For the record, Jewish doctors and other emergency personnel do work on the Sabbath. Saving a life comes before the Law.
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For the record, Jewish doctors and other emergency personnel do work on the Sabbath. Saving a life comes before the Law.
Um do you deny that both Christianity and the Islam are built on the Old Testament and that the Old Testament is part the Christian's Bible and the Islamic Koran?Quote:
Originally Posted by 31pumpkin
While its true that the extent and nature of holding the Sabbath holy has changed in those subsequent religions, the concept of holding the Sabbath holy has not.
I am not sure about Islam but I can speak for Christianity. I think what 31pumpkin is referring to is that since the NT came along Jesus fulfilled the Sabbath (actually the OT law). Christians no longer observe it as a ritual of not working, no cooking, or whatever else the law for the Sabbath brings. I guess some may, I shouldn't speak for every Christian but in general.Quote:
Um do you deny that both Christianity and the Islam are built on the Old Testament and that the Old Testament is part the Christian's Bible and the Islamic Koran?
You are correct. Even though Christians do not hold the Sabbath in a ritualistic way, it doesn't take away that God does want us to take some time to rest. I think this should be taken seriously since in this day and age we are so rushed and don't seem to take the time for family. I know, I catch myself doing this also.Quote:
While its true that the extent and nature of holding the Sabbath holy has changed in those subsequent religions, the concept of holding the Sabbath holy has not.
Exactly, Are not Christians encouraged (required?) to go to church on Sundays?Quote:
Originally Posted by jduke44
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Originally Posted by ScottGem
Apples to Oranges! What's doing something for one hr. got to do with NOT DOING something for 24 hrs. And more, if u want to include that leaving work early thing on a Friday to? :eek:
I am not sure what side this would prove. If I am understanding your questionQuote:
Exactly, Are not Christians encouraged (required?) to go to church on Sundays?
Correctly most Christians are encouraged to go. Some churches because of the status of the people (elders, deacons) are required. I try to go every Sunday but view it as a time to re-energize my senses and body. It is like rest to me.
Would you go on to a synogogue on the Sabbath or is that forbidden also? My Jewish law is a little rusty. Actually after reading these posts, my Jewish law was never really there :p .
If I missed your point then let me know.
My point was simply that Christians do follow the commandment to Remember the Sabbath day to set it apart as holy. The difference is simply to what extent. And yes, Jews do go to Synagogue. Actually they go both Friday night and again on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by jduke44
How can you say apples to oranges? The issue is the commandment to remember the Sabbath day. And you show your ignorance. Jewish holidays go from sundown to sundown. So the Sabbath starts sundown on Friday and ends sundown on Saturday. That's your 24 hours. If jews leave work early on Fridays its to make sure they are home before sundown.Quote:
Originally Posted by 31pumpkin
Then I guess you and I are on the same page with this one.Quote:
My point was simply that Christians do follow the commandment to Remember the Sabbath day to set it apart as holy. The difference is simply to what extent. And yes, Jews do go to Synagogue. Actually they go both Friday night and again on Saturday.
We just don't take it to the point where we won't work in the yard or anything like that.
Remember hearing about the days when stores weren't even open on Sundays? You never ever see that happen again. I even see stores open on Thanksgiving and Christmas lately. Although if you don't celebrate Christmas I guess it would be OK.
Don't try to go shopping in Paramus, NJ on a Sunday. All stores are closed. They continue to enforce what we call the "blue laws".Quote:
Originally Posted by jduke44
How can you say apples to oranges? The issue is the commandment to remember the Sabbath day. And you show your ignorance. Jewish holidays go from sundown to sundown. So the Sabbath starts sundown on Friday and ends sundown on Saturday. That's your 24 hours. If jews leave work early on Fridays its to make sure they are home before sundown.[/QUOTE]
Sundown, sundown... Sunrise, sunset... You're right... I'd pretty much have to be Jewish to know that! But I'm one of those "cool" people from N.Y. :D
Actually no. I don't believe you WOULD need to be jewish to know that. Especially being from NY. How many times have news media reported that x jewish holiday begins at sundown? Many calendars list jewish holidays as starting at sundown. I'm sure a large percentage of Gentiles would be aware of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by 31pumpkin
While I don't claim to be a religious expert, I think its clear that I have some knowledge of other religions. I don't think one can effectively comment about something without at least some knowledge of it.
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Originally Posted by ScottGem
No, I consulted with some Gentile friends up there and NO, they never heard of any of those things you mentioned.
I have enough knowledge of the Jewish peoples plight and the old testament to comment on the actual question in the 1st place.
Just because YOU THINK my comments not effective, doesn't mean that they aren't, AND that YOURS are. Ego
You claim to "have" some knowledge of other religions. Well, then why has the PENTECOST escaped you, ScotGem (this we know) if your so smart!? For all your "knowledge" tell us, where are you really headed!
Like I said, I have "some" knowledge and don't claim to be an expert. As far as your Gentile friends, sounds like "birds of a feather..."
Again your comments show a lack of knowledge and tolerance for other religions. That's why your comments are neither effective or accurate.
What about the Pentecost? What has that got to do with what has been discussed here?
No, it has to do what will be discussed between YOU and your "lack of Religion" on judgment day. Your " dead" self-spirit will be thoughly judged... I can tell. And the poison you bring to the others. Oh HELL! When you
Get down there, don't forget to shout out through the flames of what a BIG MAN you are! :p
To all participants,
As this thread has gone so far off course from the original question I'm closing it.
Thank you.
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