I want to know the conditions in which suiside is not haram??
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I want to know the conditions in which suiside is not haram??
Our Muslim members are not online right now. I did find this --
"There are a few quite specific sanctions expressed in the Quraan against self-killing. The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) also assigns suicide to the lower levels of Hell. Allah says explicitly in the Quraan, "And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you". (Surah An-Nisa Verse 29). In another verse of the Quraan, Allah says: "And do not throw yourselves in destruction". (Surah Al-Baqarah Verse 195)."
And later --
"If one is thinking of committing suicide he should think about his friends and family, then he should turn to Allah and ask for his help. Talking to the Scholars and others would also help. Confidential information is also available through your GP. Many centres also offer help for people in these troubled times.
May Allah save us from this sin and give us all guidance to the straight path. May Allah save us from all types of grief and give us all entrance into Paradise."
Please read all of this, especially the last sections --
Suicide as seen in Islam
But if there is something wrong happened with you and you are unable to share this to your family, specially your parents and you know that they can't bear it.
Would they bear news of suicide and always questioning why any easier? People tend to blame themselves when someone kills themselves, especially their own kid.
If any thing happened wrong with any girl then what she will do?? I don't want to cheat anyone... I can't marry any one... not even I cheated anyone in my entire life.. I m just a burden on my family and my sisiters.. I m daily feel guilty because I think how I shall kill myself... I love someone who cheated me.. and not he just broke my heart only he broke me and my soul... no one will trust me that it was an accidient I would'nt allow him to touch me... but I was unable to stop him... he didn't rape me but it was something like that...
Yes I know that news hurt them... that's y I'm thinking to attempt a suiside in a way that eveyone thought that is an accidient.. I m sick of my life
What are you dealing with that is so unbearable? There are solutions, maybe we can help find them
I have a last chance to talk to his mother, but I never met her before... I don't know she believes me or not... I m just worry that if she told the whole story to my family.. my parents start hating myself... nothing is left in my life... no on is there to whom I share my problems...
I never talk to any one about this.. I feel I lost my virganity.. even that's not my fault but there is not anotherway... and I want to kill myself and some times I also wish to kill him... why GOD don't protect me that day ;(
Who will believe me that was an accidient even he committed that he will marry me... but day by day he becomes rude with me and know he wish that I will marry another man... I don't know what I will do... I just cried daily even I stop eating,drinking,sleeping... my life is comletely destroyed and disturbed... he said that he has a family problems but I'm also his responsibility...
You trusted a man who forced himself on you, sort of, not quite rape?
Sometimes yes the line is blurred.
If you are young and naïve and this man talked and talked and made you believe he loved you, and you were enjoying it, and suddenly he was all over you and on top of you and you said no, that is rape.
Tell us more. We are total strangers.
Any one who can help me please text me
I would start by telling my mom that this guy promised to marry me. Can you at least start with that?
From what I understand of herQuote:
Originally Posted by joypulv
Virginity she has to be put to death so the family does not lose face
Obviously she is afraid to tell anyone for that very reason, shame on her and her whole family, whether they just put her in a back room or throw her out on the street.
You should charge him with RAPE in your culture, for forcing himself on you!
And promising to marry you!
Sad her culture doesn't see it that way
What will I do... I'm living with a guilt from last three years... I can't sleep well.. y God said in Quran that men and women are equal while he don't even made them equal... I lost everything but he lost nothing... I cried whole night... always pray for justise... but God don't listen to me
There is not another way for me... I m in search of poison.. I asked some of my friends to provide me but they refused and asked me the reason... I can't tell them the bitter truth of my life
... is there any way through which I got my varganity back...
Maybe it is a secret that you must keep and never be with a man that can tell on you. Would that work?
What country are you in?
I think I understand!
1- You were raped 3 years ago.
2- You are ashamed to tell your family. Or, you won't tell because, your family won't understand for some reason. Or they might think it's your fault. Or?
3- Now, you want to commit suicide because you feel guilty for some reason.
I think she feels guilty, and wants to get this off her chest. But can't tell anyone?
If you can't tell your family, then tell a friend you trust. Friends aren't supposed to judge you; they should be your 2nd support system.
She is a Muslim in a Muslim area where women who are not virgins before marriage are condemned, ostracized, useless, thrown out on the street, sometimes killed, or put away in a back room.
I hope you can LEAVE the country - do you have relatives anywhere who will take you in?
YepThat's why I asked what country she is in. If her family is in a country where she can get away then maybe start a new life.
There is a surgery that can repair the hymen, if an intact hymen is what you consider virginity. But, once you've had sex you are no longer a virgin, and even if you could get the surgery (which I doubt is even a possibility if you live in a country where the muslim religion is by law the only religion) you still wouldn't be an actual virgin, you would just be able to pass as one on your wedding night.Quote:
Originally Posted by marium6
Did this man rape you? You seem to skirt around that question. Rape is when a man forces sex on you, against your will. From what you've written, it sounds like you had a relationship with this man, and you allowed him to talk you into having sex because of promises of marriage.
If he did rape you, surely there are laws against that in your religion.
“She is a Muslim in a Muslim area where women who are not virgins before marriage are condemned, ostracized, useless, thrown out on the street, sometimes killed, or put away in a back room.”
Oh! That I didn't know. And it kind of clears some fog, but seriously? She is the victim here people.
I still don't get why she has to be the one who has to live in shame and despair (this was her question from before).
“YepThat's why I asked what country she is in.”
“If he did rape you, surely there are laws against that in your religion.”
They don't work MOST of the time. I think those bad people who rape others cover their tracks by bribing the police. I found an article about this online probably 7/8 months ago (I have 2 Muslim friends so I get interested). I think that incident was in Afghanistan.
It's really tragic.
I'm from pakistan... but it is like a hell there are so mny girls who abuse by the man but they can't tell and share this to any one bcoz every one in our country blame the girls
I can't afford the surgery, I belonged to the middle class family... in which country there is a possibility of having surgery??
Yes, we hear and see and read about this on the news... but I'm not sure the press knows how much of this goes on.Quote:
Originally Posted by marium6
Some is rape, some is promises. Men want sex and they want virgins to marry, and once they have had sex with a woman she is no good to marry, so they leave her, abuse her, or worse.
I wish you could LEAVE the area and go somewhere where you are appreciated for who you are.
At the end I don't have any option to live a happy life;(
I wish I could bring you to the US.
I don't have a money to move from one city to another.. how could I visit US.
Yes you need to get to the usa where you can get protection and a new identity. If you are able let us know and we will help
I'm doing masters from karachi university this is my last semester... I hope I will get job after degree... if I got job in us it will convinent for me... but it take 6 months
Hang in there and do not tell anybody. Pray to God. God forgives and He knows Its not your fault to bare the shame of an evil system that would allow víctims to be killed.
Hello Marium,
Suicide the biggest sin in islam open the first link, You need to be strong and pray to God forgives, sugeest to party Astaghfar open the second link, wish you all the best and may Allah give you the strenth to keep you from this sin, good luck.
Suicide and Islam - A Deeper Perspective
Dua Astaghfar (Forgiveness) | Hadith of the Day
Repairing the hymen does not return virginity. That's my problem with this thread.
I am also concerned with the "God doesn't hear me" statements.
I think some counseling is in order - and I don't know what's available in Muslim countries, unfortunately.
This is not just about virginity. It's about loss of self esteem, guilt - whatever goes along with that.
And to the OP - I am the adult survivor of rape. The guilt (and in my case it was forced sex, no agreement on my part, I got bruised and battered resisting) went on for a very long time. You need to find a way to "forgive" yourself - and I put forgive in quotes deliberately. It's not a good word in this situation, but it fits.
Marium, when do you get your degree?
Look at it this way any attempt to put your life in risk at any condition is haram no question asked.
Maybe u can kill yourself in a way that every one think it was an accident but there is nothing hidden from God.
Keeping your God satisfy of yourself is more important than not to upset family and friends remember only the God knows what is the best for us and will never leave you alone.
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