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  • Jan 6, 2013, 01:36 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    It's scary to think about, isnt it.

    That's where role-playing comes in, to do a try-out with someone first.

    I never said that. Another counselor won't either.

    I will try something else phone calling just isn't working for me.. I'll do a walk-in .

    Good news I'm going to UPS tomorrow to speak to a hiring manager, the day after is a hiring fair for aldi that I am ready for.
    And I am feeling somewhat good.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 03:10 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by despicableme View Post
    I will try something else phone calling just isn't working for me.. I'll do a walk-in.

    I had gotten to know a young woman through a chat web site. She lived in NY State, and I'm from there, so we discovered we had lots to chat about. She was depressed, had a frustrated husband and two young kids, and she knew she needed to get help. She and I eventually talked so that she made an appointment with a nearby counselor, but she was scared to go. I sent her my photo (for courage and inspiration?) which she carried in her purse or pocket and looked at on her way to the counselor and even as she opened the office door. She spent a number of happy sessions with that counselor and when the counselor moved, my friend slid into a relationship with a new counselor. All that must have helped because she was able to relocate with her family to NC and find a job she liked down there and also join a church (she had formerly disliked social situations). I've lost track of her, but am guessing she is doing fine or will seek out counseling again, if needed.

    Where do you plan to do this walk-in thing?
    Quote:

    Good news I'm going to UPS tomorrow to speak to a hiring manager, the day after is a hiring fair for aldi that I am ready for. And I am feeling somewhat good.
    And please let me (us) know how that goes! I will be here cheering for you.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 10:41 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I had gotten to know a young woman through a chat web site. She lived in NY State, and I'm from there, so we discovered we had lots to chat about. She was depressed, had a frustrated husband and two young kids, and she knew she needed to get help. She and I eventually talked so that she made an appointment with a nearby counselor, but she was scared to go. I sent her my photo (for courage and inspiration?) which she carried in her purse or pocket and looked at on her way to the counselor and even as she opened the office door. She spent a number of happy sessions with that counselor and when the counselor moved, my friend slid into a relationship with a new counselor. All that must have helped because she was able to relocate with her family to NC and find a job she liked down there and also join a church (she had formerly disliked social situations). I've lost track of her, but am guessing she is doing fine or will seek out counseling again, if needed.

    Where do you plan to do this walk-in thing?

    And please let me (us) know how that goes! I will be here cheering for you.

    Maybe this?

    Mental Health Resources - Milwaukee

    Don't really know for sure.

    Or maybe I'll say f-it and sleep all day. Don't know.

    I don't remember but I found it somewhere. Forgot where it's located.. that I saw online. That young woman is strong.. wouldn't have done it. Too, lazy, no motivation, apathy, etc..

    I read this. Nearly broke down.

    "Very poor self image benefits from harbouring within the unconscious thoughts stored negative memories of abuse, neglect, humiliation, rejection etc. that depart 1 feeling unworthy, insufficient, needy, ineffective, poor, unattractive, stupid, weak, and so on. Usually people today who come to feel these strategies tend to shy away from usual and open intimate relationships out of a concern of getting other people find out how faulty they by themselves feel they are."

    Don't understand though because had a decent life no abuse or unfavorable conditions.. The only memory of abuse, neglect, humiliation and rejection is what I cause myself because always felt unworthy and inadequate, like I'm broken or something.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 10:44 PM
    Wondergirl
    I like the sound of the counseling offered on that link you posted.

    Do you remember when you started feeling the way you do about yourself?
  • Jan 6, 2013, 10:47 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by despicableme View Post
    That young woman is strong..wouldn't have done it. Too, lazy, no motivation, apathy, etc.

    I didn't mention how many months she and I had talked before she was even willing to consider going to a counselor. Her husband was getting ready to divorce her and take the kids with him, so that pushed her into thinking my way a bit.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 10:53 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I like the sound of the counseling offered on that link you posted.

    Do you remember when you started feeling the way you do about yourself?

    Don't know beginning of high school middle-school? Can't really remember. I had a couple of meltdowns in both.. middle school had more humiliating events, high school more anxiety and low self esteem.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 10:54 PM
    Wondergirl
    What caused the meltdowns? Humiliating events?
  • Jan 6, 2013, 10:55 PM
    despicableme
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I didn't mention how many months she and I had talked before she was even willing to consider going to a counselor. Her husband was getting ready to divorce her and take the kids with him, so that pushed her into thinking my way a bit.

    Oh goodness that's simply horrible. Now that's something to be depressed about. That's her children too for goodness sake! Reading that wonderful she was able to get the help she needed.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:09 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What caused the meltdowns? humiliating events?

    I don't know stress I suppose?

    Bladder problems peeded on myself in middle school wore a diaper and some a-hole panteds me in front of everyone. Had my period come I front of my entire class, chair and pants had blood stains, everyone knew it was me and lost my only friend then, gotten bettter, took a picture of myself naked picture for this boy I had liked in school ended up showing it to all his friends and a couple of girls to show how ugly and fat I was. Had to suck him and a bunch of friends or he'll put it online. Forgot that part. Ended up getting his phone breaking it in half and deleting the picture ended up moving to a different school thank god... and some other stuff.. that was mostly my fault..
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:21 PM
    despicableme
    Started becoming fatter once I hit my freshman year in highscool, eveyone was so pretty and had wonderful friends.. evne the bigger girls had this confidence I never seemed to have.. gotten up to 190 pounds.. and now lo and behold I am 220... missed plenty of social events, failed many classes but because I never caused trouble some teachers let me slide.. with a D mostly social isolation during high school.. had some friends during the middle of junior and senior year but dirfted part once graduation. *shrugs*
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:29 PM
    Wondergirl
    You mentioned that teachers liked you because you were careful and did your best in many of the classes, especially the classes where there were hands-on activities.

    Did you ever mention any of the problems in school to your parents? How did teachers deal with some of this stuff?
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:29 PM
    despicableme
    ..
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:32 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You mentioned that teachers liked you because you were careful and did your best in many of the classes, especially the classes where there were hands-on activities.

    Did you ever mention any of the problems in school to your parents? How did teachers deal with some of this stuff?

    Mhm, the classes that were hands-on if I had to do any sort of presentations or had to talk I mostly failed .The hands on ones I did pretty well and liked. I felt confident.

    Teachers didn't do crap. Don't like talking to my parents at all becaue I could handle it. I'm not dead am I? So didn't need their help. School was really ghetto until they merged with the other schools inside the building Their were other things to worry about like people taking guns to school or fights, drugs aka weed, and low test scores.
    Overall it was pretty decent.. high school had the robotics club that I liked it was fun. And some deca stuff.still hated myself but school was no time for that and did not and I repeat-did not want people asking me what's wrong if I started having meltdowns I went into the bathrooms for that or took it out on school work I didn't do.

    Up's and downs good times bad times.. had friends lost 'em depressed and then clam the self hated then depressed again stuff like that I handled it sometimes I didn't. Didn't want to cut or w.e so I used rubberbands.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:33 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by despicableme View Post
    Teachers didn't do crap. Don't like talking to my parents at all becaue I could handle it. I'm not dead am I? so didn't need their help.

    And all worked out so well then...

    And here we are, you and me.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:45 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And all worked out so well then....

    And here we are, you and me.

    Yes, worked out very well. 'm not dead so that means I'm strong right? I have no aversion to suicide at all if people want to kill themselves fine I won't stop them unless I like them of course but no matter how bad it got with me I could escape with my sleep, books, internet, and food like I do now. It's too much effort to kil yourself and too lazy for that
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:57 PM
    despicableme
    All of this is stupid.. I made all of these pages you taking your time out to help me and for what? If I can just get a job I will be fine past will be forgotten and then I can see the guy online that I want too for so long. And after I see him, lose weight go to the military and live happily ever after.
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:57 PM
    Wondergirl
    Well, it's my bedtime, so please report back after your job fair and let us know how it went. I wish you the best with the ones you are most interested in!
  • Jan 6, 2013, 11:58 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Well, it's my bedtime, so please report back after your job fair and let us know how it went. I wish you the best with the ones you are most interested in!

    m'kay
  • Jan 7, 2013, 03:46 PM
    despicableme
    UPS ended up being a no go it's 2 hours away from my house..
  • Jan 7, 2013, 04:00 PM
    Wondergirl
    That's too bad. Anything else look hopeful?
  • Jan 7, 2013, 04:42 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    That's too bad. Anything else look hopeful?

    Today, no not really. Wondergirl what should I do with myself? I don't even know anymore. I managed to be able to call one job asking for the status of my application. He said he'll look it over but I'm not hopeful. All I want is just a job doing anything. And everything requires experience.

    Don't even know what to do about getting a college degree
  • Jan 7, 2013, 05:52 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by despicableme View Post
    Today, no not really. Wondergirl what should I do with myself? I don't even know anymore. I managed to be able to call one job asking for the status of my application. He said he'll look it over but I'm not hopeful. All I want is just a job doing anything. And everything requires experience.

    Did you check at any libraries near you about shelving books?
    Quote:

    Don't even know what to do about getting a college degree
    Is there a community college near you?
  • Jan 8, 2013, 12:15 AM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Did you check at any libraries near you about shelving books?

    Is there a community college near you?

    About the library no> And the community yes

    Ima go to the hiring fair today tell you how it went. Sleepy
  • Jan 8, 2013, 08:47 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by despicableme View Post
    About the library no> And the community college yes

    ima go tot he hiring fair today tell you how it went. sleepy

    It went OK.. turned in my application and said he'll call to set up an appointment if they see a fit.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:08 PM
    despicableme
    Can't believe it is this hard to find a job doing anything. Can't even get a reply from any fast-food places. That's suppose to be a job everyone can get right? Then these warehouse, factory jobs want 3 years exp, where the heck can I find volunteer experience for that? Going to these temp agencies are no help. You can't go in and apply anymore they accept "resumes" now. Then you call these people everyday to see if they have any jobs available.. they never do. Hell these other jobs that I do qualify for are way to far away. There's nothing in Milwaukee. Can't apply as a waiter or server because I know I'm not suited for that type of job. All of this is bull and hopeless..

    I'm just going to start lying. I got nothing else to lose if I get fired then I'm back right where I am now, an unemployed loser.
    If I could move I damn sure would but with no money I don't know. Wouldn't mind sleeping in a shelter, hell should sleep on the ground if I could just get out of Wisconsin. I seriously hate it here.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    You have a resume.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:24 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You have a resume.

    And? Seriously, it makes no difference at all. Wondergirl. Millions other other people have a resume and work experience. There's no way I can make it.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:27 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by despicableme View Post
    And? Seriously, it makes no difference at all. Wondergirl. Millions other other people have a resume and work experience. There's no way I can make it.

    Have you given your resume to any workplace? Are you applying to places nearby that you can get to easily? There may be openings that aren't advertised. What part of Milwaukee are you in?

    Have you asked at the reference desk at your library for more job-hunting help?
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:35 PM
    despicableme
    Oh. Thought you just suppose to apply online. I went around a few places I wanted to work in and they told me just to apply online and their not taking resumes. Only applied to mostly chain stores. I live in the area where all the black people are concentrated.. somewhat of the "hood" area. And for your last question, No. Haven't not been to the library in years, couldn't seem to step inside once I lost that book.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:38 PM
    Wondergirl
    Girl!! I so want to drive up there!!

    You apply anywhere and everywhere, job ad or no job ad. Job hunting is a full-time job in itself. Fill out applications, staple your very nice resume to it (printed out on nice paper, if possible), and check back periodically (which means you keep a good list of where you applied and when). Job hunting is WORK!

    What about getting into community college with a course or two, so you can call yourself a student, and then apply at the library. (Check with the library to find out if there is a course requirement number or if one is good enough.)
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:46 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Girl!!! I so want to drive up there!!!!

    You apply anywhere and everywhere, job ad or no job ad. Job hunting is a full-time job in itself. Fill out applications, staple your very nice resume to it (printed out on nice paper, if possible), and check back periodically (which means you keep a good list of where you applied and when). Job hunting is WORK!

    Jesus. Ok. Ok. I'm sorry. I wished I had somebody to go with me all my sisters are unemployed except one and they do the same thing I do. -.- Would go stand in front of the store than chicken out. I'm stupid. Lost a couple of interviews that way too phone & in person. LOL Makes me sick how anxious I am/was.

    Guess, I have to do that. Why does this have to be so difficult?
  • Jan 8, 2013, 09:59 PM
    Wondergirl
    No, no, no -- NOT difficult. You have a knock-'em-dead resume. Think of all the new people you will meet and possibly new friends you will make. Like when I had breast cancer and got to meet other patients and doctors and nurses and cute young aides who bounced around the hospital like puppies and learned tons about cancer and tumor markers and antigens and grays of radiation and the Canadian protocol. I even wrote stories about all my adventures and read a few of them to the library writers' group I had started.

    Positive spin time for you!!
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:02 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    No, no, no -- NOT difficult. You have a knock-'em-dead resume. Think of all the new people you will meet and possibly new friends you will make. Like when I had breast cancer and got to meet other patients and doctors and nurses and cute young aides who bounced around the hospital like puppies and learned tons about cancer and tumor markers and antigens and grays of radiation and the Canadian protocol. I even wrote stories about all my adventures and read a few of them to the library writers' group I had started.

    Positive spin time for you!!!

    Wow. Time for me to shut up! You had breast cancer? Damn I'm sorry about that. You got any stories saved so I can read 'em? You're going through that and here I am complaining. I feel foolish. o.o
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:10 PM
    Wondergirl
    No, not at all foolish. You are learning from a wise old woman who has job hunted more than once. :)

    So tomorrow, you will put on your walking shoes and get out there with a handful of resumes?
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:18 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    No, not at all foolish. You are learning from a wise old woman who has job hunted more than once. :)

    So tomorrow, you will put on your walking shoes and get out there with a handful of resumes?

    Bah. I have to right? Lol. So before I print them all out how will I tailor them to certain positions? Retail, fast food, warehouse etc?
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:21 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by despicableme View Post
    Bah. I have to right? lol. So before I print them all out how will I tailor them to certain positions? Retail, fast food, warehouse ect?

    I think it's general enough you don't have to do that. As long as you don't add an Objective at the top (useless and limiting), you're good to go with just that one version. Try it for a few days and see what it does for you along with submitting an app at each place. Be sure to tell me about the happy smiles you see appearing on people's faces.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:26 PM
    Wondergirl
    Are we good with this one (final version)? Please add your correct information, by the way.

    ABBY LANE
    123 North Avenue
    Oshkosh, WI 12345
    (555) 555-5555
    [email protected]

    SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS

    Offer professional-quality administrative assistant skills and an excellent work ethic
    Am responsible, punctual, dependable, and have excellent time-management skills.
    Quickly comprehend and follow established procedures and safety rules
    Work well independently and and in a team environment
    Possess very strong problem-solving skills
    Have basic computer knowledge (Word, Excel, PhotoShop) and am teaching myself JavaScript, HTML, and Python


    SPECIAL PROJECTS
    Robotics competition -- helped build robot, worked with various saws, drill presses, measuring tape, and other tools/equipment in the high school metal shop.
    * Made sure everyone worked at high-safety levels when using various dangerous tools
    * Focused on high degree of accuracy when measuring with ruler and measuring tape to cut the right amount of materials, used special markers to note where to drill holes, made sure all parts were correctly located
    * Communicated effectively with classmates and faculty to create and draw plan for robot

    Warehouse worker/Package handler, Wisconsin Food Harvest
    * Coordinated with other workers to package foods into the correct containers and label them correctly
    * Ensured all food was stacked neatly on pallets before being moved by forklift

    DECA member (international association of high school and college students and teachers of marketing, management, and entrepreneurship in business, finance, hospitality, and marketing sales and service) -- dressed professionally, learned about entrepreneurship and careers in hospitality/tourism/business/finance, played team building/leadership exercises, practiced job interviewing, met with high-level professionals for connections to jobs.

    Fund raising -- worked with two classmates to obtain funding for the high school principal for a new cooking room

    WORK HISTORY
    Child care -- implement parents' rules, gently discipline as necessary, engage them in specific learning activities, dispense medication per parents' instructions, feed them as needed, put them to bed as requested, help with other household chores.

    Newspaper delivery – sorted and stuffed newspapers before delivery, distributed to residences on a designated route and on schedule, engaged in monetary transactions with customers and central newspaper office, maintained customer accounts.

    EDUCATION
    ABC High School, Oshkosh, WI (2008)
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:27 PM
    despicableme
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I think it's general enough you don't have to do that. As long as you don't add an Objective at the top (useless and limiting), you're good to go with just that one version. Try it for a few days and see what it does for you along with submitting an app at each place. Be sure to tell me about the happy smiles you see appearing on people's faces.

    LOL You are one funny woman. Ok, I will do just as you say. Now today people are recruiting for Marcus Hotel. I think housekeeping. I will give the recruiter my-I mean our resume. And today, another Ups orientation thingy this time only an hour away so I can go! XD
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:28 PM
    despicableme
    And yes we are. I can finish it at the goodwill center.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 10:31 PM
    Wondergirl
    Be sure to put the bolding and italics in where I did to make it look spiffy.

    I will be with you in spirit. If you feel a nudge, it'll be me. :)

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