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  • Jan 1, 2009, 03:58 PM
    sdcruiser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hvac1000 View Post
    Do not expect to get 20 years of trouble free service out of any of the new ones since that will never happen. I guarantee you will be spending some big $$$ if you buy a variable speed blower on any unit after the warrenty is over. While the DC conversion has merit the true long range cost/energy savings are bogus.

    Yes, I'm reading another thread here about 2-stage vs modulating and my head is spinning. I might just do what it takes to keep this 82% carrier running for awhile lol. So does that slight "leak" at the sides of my burners look like a problem in the pic. I guess I could try squeezing the sheet metal together there slightly to see if I can reduce it.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 05:17 PM
    hvac1000
    The burners have a built in flame jumper circuit to allow the pilot to lite off the closest burner then the flame travels to the other burners to lite them off from there. The side burn you are talking about does not look to severe. If you choose to try and close them down it might cause more problems than leaving them alone. Keep your eyes on Ebay. Every once in a while someone puts a new set up for auction and they go cheap. I know I do not have any in my personal stock in my old warehouse in the industrial park from years ago. Most of the stuff left there is for ammonia refrigeration and come to think of it I should probably unload that stuff and give my tenant the rest of the cage space. That stuff has been sitting there for 15 years. LOL

    If you try to crimp them down easy does it since the metal is old and well tempered if you know what I mean.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 05:51 PM
    KC13

    The unit in the pic looks pretty good for 21 years old. Must be the mild winters and not being exposed to road salt.:p
  • Jan 1, 2009, 05:52 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Goodman two stage is an awesome furnace. One of, if not thee highest effiency ratings, and lower priced than most competitors. Not at all problem matic(as long as installed correctly). Doesn't have the variable draft inducer. You could almost buy one of these goodmans for the price of one variable motor.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 05:54 PM
    hvac1000
    Yes but the Goodman has one of those funny all in one gas valves that do not work unless you play with the wires. LOL
  • Jan 1, 2009, 05:57 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Only been doing goodmans for about four years, but haven't had one single problem with gas valve or wiring.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:09 PM
    KC13

    The truth is hidden in the name. Go to wordsmith.org, click on "internet anagram server", type in goodman, click on "get anagrams". Pretty funny stuff. "Evander Holyfield" gets you "lived holy 'n' fed ear". Brett Favre? "Beer fart TV". :D
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:20 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Is that kind of like saying :you buy a rheem, your going to get reemed. I got a payne and oh what a pain it is. Can't stop a train, its just getting it to start that's hard. Carrier. Im sick of hauling this thing around. Lennox, well, lets just say it sounds like a drug that should come with the unit to keep you from going crazy.
    Goodman. Yep, you're a Good Man for having the sense to buy me.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:26 PM
    sdcruiser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    The unit in the pic looks pretty good for 21 years old. Must be the mild winters and not being exposed to road salt.:p

    Yeah I hated when my dad made me knock the slush off our furnace in Cleveland!

    Oh I ran it another two times with no issues. Thanks
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:31 PM
    KC13

    It's more like, "O G O D A M N".
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:37 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    As in O GOD DAMN this is an awesome furnace?
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:40 PM
    KC13

    As they say, "beauty is in the eye of the beerholder"... maybe we should do the wordsmith to some other brands...
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:40 PM
    hvac1000
    Actually the Goodmans we have tested over the years have all been OK with the exception of the heat X rings that would pop a few years ago. The most important factor with any equiptment is the quality of the install. You can take the most expensive equipment and turn it to junk with a bad install.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:46 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Exactly right hvac. All new furnaces are pretty much the same(some do tend to overkill in design with no noticeable increase in function, just makes them harder to trouble shoot.) Install is key.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 06:54 PM
    KC13

    Okay, "Lennox heat" can also be "hotel annex", as in you might end up in one when it breaks down. Or, "He lent an ox", to haul it away, I imagine...
  • Jan 1, 2009, 07:07 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Yep Lennox sucks.LOL
  • Jan 1, 2009, 07:16 PM
    MarkwithaK
    Is that flexible gas line legal in your area? In Indiana it is a no-no.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mygirlsdad77 View Post
    Can't stop a train, its just getting it to start thats hard.

    Now that's funny!
  • Jan 1, 2009, 07:37 PM
    sdcruiser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkwithaK View Post
    Is that flexible gas line legal in your area? In Indiana it is a no-no.


    Now that's funny!

    Yes they even use it on the water heater.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 07:40 PM
    MarkwithaK

    It is legal to use it on water heaters here but illegal to use in any situation where the line would pass through the cabinet, such as a furnace.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 07:41 PM
    KC13

    Indiana won't allow it due to all of the earthquakes... which... never happen in SoCal...
  • Jan 1, 2009, 07:41 PM
    MarkwithaK
    In addition, you cannot have a union inside the cabinet here. A furnace must be hard piped from gas valve on back lol.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 07:43 PM
    MarkwithaK
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    Indiana won't allow it due to all of the earthquakes...which...never happen in SoCal...

    Yeah because Indiana gets soooo many... ya goon! Lol

    We did get one back when I was young. Lasted all of 10 seconds lol.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 09:18 PM
    KC13
    Here we go... "Trane furnace"... or "errant fan cue"... or "enact rear fun"... or "rent-a-furnace".
  • Jan 1, 2009, 09:49 PM
    MarkwithaK
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    "enact rear fun"

    I used to date this girl back in the day and well you know :p
  • Jan 1, 2009, 09:53 PM
    KC13
    I prefer microwave ovens, they don't brown your meat...
  • Jan 1, 2009, 10:00 PM
    MarkwithaK

    That's just wrong... funny... but so so wrong.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 10:41 PM
    KC13
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkwithaK View Post
    That's just wrong....funny....but so so wrong.

    Look man, I tried to warn you about my sister, but you wouldn't listen... "her mouth is so pretty..." I think I've hit rock bottom now, somebody please take this shovel from me.
  • Jan 1, 2009, 10:50 PM
    hvac1000
    Her name is not Vacuum Sally by any chance?
  • Jan 2, 2009, 05:50 PM
    MarkwithaK

    You know Sally??
  • Jan 2, 2009, 06:13 PM
    hvac1000
    Dang she told me I was the only one. LOL
  • Jan 2, 2009, 09:06 PM
    KC13
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hvac1000 View Post
    Dang she told me I was the only one. LOL

    She lied to everyone like that. Even her own father...
  • Jan 2, 2009, 09:11 PM
    hvac1000
    Thank god since it was my uncles child. LOL
  • Jan 2, 2009, 09:15 PM
    KC13
    She's married now. Met her cousband at a family reunion. Uncle daddy was so jealous...
  • Jan 2, 2009, 09:26 PM
    hvac1000
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    According to his wife/girlfriend his plumbing is out of order so he could not do her any good no more anyway. PS that is why his wife/girlfriend see me now.. he does not look to good anymore either. I am thankful for being adopted.
  • Jan 2, 2009, 09:31 PM
    KC13
    Looks like a BMV photo. That's not his good side.
  • Jan 7, 2009, 07:39 PM
    KC13
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    The truth is hidden in the name. Go to wordsmith.org, click on "internet anagram server", type in goodman, click on "get anagrams". Pretty funny stuff. "Evander Holyfield" gets you "lived holy 'n' fed ear". Brett Favre? "Beer fart TV". :D

    Do you see "Rheem furnace"? Or, "fun cream here"? Or, "fear, hence rum"? Yes, I'm bored...
  • Jan 7, 2009, 07:48 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Can you give me the one for ARTIC AIR.
  • Jan 7, 2009, 07:50 PM
    KC13
    Ask me help desk? Or, "desk leaks hemp"?
  • Jan 7, 2009, 07:56 PM
    KC13
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mygirlsdad77 View Post
    can you give me the one for ARTIC AIR.

    Not much, really. "I, circa tar". Pretty old, I suppose...
  • Jan 7, 2009, 08:00 PM
    mygirlsdad77
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    Ask me help desk? Or, "desk leaks hemp"?

    Wow, I would have really enjoyed this site about ten years ago. Ohhh, the good old days.

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