I wil never answer immediately.

    Curlyben, you're such a bad boy, you're Cute!
    I never help anyone with homework, I tell them they are lucky to have internet - all I had was a library...
  • Jan 21, 2006, 11:09 PM
    CaptainForest
    Comment on Curlyben's post
    I agree. The newbies "demading" immediate responses is fustrating.
  • Jan 21, 2006, 11:11 PM
    CaptainForest
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curlyben
    Got something else to add to this rant.
    When Newbies post a question and demand and instant response by either demanding in the title (ASAP, NOW, etc) or adding a time limit to it (respond by X time/date)
    Don't they realise that we have our own lives too and that we do this for fun !!
    I must admit that whenever I see a demanding question I avoid it. I may read it and come back later, but I wil never answer immediately.

    I agree.

    The Newbies that demand an immediate response is fustrating.

    And quite frankly, a bit rude.
  • Jan 21, 2006, 11:13 PM
    CaptainForest
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chery
    Curlyben, you're such a bad boy, you're Cute!
    I never help anyone with homework, I tell them they are lucky to have internet - all I had was a library...


    Chery, I don't know how I would have survived in your time. When I say your time, I mean the time when you grew up.

    I don't know what I would do without the internet.

    Libraries... to be honest, I have barely ever used them. Before I went to university, I had only been to the library twice in 4 years.
  • Jan 22, 2006, 12:36 AM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainForest
    Chery, I don't know how I would have survived in your time. When I say your time, I mean the time when you grew up.

    I don't know what I would do without the internet.

    Libraries....to be honest, I have barely ever used them. Before I went to university, I had only been to the library twice in 4 years.

    The library, and all my doctor friends who gave me their books saved my life and career. You'd be surprised what treasures they have.
    My favorite book for years is an autographed 'bible' from the man who wrote the book on Neurosurgery - and I worked with him for a year. That was a super experience.
    I have to admit that I use the net now because my eyes can't handle books that well anymore, and I still love to read, and can eat, smoke, and relax more at home now.

    As far as newbies being in a hurry, the net is not an emergency room, and they'll survive, so no problem.
  • Jan 22, 2006, 03:58 AM
    Nez
    Library
    No internet,only a library.Chery,you were lucky.When I was at school,we were so poor,we had to share copied documents,share pencils,rulers,ink,bloting paper.Oh yes,and share answers... Doh... no,that last one is'nt right :D

    I remember as a child,failing to answer a question correctly,and made to stand in the corner with a dunce (idiot) hat on,for several minutes.I remember crying.At five years old,it's not a nice feeling. :mad:

    Whilst on the subject of homework,I agree that not answering is the correct way to proceed.As the brother of an English teaching sister (if you remember my photo,she is the one sitting on my right at the pub),but never mind,I'm digressing.Even she has said,don't do their homework,as they will never learn to think for themselves.

    To Captain Forest,before the net,there was paper,a pencil,and your brain.I hated those days :D
  • Jan 22, 2006, 04:42 AM
    Curlyben
    Awesome piece there Psi, I was reading it and laughing and some of the stupidity.

    Ok so its referring to technical questions, but it's so true for any kind of forum.
    Thanks for posting it.
  • Jan 22, 2006, 06:23 AM
    fredg
    Hi, Curlyben,
    Good initial posted comments.
    It really helps to get off steam once in a while!
    If this were a perfect world with perfect people, all this would not be happening. But, as we all know, it's not.
    For all of us who at one time or another, have had jobs dealing with the public in general face-to-face, it's all normal. However, when typing, reading, and trying to type something that is really what one wants to say, is different. It's hard enough sometimes to explain what one is asking face-to-face, but online is another whole ball game. That's why some of the questions asked are not really understandable, until more clarifications are added.
    I have noticed one thing about the language used, in terms of typing something that looks like a texted message on a cell phone, running sentences together, no punctuation, using "u'' for "you", etc. Many companies in the US are now having classes teaching their employees how to type! This was on the National Network news in the US. Many employees can't even type up a memo so others can read it, and we're talking Management employees here! This type of problem, with celll phone usuage, has hit the US nationwide, not just on Forums of this type.
    I really enjoy helping others with their questions. Whatever comes along, will be answered if possible; and I do expect all of this from the get-go. The only other alternative is to stop using Forums, turn my interests to other things with the computer.
    It's a fun hobby, and I treat it as such; expecting all the normal questions, language, run-on sentences, sometimes getting rude replies back from those who ask the question, and getting replies back that make no sense at all!

    Now about those 2 yr old questions being answered:
    The idea of a "pop-up" saying this question is too old, and you cannot answer it, has been discussed many times. The last suggestion I heard was to not be able to answer a question that is older than 6 months. The only way to stop this is for the Administration to do it with a "pop-up". I am sure the Administration will do something about it, if and when they see it as a major problem.
    That's my 2 cents worth, which can't even buy bubble gum now.
    I was 64 yrs old yesterday, and there is still a lot to learn. But, having dealt with the public for many, many years, there really isn't much new that comes along anymore!
    Have a great weekend.
  • Jan 22, 2006, 08:20 AM
    ScottGem
    Sounds a lot like my rants from previous issues. Unfortunately we live in an instant gratification world. Instant coffee, fast food, hi speed internet, etc. The younger generation expects things to be done quickly. They also expect answer as their due, forgetting that the answers are coming from volunteers who have already paid their dues.

    But the point is we ARE volunteers. We have EVERY right to refuse to answer some questions that we feel are rude, incoherent, unethical etc. We have EVERY right to try an instruction people on the proper way to ask questions before we answer them.

    While there is a competition for questions, this site seems to be among the more active. That gives us the ability to reject the lazy and the rude.

    Sure we should give newbies the benefit of the doubt. Give them an initial level of respect even if they don't show it to us. But once they refuse to learn, the kid gloves can come off.

    I want to help people who truly want to learn. Not people who want things handed to them in a step by step procedure they are unlikely to remember. If we teach them how to think, how to reason out the answer for themselves by giving them clues as to the direction, then we empower them to help themselves in the future. That a lot more help that saying do x, y & z.

    Rant over.
  • Jan 22, 2006, 01:48 PM
    orange
    Working in retail and fast food
    I agree with all the rants here. It's pretty interesting though to note that, people in real life are quite often like this as well, and do a lot of the same things. Anyone who has worked retail or dealt with customers or the public will know what I'm talking about here.

    For example, not reading signs or instructions... I used to work in a sandwich shop, and we would have big signs at the counter telling our customers various things such as, "The special is ONLY on the ham sandwich", "Please don't ask for parking change if you're not a customer", etc... And yet practically every day people would be asking for change, or asking to have a different sandwich substituted for the one on sale. My favorite (and unbelievably frequent!) question by customers was "How long is your 8-inch hoagie?" Ummmm... 8 inches?? :rolleyes: We also had a huge clock at the front counter, yet it was not uncommon for people to ask what time it was. Many people just don't pay attention.

    People also tried to be dishonest a LOT. They would try to use expired coupons, coupons from another store, etc. And when you said they were expired, they would lie and say that they just got the coupon in the mail... but of course when you looked at the coupon, it was like, 2 years old or more! Or, people would try to say they knew the owner and that he was giving them a deal. And if they didn't get exactly what they wanted, no matter how courteous or helpful you were to them, they would be rude, condescending... horrible really.

    So unfortunately, my conclusion is that people in general (not everyone of course, but many!) are just rude, don't bother to take the time to read directions, and expect everything to be just handed to them on a silver platter. And yes we are volunteers here, but even if we were paid something, that still doesn't excuse rudeness for a great answer given.
  • Jan 22, 2006, 02:38 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by orange
    It's pretty interesting though to note that, people in real life are quite often like this as well.

    Many people just don't pay attention.

    People also tried to be dishonest a LOT.

    So unfortunately, my conclusion is that people in general (not everyone of course, but many!) are just rude, don't bother to take the time to read directions, and expect everything to be just handed to them on a silver platter. And yes we are volunteers here, but even if we were paid something, that still doesn't excuse rudeness for a great answer given.

    Yes its true that what we see here is often mirrored in real life. But not to as great an extent in my experience. The anonymity of the Net tends to embolden people to do things they might not do in real life.

    And I agree that people have become more unethical and dishonest. The person who would not think of shoplifting a CD from a music store will eagerly download songs from a peer to peer service.
  • Jan 22, 2006, 04:14 PM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredg
    Hi, Curlyben,
    Good initial posted comments.
    It really helps to get off steam once in a while!
    If this were a perfect world with perfect people, all this would not be happening. But, as we all know, it's not.
    For all of us who at one time or another, have had jobs dealing with the public in general face-to-face, it's all normal. However, when typing, reading, and trying to type something that is really what one wants to say, is different. It's hard enough sometimes to explain what one is asking face-to-face, but online is another whole ball game. That's why some of the questions asked are not really understandable, until more clarifications are added.
    I have noticed one thing about the language used, in terms of typing something that looks like a texted message on a cell phone, running sentences together, no punctuation, using "u'' for "you", etc. Many companies in the US are now having classes teaching their employees how to type! This was on the National Network news in the US. Many employees can't even type up a memo so others can read it, and we're talking Management employees here! This type of problem, with celll phone usuage, has hit the US nationwide, not just on Forums of this type.
    I really enjoy helping others with their questions. Whatever comes along, will be answered if possible; and I do expect all of this from the get-go. The only other alternative is to stop using Forums, turn my interests to other things with the computer.
    It's a fun hobby, and I treat it as such; expecting all the normal questions, language, run-on sentences, sometimes getting rude replies back from those who ask the question, and getting replies back that make no sense at all!

    Now about those 2 yr old questions being answered:
    The idea of a "pop-up" saying this question is too old, and you cannot answer it, has been discussed many times. The last suggestion I heard was to not be able to answer a question that is older than 6 months. The only way to stop this is for the Administration to do it with a "pop-up". I am sure the Administration will do something about it, if and when they see it as a major problem.
    That's my 2 cents worth, which can't even buy bubble gum now.
    I was 64 yrs old yesterday, and there is still a lot to learn. But, having dealt with the public for many, many years, there really isn't much new that comes along anymore!
    Have a great weekend.

    Hey fred, belated Happy Birthday! I turned double-nickle today. Yeah, Aquarius!! Your points here were also very well put.
    I always loved to write and have seen some new employees not even be able to spell the most simple words. I wonder where they went to school and how they managed to graduate. I remember reading one operating report that was typed for signature and had to laugh. The report started with: The patient was prepped and raped in the usual fashion. This stuff was on medical documents and could have been used in a legal issue - and should have been 'draped'.


    http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_7_1.gif http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/13/13_14_64.gif

    Love, Chery
  • Jan 22, 2006, 05:33 PM
    orange
    Yes Happy Birthday Fred! Hope this next year is a good one for you! :)
  • Jan 22, 2006, 06:11 PM
    labman
    I am not sure about unanswered questions. In some cases it maybe best to leave them unanswered. Sort of keep quiet and let people think you are a fool, or open your mouth and remove all doubt. If somebody wonders in and sees old, unanswered question they can answer, they can see they are needed. I am not sure about the people that drop in and answer old questions, but if they have something to contribute, at least they announce they are here. I wonder how many people look back through old questions before asking one? Once in a while, somebody new will want me to expand on an answer 6 months old.
  • Jan 23, 2006, 03:08 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by orange
    I agree with all the rants here. It's pretty interesting though to note that, people in real life are quite often like this as well, and do a lot of the same things. Anyone who has worked retail or dealt with customers or the public will know what I'm talking about here.

    For example, not reading signs or instructions... I used to work in a sandwich shop, and we would have big signs at the counter telling our customers various things such as, "The special is ONLY on the ham sandwich", "Please don't ask for parking change if you're not a customer", etc... And yet practically every day people would be asking for change, or asking to have a different sandwich substituted for the one on sale. My favorite (and unbelievably frequent!) question by customers was "How long is your 8-inch hoagie?" Ummmm... 8 inches??? :rolleyes: We also had a huge clock at the front counter, yet it was not uncommon for people to ask what time it was. Many people just don't pay attention.

    People also tried to be dishonest a LOT. They would try to use expired coupons, coupons from another store, etc. And when you said they were expired, they would lie and say that they just got the coupon in the mail... but of course when you looked at the coupon, it was like, 2 years old or more! Or, people would try to say they knew the owner and that he was giving them a deal. And if they didn't get exactly what they wanted, no matter how courteous or helpful you were to them, they would be rude, condescending... horrible really.

    So unfortunately, my conclusion is that people in general (not everyone of course, but many!) are just rude, don't bother to take the time to read directions, and expect everything to be just handed to them on a silver platter. And yes we are volunteers here, but even if we were paid something, that still doesn't excuse rudeness for a great answer given.


    I am with you there Orange. I used to work as a Lifeguard. There are many signs surrounding pool area - one of which was "Non-Swimmers beyond this point" another "No Armbands beyound this point" - the amount of parents who did not watch their kids and allowed them to float up to the deep end with their arm bands on and the amount of non-swimmers we had to pull out of the deep end was unreal.

    It did not matter how many signs were around the pool, us lifeguards had to constantly keep telling parents and keep pulling kids who could not swim out of the deep end. Teenagers were the worst. There were signs up telling them not to Bomb, or duck people etc and they would continue to do so regardless. Even after 3 verble warnings I would have to kick them out - it was unbelievable. The amount of times I heard "I didn't know" was unreal - it does not matter how many signs there are or how many times you tell them.

    The teenagers even tried to play one lifeguard off another. But little did they know we exchanged information about the swimmers each time we changed shifts. If there wer kids being awkward and on verble warnings every lifeguard knew about it!
  • Jan 23, 2006, 05:23 AM
    bizygurl
    The biggest gripe I think I have is people (mostly newbies) misusing these boards for other purposes than what they are intended for. I've noticed a few threads that I literally had to ask myself "is this really a valid question, or someone just trying to be funny?" I also think that the "chatspeek" is annoying to and this isn't a chat room, although if someone has been use to chatting in a chat room, they may not be aware that chatspeak isn't the best way of going about getting there question answered. I think most newbies would understand if told them that, and would probably write in normal, legible English.
    Don't let me find that thread that was in reference to wanting to have us soldiers blown up in Iraq and in the United States. That really makes my blood boil. What is even the point in posting something like that? It only makes that person sound like a complete sicko. And if it was a joke, in this day in age are people really that stupid to be posting something like that because they think its funny? AGGHHH! You did the right thing Nez, in reporting that, thank you!
  • Jan 23, 2006, 06:01 AM
    Nez
    Sicko
    H,I saw that post Friday,I think it was,and reported it to Rick.It was deleted very quickly.Can you imagine the outrage,if anyone of us had posted a rant about the middle east,et el.Some people just come on AMHD to stir up trouble.I could have ignored it,but without wishing to get into external politics,posts such as that have to be dealt with promptly.
  • Jan 23, 2006, 06:12 AM
    talaniman
    Not only is that chatspeak thing annoying it is downright unreadable to me,but what takes the cake are the multiple posts asking the same question by the same person,what's up with that?The thing I probably hate most are the ones who after 20-30 posts with everyone's opinion running about the same they still want more opinions,or expect different ones,I really don't know what it is their looking for but it makes you want to reach through the screen and choke somebody.As I learn more about this site though I've learned to check profiles and previous threads to stay away from the occasional nut job who wanders in,also the dates of the original post,cause I just found out that a new answer makes it a new post hmmmmm.All in all this is a great way to pass on knowledge and get knowledge even with the personality clashes that pop up here and there.:cool:
  • Jan 23, 2006, 06:19 AM
    bizygurl
    Hey you know what? I saw something the other day that proves my point in people mis using AMHD? Someone was advertising there business and they posted the thread like two or three times. I think it was for some beauty cosmetic line. That really ticked me off. This isn't a friggin' free advertisement board. How is that asking for advice? I didn't even think of repoting it. But next time I will. Rant over, lol!
    I agree with you Nez, No matter what your political views are, or how you feel about a country. There is no place for that kind of post on this forum. Not only that but that threat could have easily be taken as a threat to Americans, some people, I swear!
  • Jan 25, 2006, 06:07 AM
    Chery
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bizygurl
    Hey you know what? I saw something the other day that proves my point in people mis using AMHD? Someone was advertising there buisness and they posted the thread like two or three times. I think it was for some beauty cosmetic line. That really ticked me off. This isn't a friggin' free advertisment board. How is that asking for advice? I didn't even think of repoting it. But next time I will. Rant over, lol!
    I agree with you Nez, No matter what your political views are, or how you feel about a country. There is no place for that kind of post on this forum. Not only that but that threat could have easily be taken as a threat to Americans, some people, I swear!

    I agree about the sneaky advertising too, but I ignore it and not answer to it, and hope management will let them know it's wrong..

    By the way, you posted two pictures, but all I get is an 'x' where the picture should be. Is this a system problem, or did management take the picture out? I know I did not change my computer and internet setup and should receive all pictures.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 06:27 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Bizygurl, your attachments don't seem to be working.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 06:28 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chery
    I agree about the sneaky advertising too, but I ignore it and not answer to it, and hope management will let them know it's wrong..

    Chery, I find it's best to use the "Report Inappropriate Post" link for these issues. That way the mods can ban the user and/or remove the posts.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 06:32 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Chery, I find it's best to use the "Report Inappropriate Post" link for these issues. That way the mods can ban the user and/or remove the posts.

    That's what We did earlier this week. Some guy came on here and posted the same advertsing thread 3 times. We told him on the first one it was not allowed here and asked him nicely to stop - so he posted it 2 more times and his response was just business. Nez reported him and PM'd me to let me know he had done so - which was a good job as I was about to do it. Curlyben banned him instantly.
  • Jan 25, 2006, 06:35 AM
    Curlyben
    If there's any problems like that the best thing to do is Report the post as a reply just bumps it on the New Post list.
    If you want to follow it up drop Rickj, psi42, crocivic, the Admins or I a PM and we'll see what can be done.

    Normally tho' I'm around quite a bit and catch most of them, but I can't remove the posts. That's for Rickj and the Admins, but a report will let them know anyway.

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