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  • Mar 4, 2008, 09:58 AM
    dierdre
    How do you earn money online?
    I want to know how to earn money online with no investment whatsoever because those so-called "membership fees" are just ways for these "moneymaking gurus" to earn online for themselves. In other words,they are scamming other people. So aside from paid surveys which are very limited for people like me who live in asia, PTR,PTC sites, affiliate marketing, how can I earn money online? Paid to write perhaps? Or is there an "online job" that I haven't heard of yet? I want to earn at least $100 a month. Any suggestion will be welcome. Thanks.
  • Mar 4, 2008, 10:09 AM
    O_Troubles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dierdre
    i wanna know how to earn money online with no investment whatsoever coz those so-called "membership fees" are just ways for these "moneymaking gurus" to earn online for themselves. in other words,they are scamming other people. so aside from paid surveys which are very limited for people like me who live in asia, PTR,PTC sites, affiliate marketing, how can i earn money online? paid to write perhaps? or is there an "online job" that i havent heard of yet? i wanna earn at least $100 a month. any suggestion will be welcome. thanks.

    Well I'm not sure if you can really make money online. Most of the survays or quizzes or w.e. they have now, have the membership fees or thoes buy 12$ for one sponcer to get $300. BS. I could suggest if your looking for about 100$ and you obviously want to work at home on your computer mabie get a work at home job? They do have jobs at firms and offices where they need extra work done and they would hire you depending on your qualifications. You would go pick up papers or they would e-mail then and you job would be re typing them in certain formats or the first stage of a 5 person proof reading. Again depends on your qualifcations... hope I helped P.S. if you live in asia and are bi-lingual translating can be done from your home its easy and you get a very flexable time limit and they pay well
  • Mar 4, 2008, 04:39 PM
    TechEmperor
    If you live in asia find something near you that you can buy for cheap, stuff from the Jade Market in hong kong is perfect if you happen to live near there. Now, buy a few bucks worth of it, just a couple if things at first. Make sure they are NICE. Maybe do some research first. Put the items up on E-Bay for 5-10x what you paid for them. Generally some dumb american will buy them from you and pay shipping. Of course you have to craft your auction well so that people can find it and all... but if you are in a country with a low cost of living and you have internet access you can make a lot of money selling local crafts across e-bay for american money.
  • Mar 4, 2008, 04:52 PM
    dierdre
    Oh I don't live in hongkong, actually I live in the philippines, well I haven't tried bidding or selling anything online yet, I am actually looking to spend my free time online earning money, I think affiliate marketing earns you a substantial amount but to complicated for me, I guess, how am I going to get referrals? Is there an easy way to earn money here? Hehe. I tried visiting genuinejobs.com, its just that there are LOTS of listings over there, I'm not finished studying yet so I don't know if I can qualify.hmm..
  • Mar 4, 2008, 10:02 PM
    morgaine300
    "Affiliating marketing" is probably more BS.

    So what do you do -- what are you studying? I actually do work online, but it's a real job, I'm a W-2 employee with taxes taken out and all that, I have set work hours, and I'm utilizing my degree and experience. I also got very lucky.

    eBay... eh, hem, which I'm busy boycotting... is a way to pick up some extra money, but unlike most people think, it's not an easy way to make money. Most people selling on there, at least the good sellers, work very hard. It can take a lot of work and time to build a good business on there. (And I guarantee you that eBay is making it more and more difficult for the smaller sellers.) And it's not "dumb Americans" you want to attract. Dumb buyers are a pain in the rear. Learn what you're doing, do it right, and try to attract the smart buyers. (i.e. hang around Seller Central on the forums.) There's also a myriad of other online selling/auction places like that, but I'm only familiar with Amazon. (Selling internationally on there is not cost-effective.)

    I think it's better to know first what you can do, then find a way to do it online, rather than just doing "whatever" cause it happens to be online. You need to be careful to avoid the BS and the schemes and find a real job. Treat the internet as another venue to do real work, not just an easy way to earn money. Most of the job-search sites will have freelance, self-employment and/or online sections, but you must be very careful with these, because a good chunk of it is BS.
  • Mar 4, 2008, 11:15 PM
    TechEmperor
    I can make 100$ a month off eBay buying mis-spelled auctions and selling the same item with proper spelling. He's not talking about getting rich, he's talking about making beer money.
  • Mar 9, 2008, 10:25 AM
    dierdre
    Well I'm actually taking up computer science.. the idea of being an "online translator" crossed my mind since I'm fluent in both languages, english and tagalog so I might profit from that. I don't know if it requires a college degree though.. regarding eBay though I can't think of anything to sell there right now, and I have this notion that to make a substantial income from eBay, you have to sell something unique or rare, ancient even, like those big vinyl records? LOL we have plenty of those before but my mom gave it away to streetkids..
  • Mar 9, 2008, 04:27 PM
    TechEmperor
    No, to make 100$ a month off eBay you just have to sell 100 items a month for a 1$ profit. Anything that is a native craft will work. What kind of stuff do people make out there?
  • Mar 10, 2008, 10:04 AM
    Da Bigchamp
    Technicalyy speaking, there is no "investment-free" money making plan on the internet, you have to give some to make some. The quizzes may work but that would take you too long to make money.
  • Mar 10, 2008, 04:23 PM
    dierdre
    What kind of stuff? Ah let me think, I see a lot of handicrafts here, not really minding what we exclusively produce here locally, next time I will observe, the only ones I can think of are those dried mangoes for export, they really taste good though. Yup I'm not really a fan of paid survey sites, didn't have much luck with them.since I don't qualify because I'm not from the US.
  • Mar 15, 2008, 01:40 PM
    TechEmperor
    I signed up for it with you as a referrer filip. Looks like it's USA residents only though. And somewhat silly...
  • Mar 17, 2008, 02:45 PM
    vingogly
    A former coworker's brother lost his job and decided to sell (of all things) heavy equipment on eBay; he's now supposedly making a living at it. Be aware that starting a business on eBay is like starting a business anywhere else - you have to have something people want, you have to promote your products on eBay within their rules, and you have to work at it & be patient. It's not an overnight, magic solution, and it's not "easy" money. There are many books on Amazon.com providing guidance on starting an eBay business; I have no idea how good they are. Be wary of the "how to make a million dollars on eBay" sites and books out there - many of them overpromise and don't deliver what they claim to.
  • Mar 18, 2008, 04:14 PM
    dierdre
    Thank you for the advice, I really have no "ebay experience" yet, il propably try eBay.ph because that's eBay philippines, so its much easier to sell stuff there, I can actually meet up with my prospective buyers.
  • Mar 18, 2008, 09:27 PM
    TechEmperor
    I found a few more of those get paid to click on ads sites and wrote up a quick article with a list of all the ones I could find on it. http://www.techemperor.com/2008/03/1...nline-edition/
  • Mar 19, 2008, 04:46 AM
    biggsie
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  • Mar 20, 2008, 10:27 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TechEmperor
    No, to make 100$ a month off of ebay you just have to sell 100 items a month for a 1$ profit. Anything that is a native craft will work. What kind of stuff do people make out there?

    100 items a month is a lot of work.

    But if you're so successful at it without working much, more power to you.
  • Mar 21, 2008, 04:49 PM
    dierdre
    To biggsie and tech emperor, thank you for your links, those were very helpful I don't know which site I'm going to concentrate learning about first! I hope I can be successful earning money on at least one site, hehe.
  • Mar 23, 2008, 12:55 AM
    msk
    I have also been looking for the similar thing and finally ended on one site Guru.com – Find freelancers at the world’s largest online service marketplace. . It's a free lancing site where yo can register and if you are expert in some field you can quote for the work. I haven't tried it yet but still in the process ot studying it and find it a bit sensible. There may be some other similar sites also. Most of the sites ask for money.
  • Mar 23, 2008, 07:27 AM
    vingogly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by msk
    I have also been looking for the similar thing adn finally ended on one site Guru.com – Find freelancers at the world's largest online service marketplace. . Its a free lancing site where yo can register and if you are expert in some field you can quote for the work. I haven't tried it yet but still in the process ot studying it and find it a bit sensible. There may be some other similar sites also. Most of the sites ask for money.

    I agree, Guru.com is a great site for this; so are Elance.com and Sologig.com. For more technical projects there's RentACoder.com. Sologig and RentACoder are free; though Guru and Elance have free options, you really need to paid a fee to bid on the better projects. All these sites are reputable.

    Elance provides a lot of resources for the freelancer, including a community. As a newbie you'll need to bid low to get projects until you can build up a reputation (your employer rates you and vice versa at project end, those with the highest reputation are obviously at an advantage). All these sites except Sologig provide escrow accounts and arbitration processes to provide some protection for both employer and freelancer. Sologig seems to be more of a job posting location, and you work directly with the employer rather than through an escrow.

    Be aware that folks bid world-wide on projects, so one of the downsides to freelancing is that you will be competing against people who are willing to work for an extremely low hourly rate by American/European standards. So you'll see a lot of projects of the "want 100 original articles for one dollar each" type.

    Vasily
  • Mar 23, 2008, 11:16 AM
    msk
    Thanks Mr. vingogly for the information. I will also look into the other sites you have mentioned. What you have mentioned is hundred perent correct. For these jobs one has to build his reputation at initial stage. Since there is lot of cheating on the internet what I think these types of sites are comparatively more safe.
  • Mar 23, 2008, 11:30 AM
    vingogly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by msk
    Since there is lot of cheating on the internet what I think these types of sites are comparatively more safe.

    Note that on Guru, Elance, and RentACoder, freelancers rate their employers... so you can immediately see if any projects posted by an employer have gone into arbitration because they've treated a freelancer unfairly. Or if an employer is posting his/her first project and is therefore an unknown quantity. If you make sure the employer puts the project money in escrow at project start, you have assurance that the employer really has the funds to pay you. The best freelancing sites therefore provide protection for the freelancer as well as the employer!

    Vasily
  • Mar 25, 2008, 03:16 PM
    dierdre
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by msk
    I have also been looking for the similar thing adn finally ended on one site Guru.com – Find freelancers at the world's largest online service marketplace. . Its a free lancing site where yo can register and if you are expert in some field you can quote for the work. I haven't tried it yet but still in the process ot studying it and find it a bit sensible. There may be some other similar sites also. Most of the sites ask for money.

    Thank you for your response,I got to check out the site, it looks "intimidating" though LOL because you have to really specialize in something. I'm still in the process of studying the site as well, I'm concentrating on the writing/translation section.
  • Mar 25, 2008, 03:48 PM
    dierdre
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vingogly
    Note that on Guru, Elance, and RentACoder, freelancers rate their employers ... so you can immediately see if any projects posted by an employer have gone into arbitration because they've treated a freelancer unfairly. Or if an employer is posting his/her first project and is therefore an unknown quantity. If you make sure the employer puts the project money in escrow at project start, you have assurance that the employer really has the funds to pay you. The best freelancing sites therefore provide protection for the freelancer as well as the employer!

    Vasily

    Thank you for your helpful response, do they require resumes? Because I'm not a graduate yet. And what does escrow mean?
  • Mar 25, 2008, 05:32 PM
    vingogly
    You don't strictly speaking have to have a resume but you're selling one or more skills and need to be able to demonstrate you have experience that's relevant for the project you're bidding on. This is typically done on these boards by posting a resume listing experience and providing samples of work (a portfolio). So if you're a freelance writer you'd provide writing samples, if you're a web site designer links to sites you've designed, etc.

    What sort of projects can you bid on? Everything from writing resumes and cover letters to designing web sites and ghostwriting or translating books, ranging from a few dollars to thousands of dollars. The more specific and high-level the skills, the more the project will pay. Here are some examples from RentACoder:

    Post blog comments, 30-50 per week at 30 cents per comment
    Write business plan & feasibility studies, under $100
    Write article for realtor website, under $100
    Write content for four web pages for consulting practice, $500
    Create expandable online marketing application, over $5000
    JAVA/SQL financial software development, over $5000

    So as you can see, there's a wide variety of projects on these boards with the "juiciest" going to those with very specific skills. When the employer hires someone for a project for (say) $500, the money is paid into what's called an "escrow account". Both the employer and the freelancer can see that the money's there for the project (it's a sign of good faith). If the project is successfully completed, the employer releases the money from escrow. If the project is not completed, the employer requests return of the money from escrow.

    Vasily
  • Apr 23, 2008, 01:37 PM
    dierdre
    Oh OK, thanks for your response, since I'm a neophyte with no specific skills or experience, its really hard to get chosen, I sometimes bid at getafreelancer.com and still, no such luck, LOL I have bidden on 4-5 projects. I think the job that I could apply in is proofreading, the easiest of them all, but the competition is tough, LOL
  • Apr 23, 2008, 02:25 PM
    vingogly
    You're right, it's really difficult breaking in... even if you do have the experience! Elance.com has the best support for its members in my opinion, and it's worth getting the free account just to read the forums & post questions. A good suggestion I've seen is: bid for the small projects and bid low at first, which will help you build a reputation. The better projects on Elance and Guru can only be bid by someone with a paying membership.

    There are other options for freelancing out there... but again, starting with no specific skills it will be difficult getting started. Here are a few freelance sites that appear to be professional but I haven't any personal experience with them (I do have a Helium membership, but haven't done anything there yet):

    ContractedWork
    ODesk
    Helium

    There's also a growing market for virtual office assistants; you can make a career of this and get certified. Here are some links:

    Virtual Office Temps
    VANetworking
    International Virtual Assistants Association
    Wikipedia entry on Virtual Assistants
    Virtual Assistant Certification

    I took a teleconference training class and all administrative tasks for the school were handled by a virtual assistant. The Wikipedia article says there are 40-50 thousand worldwide. Again, you need office skills to be able to do this work but it may be worth looking into.

    Vasily

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