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  • Aug 29, 2007, 04:00 AM
    benn11
    Amway ?
    Does anyone know anything about Amway corp? It stands for american way started in 1959, and claims to make a lot of people wealthy by only redirecting they shopping from traditional buying to buying from your "own" business and introducing other people to the business.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 04:10 AM
    Curlyben
    Amway MLM at it's oldest.
    Amway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  • Aug 29, 2007, 04:13 AM
    J_9
    I know they have a really BIG building. :p

    I used to live up the street from the World Headquarters in Ada Michigan.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 04:22 AM
    benn11
    J-9, do you know of any people that really make good money from this company? And are you part of amway?
  • Aug 29, 2007, 04:26 AM
    NeedKarma
    Their products used to be quite good years ago (like about 15 years ago), I'm not sure how they perform now. Of course then having someone come to your home for product demos was better received than it is today.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 04:31 AM
    excon
    Hello benn:

    Amway is a good company. If you like selling soap and vitamins and you work at it, you can make money. If you work hard at getting other distributors signed up underneath you, you can make big money.

    But, there ain't no free lunch. You're going to have to work very hard at it.

    excon

    PS> No, I don't work for Amway. I don't take vitamins and I don't wash.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 04:41 AM
    J_9
    Many years ago I knew people who worked for Amway, heck it was what put our town on the map. Yes, some did make a ton of money, especially DeVos :p (just an aside, I dated his son Doug in high school), but others didn't. Just like any job you have to work at it.

    And, no I don't work for Amway.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 05:29 AM
    shygrneyzs
    My youngest brother and his first wife bought into Amway and worked harder than a 40 hr a week job. But they liked to sell, they could sell, and people bought. Amway products are very good, such as their laundry detergent. If you like selling, can handle the pressure of sales and deadlines and goals, are excited to meet new people, do not get disappointed when people tell you, "no thanks", and have a back plan (as a real day job, at least for awhile), then go for it. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 05:35 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Yes, if you don't mind selling to people you know, people that live near you and anyone you meet ( but a real sales person does not mind that)
    And you will want to get others selling under you also ( that is where some of the better money comes from)

    I have a couple friends that have been doing it since the early 80's and live very well, I know a dozen who started it and stopped in about a month.

    It is like any MLM if you work hard and like it, you can make money.
    You will not get rich over night, you will have to work very hard getting started

    I love the products but on a limited income have stopped using them because of the pricing.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 06:52 AM
    ibofightback
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by benn11
    Does anyone know anything about Amway corp? It stands for american way started in 1959, and claims to make a lot of people wealthy by only redirecting they shopping from traditional buying to buying from your "own" business and introducing other people to the business.

    Amway is one of America's top 25 largest private companies and globally one of the world's biggest direct selling companies. Under the umbrella company of Alticor, Amway manufactures hundreds of products, mostly in health, beauty, and haircare. The Nutrilite nutritional products were ranked as having "most satisfied users" by ConsumerLabs in the US and numerous times been rated a "most trusted brand" by Reader's Digest in Asia. Nutrilite is promoted by athletes such as Asafa Powell (world 100m record holder), Liu Xang (world 110m record holder), Sanya Richards (2006 World Female Athlete of the Year) and Jenn Stuczynski (American pole vault champion)

    The Artistry cosmetics range was independently ranked by Euromonitor has one of the world's top 5 "prestige" cosmetics range and after Nutrilite is Amway's second biggest selling product range.

    Amway is famous for it's homecare products, including it's first product, LOC (Liquid Organic Cleaner) which was one of the world's first biodegradeable cleaning products. It's environmentally friendly SA8 washing detergent recently scored 99 out of 100 in testing by Consumer Reports - the next best scored 87.

    In recent years Amway (Quixtar in the US) negotiatied exclusive rights to XS Energy drinks, and these have been best sellers in the energy drink marketplace.

    In general Amway's products are very high quality, but as you'd expect they also cost more than lesser quality brands. However, if you use the products yourself and market them to others, there's the potential to make a lot of money, some make well into 7 figures.

    Note that just "buying from yourself and getting others to do the same" is not a business building method supported by Amway corporation, though some groups that work with the concept promote this. Amway expects you to also promote and sell the products direct to other consumers.
  • Aug 29, 2007, 06:55 AM
    Curlyben
    Why is it that when ever a question about any MLM company is posted along comes a Newbie and posts just how great it is.
    Do these guys do nothing more than search Google all day for forums where they can "answer" queries about the latest MLM system!!
    To top it all they tend to Post and Run as well. :o
  • Aug 29, 2007, 07:20 AM
    retsoksirhc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9
    I know they have a really BIG building. :p

    I used to live up the street from the World Headquarters in Ada Michigan.

    I know the feeling GR is a big place. :)

    You don't live around here anymore?
  • Aug 29, 2007, 08:36 AM
    benn11
    ibofightback, How long have you been an IBO with Amway and has it made any changes in your life?
  • Aug 29, 2007, 08:40 AM
    NeedKarma
    He's a shill:
    ibofightback - Google Search
  • Aug 29, 2007, 11:52 AM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
    I know the feeling GR is a big place. :)

    You don't live around here anymore?

    I now live in Tennessee, close to Memphis. My mother, though, is in Cedar Springs now. I miss the weather. :(
  • Aug 29, 2007, 07:45 PM
    RMC
    Yes, Quixtar which is Amway in the US and Canada is a good business and there is more money available now then ever before if you work the business...
  • Aug 29, 2007, 08:08 PM
    Clough
    In one company that I worked for, I know that one of my managers had become really good at doing the Amway thing. He was an excellent salesman! But unfortunately, sometimes how he got his sales was by being dishonest with customers. So, maybe he wasn't really all that excellent, then.

    A few times, some friends of mine have tried to get me involved in Amway. I find it frustrating to be someone's friend when part of the agenda of their being my friend is that they are trying to use me to make money.

    I know that Amway has some good products, though. But, I prefer not to be involved in it.
  • Aug 30, 2007, 12:42 AM
    benn11
    They are not using you to make money but telling you to redirect your money from buying your monthly goods from your own business rather then making the owner of walmart more money you can help yourself and your family make money while shopping from your own business.

    What is better? Making the owners of Walmart richer or helping your friends and your family make money and in turn you make money?
  • Aug 31, 2007, 12:56 PM
    ibofightback
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by benn11
    ibofightback, How long have you been an IBO with Amway and has it made any changes in your life?

    I've been an IBO for nearly a decade, this is the second time around. I've always loved the products. Made any changes? Absolutely. Using the Nutrilite products has helped my health enormously. Building the business and learning from successful people got me reading again, and I've used many of the things I've learned from that to build other businesses as well. Combine my Amway business and other businesses and I haven't had a job for 8 years. I'm not rich (yet) but I'm really glad I got out of the job "ratrace".
  • Aug 31, 2007, 01:01 PM
    ibofightback
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma

    I'm not a shill. I'm an Amway IBO who got sick of reading crap on the internet, so I devote some of my time to addressing it. And now I'm having to deal with even more crap - this stupid, and false, claim that I'm a shill.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 01:59 PM
    ScottGem
    Sorry, but NK's claim is neither crap, stupid or false. One definition of a shil is:

    a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty

    Now doesn't that describe what you are doing? Now I will state, that there is a more pejorative definition that implies dishonesty. So I can understand your ire in being referred to as a shill.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 02:03 PM
    ibofightback
    I may be wrong, but I'm pretty certain NK wasn't using the world "shill" in a manner simply to indicate I'm an (unpaid) supporter of Amway.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 02:04 PM
    NeedKarma
    Yes I was.
  • Aug 31, 2007, 02:19 PM
    ibofightback
    And using a term that is normally meant in a derogatory way adds what to the conversation? It was pretty obvious I'm an Amway supporter from the post, wasn't it?
  • Sep 7, 2007, 03:32 AM
    benn11
    IBOfightback, Do you make enough money not work? At which level are you e.g Platinum, etc..
  • Sep 7, 2007, 05:44 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Well I love their products, know people making money selling it, and know it is like any MLM product, a lot of people don't understand the hard work involved in selling and for every 100 that start seldom does 1 stay in it and do it.

    *** This is a unpaid endorcement but I am low on washing powder if my salespersons reads this.
  • Sep 11, 2007, 02:17 AM
    benn11
    Fr-Chuck, so you do like the products?
  • Sep 11, 2007, 02:20 AM
    trueblooe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by benn11
    Does anyone know anything about Amway corp? It stands for american way started in 1959, and claims to make a lot of people wealthy by only redirecting they shopping from traditional buying to buying from your "own" business and introducing other people to the business.

    You will get a lot richer by doing hard work and you will not loose you friends by inviting them a to amway meeting good luck you will need that and by the way don't say you are not interested in the product they are designed to wait for that answer and counter it
    Try saying to the guy or girl who is trying to suck you in it is a great product but I am real busy at the moment and don't have time to sell it you will save your sanity and your friends
  • Sep 11, 2007, 02:36 AM
    guam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by benn11
    Does anyone know anything about Amway corp? It stands for american way started in 1959, and claims to make a lot of people wealthy by only redirecting they shopping from traditional buying to buying from your "own" business and introducing other people to the business.

    Well, out here on guam, we do have Amway distributors. If I am not mistakened, Amway has been going by the name of Quickstar for the past couple of years. My sister Rosemarie (dec.), was an Amway member. She has built a house with the money that she had earned in her business. I'm not going to lie to you, but it doe 'take money to make money.' You must invest some of your own capital to establish your business in Amway. Amway is about selling basic commodaties. I have grown up watching my mother and my sister work on their 'Amway thingy' on the along side their full-time jobs. I think of it in the perspective of 'Myspace.' The more people that start up their own shares under you, the more commission you will get. It's all a matter of building your matrix of partners. I hope I was of any help to you.
  • Sep 13, 2007, 03:21 AM
    benn11
    So, your sister is doing good for herself Ha?
  • Sep 13, 2007, 06:02 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Yes, I do love their products, I use their water filters every day for my drinking water, and have used their washing detergent for years.
    I think I even have some of their cleaning products somewhere.

    And I think they are a great company.
    Now with that said, most people are not going to make a lot of money selling it, but it is like AVON or Mary Kay, they all are good companies, have good products and the average perrson makes a few dollars.

    The super sales person, who may also get rich selling life insurance or real estate may also get rich selling any of these, since a great sales person is just that.
  • Sep 13, 2007, 06:18 AM
    benn11
    So the secret is good salesmanship?
  • Sep 13, 2007, 06:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    Benn,

    Having spent a good part of my life in sales I've learnt that people buy from people not from companies.. at least that's how it used ot be before the anonymous nature of the internet took over. So yes, you need salesmanship for sure. There is a lot more competition out there than in the old days of going to people's houses for a demo.
  • Sep 13, 2007, 06:39 AM
    benn11
    How do you develop your salesman skills? Do you have to read books or is it trial and error?
  • Sep 13, 2007, 06:47 AM
    NeedKarma
    It helps to be an extrovert and have good self-confidence to begin with. You can learn some techniques but please don't become those salespeople that try to manipulate the buyer. I got out because cold calling became something I was uncomfortable with.
  • Sep 13, 2007, 07:18 AM
    benn11
    But did you ever enjoy it? Where you a door-to-door type of salesman?
  • Sep 13, 2007, 07:58 AM
    NeedKarma
    I would never be a door-to-door salesman for the simple reason that I don't like them coming to my house uninvited to sell me stuff - I try not to be a hypocrite. I sold fairly high-end databases of industry standards before the web hit it big.
  • Sep 13, 2007, 10:46 PM
    benn11
    I also don't like door-to-door selling
  • Dec 1, 2007, 11:12 PM
    birdie777
    Let me ask you this... If you really, really wanted to take a cruise to Hawaii, would you take it on a beautiful, luxurious cruise ship, despite the fact that it has Gigantic holes in the hull?? NO.

    It is a sinking ship... the Queen Mary hasn't set sail in years for a reason. Despite the success it may have had in the years past, it now has many holes and is a sinking ship.
  • Dec 6, 2007, 07:20 AM
    benn11
    So you saying that Amway is a sinking ship?

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