Can I get to know d xact location (country / city / street / house num.) of the person who is currently chatting to me?
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Can I get to know d xact location (country / city / street / house num.) of the person who is currently chatting to me?
Simply put NOPE!
Best way to do this is to ask them ;)
What if person on nother side lies where he/she is!
Think for a while and then ans!
Still nope, but it really depends on what app you are chatting on and your access rights.
On normal IM apps then definantly nope, but if you are using an online chat room and you have admin rights then you may be able to see their IP address.
This STILL doesn't tell you exactly where they are.
CurlyBen didn't have to think before answering such a question. His answer was the only answer that can be given.Quote:
Originally Posted by fxjamy
One of the biggest advantages and disadvantages of the Net is its anonymity. The person you are talking to can be anyone from anywhere. You may think you are talking to a 22 year old beauty from the other side of town, but are really talking to a 50 yr old man from another country. Because of this, one can't assume anything. The only time who and where they are matters is when you want to take things offline. And if you do, you should be very careful about it.
Otherwise just take things at face value and focu on the conversation not the alleged person behind it.
There is no way to really know. The police may search and find out what server is being used, but even then they can be on a public computer at a school or internet café. Also a lot of wireless services allow you to connect onto the internet anywhere you have a signal. I often sit in front of variouis business or even peoples homes and connect to the internet when I am traveling.
So even then they would only find the server I am connected to at that time.
That is the trouble even the police have hunting child pronogophy and illegal activities.
So normally unless they are honest with you, you will not know during a normal chat.
If they are registered with the chat server perhaps having to pay for the service with a credit card, then they will know who it is, but you still may not.
In this world, a lot of people lie about who they are, where they are and what they do. So it is always beware and have little trust on things on face value.
I'm not sure but apart from asking him there must be some way to know about the place were the person is , not accuately but approximately by knowing his ip address through the mails the person send, etc.
There is a tracing software which can help you do this. But it does not give u the exact place were the person is, u can search the net for the tracing tools from Google. Hope this will help you
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Originally Posted by STRANGER_OF_UR_DREAMZ
Even if you do find some tracing software and know their E-mail address or IP, this WILL NOT give you the information that you are looking for!!
As has been already mentioned the internet is basically annon and so any personnal information you do find is suspect !
I agree with CurlyBen and Scott. There is no real way to know for sure. Email addresses are very sketchy. For example, one of my web-based email addresses has the server "co.nz" (country New Zealand). I got it because I thought it would be cool to have a New Zealand email. However, I have never been to New Zealand... I live in Canada, on the other side of the world! Sometimes I've used my New Zealand addy in profiles and people think I am in New Zealand and don't believe me when I say I'm in Canada.
My ques was clear to you or not? I asked whether v can find their location (country/city/add) it means anyone of them
Stranger of your dreamz mentions emails as a way of locating someone. I was commenting on that point, saying that it's not very accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by STRANGER_OF_UR_DREAMZ
You needn't be so rude to us... we are just trying to help you, and we do this on our free time. And Scott and CurlyBen really know what they're talking about.
It doesn't matter if your question was clear or not the answer is still the same.
On IP address, mine routes through Holland, my e-mail is a .COM, (based in USA)as well as .PL and .IT even a .DE and I "say" that I come from the UK.
So where do I come from??
There is no need to get all up tight because the answer you have received don't agree with what you think.
After all that is why we ask question, TO LEARN.
I was'nt rude man!
I was repeating ques!
I'm sorry if I hurt your emotions!
K
And I have answered it MORE than once !
Please refer to THIS THREAD
NO there is no way,
http://www.safer-internet.net/noadults/en/chat_2.asp
Do a whois on the IP to get the ISP and you have a location.
Interesting mine still shows as Holland ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
LoL don't let me guess your on Wanadoo! If so its correct you will show as based in Holland on the search. You can get the ISP address on IM but your not going to be able to do anything other than see where the ISP is based.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curlyben
Simple answer is NO ! You can not find a persons country, house number, or any of there personal info as this is a breach of the data protection act that all Euro companys have to up-hold. (( Other countrys please let me know if you have something like this that protects your personal data ))
I worked for a ISP some time ago, and only they can tell whom you are by looking at your Client IP address, say someone keeps sending you nasty emails and you go to the police, they can only trace the ISP -- the police then have to call or fax the ISP to provide the details of that said person... Not even they can see someone straight off.
Orange was also correct you can trace details from emails be seeing where it came from to where it ended up! But this is along winded process and you would really need to know what you where doing.:D
Also people have to see that in this day and age, you can also use a system called gost IP which means that you connect to the net over a massive network from all different countrys, say I'm based in the UK it would show me in USA then direct me to Russia, then Jamaica so on and then with that you ain't got a chance in Hell of finding unless you're a law agency and even then it would take them so months to go over the web.
Wanadoo LOL, nice try NwsFlasH but nope ;)
Fancy double or quits :)
The bit with the E-mails isn't really true as webmail would look like it has come from the servers country of location and not from the person sending it.
As I said I have numerous mail addys and they won't show you where I live.
My primary email is a SaskTel account and shows up as [email protected]. SaskTel is only in Saskatchewan, Canada. However, I have a friend who is overseas at the moment and was able to access and use his SaskTel account from Taiwan! :p So, as CurlyBen says email means nothing as far as location.
Your correct about webmail, it shows as the email companys server, but you can still be seen by the isp as they would have your details when you joined the mail service. Like your name and address so on : -- : :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Curlyben
OK nwsflash how about, internet cafes, work place, unsecured WiFi...
Still won't work ;)
You know as well as I do that IP and e-mail header information is next to useless.
From where I'm sitting right now I can access a server in Germnay and log into my Polish webmail and mail you.
This proves nowt :)
You have a very good point! True by using these means it is hard to trace, If you used these means then you could only probley trace the location say the internet café, but then it would be up to law agencys to take matters forwards to finding a person. And with that I mean using old style police work not computers
Привет Бен. Я знаю где Вы ре. Ваш на Gallifray. :D
不今天, 我搬走了。我當前是在Titan 當我得到更好的連接 ;)
Только имел китайскую пищу, thank you очень
Er,is your time of posting correct.Mine says 12:29pm? :confused:
Damn.it's just moved to 08:29am?
Just noticed that myself, site time seems OK tho' :confused: :eek:
Posted at 20:32 gmt showing 12:32pm Now :(
Perhaps this person has a good reason for lying about where they are. I talk to a friend on instant message all the time that I have never met in real life. No Im not going to tell them where I live right now. I don't know them that well.
I think you hit the nail on the head, we must always think about the rules of been safe online... People can claim to be anybody and from any where in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by crankiebabie
After my first wife passed away, I thought it may be fun to meet some ladies on the internet, I will be honest, I meet some real nut cases
( I hope none think they meet one)
There were many who posted fake photos as to who they were or what they looked like, many lied about age and job.
As a minister religion was real important, almost all lied about that.
Two forgot to mention they were still married, one forgot she was married and still living with her husband.
One forgot to mention she practiced witchcraft and several forgot to mention strange sexual desires and were merely looking for sex partners.
So this was just a regular guy looking for some nice ladies, I know that the ladies will have a lot worst time. ( plus this was about 9 years ago and today the internet is far worst with nut cases)
In general chatting is one thing, who cares where they are at. Getting to be friends and wanting to meet is another issue.
Since I post who I am, and web sites as to where I am, I have had all sorts of nuts stalk me over the years. Because of my very strong pro life and pro family view points and postings on the internet I have had real life stalkers coming to my home and leaving notes in the mail box, people calling where I work, where I go to church and so much more trying to cause trouble.s
As an ex baptist,don't ask,it's a long story,I was always brought up to be honest,and don't lie.My grandmother always said to me,if you tell the truth,no one can catch you out.Thats why I never pretend to be anyone,or "something"? That I'm not.My pic,along with my sis,and brother,somewhere on site,is real,and nearly up to date,as it was taken summer 2005.I never say I'm an astronaut,or a Texan oil billionaire... er,would be a bit silly really,as I live in the UK... but you get the idea.I work in the care field,and am proud of it.It's long hours,rubbish pay,but the people are like family,and we support each other very well.I have a five year old son,and a partner,both of whom I love very much.Never would I do,or say anything to upset the status quo.That's what I like about this site,you can have banter,the odd disagreement,but above all,you can share experiances,and knowledge,with 99% of folks who are simply like you and me :)
While there are programs that claim to be able to do this, they are not accurate. The most you can do is get the person's IP address. The most you can find out from the IP address is the ISP that issued the address. From there you run up against a wall. The record of what IP was assigned to what subscriber is confidential info kept internally at the ISP. Its not traceable.Quote:
Originally Posted by STRANGER_OF_UR_DREAMZ
Whether you are staisifed with an answer is kind of immaterial. What matters is whether the answer is correct or that. That answer was incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by fxjamy
Your question was clear, so were our answers. You cannot find out anything more than the ISP that issued their IP address.
While I am the same way and I agree with the sentiment, there are still some very good reasons to be discreet online. But I think its more of a don't ask, don't tell thing then actual fibbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nez
What Chuck said about taking an online relationship offline is a key. Frankly I don't care whether the person I am corresponding with is 13 or 63. I have known 63 year olds who act like 13 and vice versa. Unless I have an intention of taking a relationship offline (and I have met many of the people I have corresponded with), it doesn't mattter to me. Its how they act online that matters.
Yep,agree with you Scott.All I'm saying is with me,it's what you (see),is what you get.As I have no intention of meeting with anyone off-line,I don't think any harm is done by speaking the truth.Er,giving my email(s) address to all and sundry,is a totally different matter of course.
I too agree with you that it if you can have an on-site "good banter" with others,then that can only benefit all concerned.It doesn't matter whether they are 19,or 99.It's the interest,and simplicity-complexity of replies which holds my attention.
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