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  • May 10, 2009, 06:35 AM
    skeeterstl
    Comfortmaker RPJ Heat Exchanger blower fan and ac unit
    I have a Comfortmaker RPJ model G-011 400050 - 08M -PD that when the power is turned on to the unit, the blower fan runs continuously and the outside AC unit runs continuously no matter what mode is set at the thermostat. (A/C or Heat). I just moved into the place and the thermostat looks like it was replaced. The current thermostat is a RiteTemp. When selected to Heat mode, the furnace ignites and heats, but the outside AC unit is also running.
  • May 10, 2009, 07:06 AM
    Joshdta

    Sounds like there may be a wire touching at the t-stat or the control board is going bad
  • May 10, 2009, 07:49 AM
    skeeterstl
    Thanks for the info, I checked the wiring and can't see any touching, the indoor unit could use a good cleaning though, looks like it hasn't been cleaned in quite some time. Also, I forgot to mention in the original post that when switching from Auto to On with the stat, that the motor makes a change in sound but doesn't change speeds or do anything different other than continue to run.
  • May 10, 2009, 07:52 AM
    Joshdta

    Turn the power off snap the t-stat off the wall then turn the power back on and see if it comes on.
  • May 10, 2009, 07:55 AM
    skeeterstl
    The stat doesn't pop off, I had to disconnect all wires from stat. When I did that, and turned power back on, the fan came on.
  • May 10, 2009, 08:35 AM
    Joshdta

    What about the outdoor unit is it running? Sounds like you may have a bad fan relay
  • May 10, 2009, 08:36 AM
    skeeterstl

    Yes, the outside unit is running as well.
  • May 10, 2009, 08:38 AM
    Joshdta

    Well next it sounds like you will need to take the t-stat wire loose form the control board in the bottom door of your furnace and see if the fan and ac still ccme on.
  • May 10, 2009, 08:49 AM
    skeeterstl

    Should I remove all three wires that go to the t-stat?
  • May 10, 2009, 08:50 AM
    Joshdta

    Yes, you can try that
  • May 10, 2009, 08:55 AM
    skeeterstl

    Disconnected wires for t-stat, blower did not come on, but outdoor unit did come on.
  • May 10, 2009, 08:56 AM
    skeeterstl

    Removed wires to t-stat, blower did not come on, but outdoor unit did come on.
  • May 10, 2009, 11:14 AM
    Joshdta

    Does the outdoor un it only go off when the breaker is shut off to it? Or does it go off when you turn the furnace off?
  • May 10, 2009, 11:20 AM
    skeeterstl

    It only goes off when you shut it off at the breaker box.
  • May 10, 2009, 12:03 PM
    Joshdta

    OK sounds like the contactor is stuck on the ac unit. That would be why the ac does not shut off now we need to find out if the fan will shut off. Is the ac the only thing messed up right now? Or will the indoor fan still not shut off either?
  • May 10, 2009, 12:11 PM
    skeeterstl

    Right now the ac is the only thing that will run. I have all wires from t-stat still disconnected and the fan does not come on when power is restored to the furnace.
  • May 10, 2009, 12:28 PM
    skeeterstl
    I will connect all wires back and connect the t-stat again and see what happens.
  • May 10, 2009, 04:10 PM
    Joshdta

    OK good if everything is working but the ac I can tell you how to check the contactor
  • May 10, 2009, 05:04 PM
    skeeterstl

    Reconnected wires from t-stat back to panel on furnace unit, did not connect wires to t-stat, turned power back on to the furnace unit and blower fan comes on. Is this supposed to happen. A/C unit is still shut off at breaker box.
  • May 10, 2009, 05:26 PM
    Joshdta

    Maybe, some furnaces have a 1 min 30 sec blower on delay after statrt up. Does it go off or is it still running??
  • May 10, 2009, 05:27 PM
    skeeterstl

    It is still running.
  • May 10, 2009, 05:30 PM
    Joshdta

    And no wires are touching each other up on the wall where you took your stat off are they? Also to make sure I am on the same page as you, when you took them off the control board the fan did not come on correct?
  • May 10, 2009, 05:32 PM
    skeeterstl

    There are no wires touching at the t-stat, and correct when all wires were disconnected the fan did not come on when power was returned to the unit.
  • May 10, 2009, 05:34 PM
    skeeterstl
    I did notice that possibly the A/C is wired to the Common connector on the panel, if that makes any difference.
  • May 10, 2009, 05:41 PM
    Joshdta

    Then it sound like you have some wires touching somewhere between the t-stat and the furnace, is there any where they might have got pinched? ( a tight place or a sharp bend) if nothing runs with the wires off the board then the board is working properly. So the red and the green wire must be touching somewhere. Do you have a ohm meter?
  • May 10, 2009, 05:45 PM
    skeeterstl

    I can check obvious places for a possible cause. No I don't have an ohm meter.
  • May 10, 2009, 05:47 PM
    Joshdta

    Do you have extra wires in the wall or just the 4 you have hooked up?
  • May 10, 2009, 05:53 PM
    skeeterstl

    I think I may have found a possible cause. Don't ask me why, but whoever lived here before wired the doorbell (the furnace unit area is adjacent to the front door wall) which I disconnected the wires that possibly go to the doorbell and when I did that the blower does not come on when power is returned to the unit.
  • May 10, 2009, 05:54 PM
    skeeterstl

    Although, the issue with the outdoor A/C unit coming on when the breakers are reset is still there.
  • May 10, 2009, 05:55 PM
    Joshdta

    Wow that's odd, OK so how many wires do you have including the door bell wires?
  • May 10, 2009, 05:56 PM
    Joshdta
    OK well lets get the t-stat wired back up like it should be and make sure everything inside is normal, and then we can try to fix the outdoor.
  • May 10, 2009, 06:01 PM
    skeeterstl

    I have 3 sets of wires going to the panel that only have a red and white wire in them, and one wire that has red, white, green and blue in it.
  • May 10, 2009, 06:03 PM
    skeeterstl

    I have re-connected the t-stat wires and the blower is back to coming on again.
  • May 10, 2009, 06:04 PM
    Joshdta

    OK do you have a digital t-stat or a old mercury? You just need to wires to the outdoor unit. Red on y, and white on c
  • May 10, 2009, 06:07 PM
    Joshdta
    What you need to do is find out what set of wires you don't need.
  • May 10, 2009, 06:07 PM
    skeeterstl

    It is not digital, but runs on batteries. Has temp slide selector and mode selectors on the side for cool, off, heat and Fan On and Auto.
  • May 10, 2009, 06:09 PM
    skeeterstl

    There is a set of the red and white wires connected to panel... white on C and Red to the Blue wire to the T-stat, which is not connected to the panel.
  • May 10, 2009, 06:09 PM
    Joshdta

    How many wires up stairs at the stat?
  • May 10, 2009, 06:11 PM
    skeeterstl

    4 wires at the stat... red, white, green and blue.
  • May 10, 2009, 06:12 PM
    Joshdta

    Lets make it so there are 4 wires at the stat and just 6 in the basement

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