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  • Jun 13, 2005, 09:57 AM
    spyyder
    Wood Trim manufacturing and Carbon Fiber
    I have a jaguar S-type 2005. The gear shift knob handle on it is made from real/authentic Honey Burl wood (which matches the rest of the car's interior).
    Anyway, I was wondering how to manufacture a piece like this (like a 3D solid piece, NOT a flat type piece).

    I have researched that the pieces made are coated with polyurethane or epoxy. So to manufacture a piece like this, would I simply have to get a piece of honey burl wood, shape it, then coat it? Is it that simple? How do others get their pieces so perfect?

    Please describe the process to produce this kind of piece from scratch... I am talking about making a piece like this (this is not the one from the Jag) http://www.exoticwooddash.com/images.../100605_lg.jpg

    Also, how do people shape CARBON FIBER? How do they produce a carbon fiber piece like this (yes, it is of genuine carbon fiber) http://www.exoticwooddash.com/images.../100606_lg.jpg

    Also... any advice on how to make moulds /jigs to manufacture these wooden pieces to mass produce?

    I do not have much knowledge with wood working (but I understand everything else).

    Thanks a bunch! :)
  • Jun 13, 2005, 12:11 PM
    labman
    The only way to produce a seamless piece of wood is to carve it. There are mechanical ways to carve wood. It is then coated with the epoxy or whatever.

    The carbon fiber one likely is made from matching halves of carefully machined tool steel. It is simple to make fiberglass molds from existing objects, but it would be very difficult to make matching halves with very little mold line by hand.
  • Jun 14, 2005, 08:47 AM
    spyyder
    ...
    Ok, I understand that the wood pieces must be actually made (whether carved or machined) then coated.

    HOWEVER, exactly how is carbon fiber pieces made (I still don't understand). The piece is brittle and very strong. How do you shape it (either mould it or bend it). Do you actually have to heat it to mould it over a piece? Can I use it like perspex (heat it up, then push it/vacuum it over a mould)?

    How do people bend/shape carbon fiber for use on a car steering wheel (like around it - in some of those sparco/momo steering wheels)? I've got one, and its definitely one piece (not matching halves - because the pattern is so accurate and there is no glossy coat so the patterns are easily seen, and are definitely not two (or more) matching halves). :confused:
  • Jun 14, 2005, 09:35 AM
    labman
    The mold is in 2 pieces. The material is forced into the closed mold. Air pressure, vacuum, or rotation may be used to produce hollow parts. Heat may be used to reduce cure times. Once cured, the mold opens to remove the part.

    It is fairly easy to copy things like small boats, but don't think the finished all the way around things work that way.
  • Apr 24, 2009, 12:57 PM
    mrdezyne

    Carbon fiber is a fabric, woven from carbon strands into patterns, the most common is the herringbone look.
    CF parts are laid up just like a fiberglass piece, epoxy resin saturates the cloth as it is applied to a molded shape. This is how you get intricate forms. Once the resin hardens you are left with a very strong/ light weigth part.
    The CF pieces you have (assuming they are just flat panels) were laid up the same way except on a flat panel instead of a formed shape.
    If you can lay up fiberglass parts you can lay up CF parts as well, same technology, same process.

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