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President Bush has signed a directive granting extraordinary powers to the office of the president in the event of a declared national emergency, apparently without congressional approval or oversight.
The "National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive" was signed May 9, notes Jerome R. Corsi in a WND column.
WorldNetDaily: Bush grants presidency extraordinary powers
Echos of Hilter, he position himself in about the same way.
Boy, that is fur sure! I am really getting quite concerned as to just exactly what this guy really has up his sleeve. This new law will allow him to take total control of the U.S. and even suspend the next election if he sees fit. I mean total control. It has always been said that the Bush family wants to be the Royal family of the U.S. I am starting to really believe that!
It's amazing how many people don't even care about what the president is doing to their rights.
It seems more and more the this president is running the same plan as Hilter did.
Well if the people in this country don't open their eyes SOON, they will see what he means to be a slave for the one man.
So, now the Presdient has take the US Constitution and tossed it out. No more separation of power.
So, now any loosely declared national emergency the president now take control of all government and business activities until his declare emerency is over.
So, one man now controls the country, is would have to say it speaks of Dictatorship, not a republic.
So, people are we going to be a country where one can be free, pursue happiness and enjoy life, or are we going to become a country under a DICTATOR??
Does anyone have a opinion??
Wow, that is very concerning. How does a supposed country that boasts as being the true example of Democracy allow such a thing to happen? Hmmmmmnn
I emailed the link for the bill to my state reps and asked them if they know what is going on. It will take a while but the word is that congress doesn't know anything about this. It was done behind closed doors, signed and pushed through in complete private. This is really bad folks. This is bad.
Surely if you have found and read this link then someone of some importance that was against it knew about it at some point. Why has no one come out publicly against it? Or has someone?
His signing the Presidential directive is nothing new. It's been done for years by other Presidents both Democratic and Republican although admittedly, Bush has issued more such directives that other President's. But we have not had incidents such as 9/11 where almost 3,000 people lost their lives since Pearl Harbor - it's a different world now as most would agree. I would want all our efforts, both governmental and private sector directed toward remedying, for example, detonation of a suitcase nuclear weapon. Any President, whether, Democratic or Republican would have my support. I believe we have too many checks and balances in our system for abuse of power by the President.
Yep you guys are really on the wrong side, when he takes over all of those people who spoke bad against him will be sorry. Us supporters will get our place of honor
But the president has always had the rights to declare national emergany and have had powers to do so, Just as governors do for their states.
It appears as though this directive puts an end to those checks and balances.
If he were to abuse this power, one way he could be stopped would be for the Supreme Court to declare his directive illegal. I am sure there are other ways but I am no constitutional lawyer. Checks and balances have worked pretty well for the last 230 or so years.
Hard to do when the military has the court closed for their own safety,
And they are all wisked away to a undeclosed locatoin for their safety.
All those new secret prisons have to be for someone?
All no one will be laughing at all of those new world order people then?
I was thinking of that new title, Director of World Religions, Or it may be a new denomination, "Bushology"
I'd say Cheney's the one to watch. George wouldn't know what to do with dictatorial powers if he had them, but D!ck would. It almost sounds like his "succession to the presidency" is a foregone conclusion. Quoting from the Directive:
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General Provisions
(20) This directive shall be implemented in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. 19), with consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved. Heads of executive departments and agencies shall ensure that appropriate support is available to the Vice President and others involved as necessary to be prepared at all times to implement those provisions.
Had to spread it around Padre but you got it right. Bushology: The extreme worship of complete earthly power and washed in the oil of the prince of Saudi Arabia. Not the Blood of the Prince of Peace.
The part that says "others" is what scares me. Don't forget Daddy!Quote:
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Lest anyone think a palace coup is out of the question, here's a little something from The Washington Note
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Multiple sources have reported that a senior aide on Vice President Cheney's national security team has been meeting with policy hands of the American Enterprise Institute, one other think tank, and more than one national security consulting house and explicitly stating that Vice President Cheney does not support President Bush's tack towards Condoleezza Rice's diplomatic efforts and fears that the President is taking diplomacy with Iran too seriously.
This White House official has stated to several Washington insiders that Cheney is planning to deploy an "end run strategy" around the President if he and his team lose the policy argument.
The thinking on Cheney's team is to collude with Israel, nudging Israel at some key moment in the ongoing standoff between Iran's nuclear activities and international frustration over this to mount a small-scale conventional strike against Natanz using cruise missiles (i.e. not ballistic missiles).
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The zinger of this information is the admission by this Cheney aide that Cheney himself is frustrated with President Bush and believes, much like Richard Perle, that Bush is making a disastrous mistake by aligning himself with the policy course that Condoleezza Rice, Bob Gates, Michael Hayden and McConnell have sculpted.
According to this official, Cheney believes that Bush can not be counted on to make the "right decision" when it comes to dealing with Iran and thus Cheney believes that he must tie the President's hands.
Don't even get me started on the gas prices, and what hand Dubya has in that. Kind of coincidental that he has stake in oil, and all of his friends do. And OPEC cutting production to keep the demand high is ty too. No wonder why the economy is going to hell. I may not have liked the whole sex scandal that Bill Clinton was involved in, but at least our economy was strong when we were in office.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
President Dwight Eisenhower famously referred to the "military-industrial complex" in his farewell address. The term military-industrial complex (MIC) refers to a close and symbiotic relationship among a nation's armed forces, its private industry, and associated political and commercial interests. In such a system, the military is dependent on industry to supply material and other support, while the defense industry depends on government for revenue.
The term is most often used in reference to the United States, where it gained popularity after its use in the farewell address of President Dwight D. Eisenhower. As pejorative terms, the "MIC" or the "iron triangle" refer to an institutionalised collusion among defense contractors (industry), The Pentagon (military), and the United States government (Congress, Executive branch), as a cartel that works against the public interest, and whose motivation is profiteering.
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With oil as the prize, this is a win-win deal for all... all the greedy rich!:mad:
I can't find any news stories on this. Screw sending it to your state reps. I have just sent the directive to Tim Russert and I am going to sending it to every news organization I can find. If it gets airplay, it will become an issue to our reps.
If Bush uses this to bypass the next presidential election, you can be guaranteed, the damage to the Republican party will be of astronomical proportions.
Oh well, I always thought and new from everything that happened the Bush to me is considered worse then a dictator, I consider him a murderer. Charge him with manslaughter for all the innocents lost in america and world wide.
My guns are clean and loaded, and I got plenty of ammo.
Well then dig a hole cause your pea shooters are really going to piss of those tank commanders and Apache pilots and you will need a good place to hide! Besides, Maltoff Cocktails are just too cost prohibitive these days.
I don't know around here in the back woods, a claymore mine and a Missile launcher is just considered a good deer hunting weapon.
But I am not sure, the Iraqi militants seem to be doing a fairly good job with car bombs, and small arms against us.
I ain't worried cause I got a lot of friends.
Hello:
Somebody needed to spark a revolution. Bush is creating terrorists around the world - why not here at home?
(Uh-oh, the internet cops are probably on to me now -- which is a perfectly good REASON to HAVE a revolution in the first place). Count me in, tal.
excon
PS> Do any of you actually think that what we write here could wind up on somebody's desk at the NSA, CIA, DIA?? Take your pick.
I do not really give a flying ----. If it lands on any of their tables. They have lots of enemies around the world. I guess, they could be watching all of us, but hey. I am not afraid of them. Any of them. Let them read what I have written. It is a free country after all. Unless you talk bad about the president or his government. LolQuote:
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Joe
Hello again, Joe:Quote:
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Me neither, but they DO have awfully big guns.
However, the good news (or bad - depending on ones perspective), is that the Iraqi's have proven that they can beat the world mightyist military with some thrown together bombs.
Which brings up the question; if Bush orders the National Guard to fire on us, do you think they will?
excon
The gwb library will be built not to far from me, HEHEHEHEHEHEHE! Everybody is invited. Bring your own marshmellows. Seriously, I made the mistake in believing that I was free, and this is still America, and if we can throw perfectly good tea in the river... we can burn all the bushes we want... get it burning bush HEHEHEHE
Sorry made the coffee a little strong this morning and this is my 4th cup.
Haven't you heard? The National Guard is in Iraq dodging bullets and bombs and congress ain't gave them no money for bullets yet.Quote:
if Bush orders the National Guard to fire on us, do you think they will?
Excon,
Like tal said, they are way to busy on other things all around the world. They won't have time to hunt us down or have the ammo.
I don't mess with them their crazy.Quote:
They've always had enough cops hangin around to bust ME
The Branch Davidians, in Waco, are proof that they will break the law and send federal troops to kill private citizens. The constitution prohibits that but Janet Reno and Bill Clinton didn't give a big rats butt, do you think Bush and Cheney have any qualms about it? I don't.
The thing is, this "war" is about oil. If we don't get it first, the Chinese and the Russians will. If they get it first, we will lose a war against them since we really do not have enough in the U.S. to hold out against them.
I think Bush has done this to ensure that he can override the Democrats simply because this is an emergency. To pull out of the Middle East without having an American puppet government in place that will watch out for our interest. Ya think?
I'll believe it when it happens, until then all this sounds like conjecture and paranoia.
What has President Bush done to you personally , for you to spew such stuff?
He cut your taxes.
He is anti abortion, and has appointed strict constitutional supreme court justices that repect life. He is trying to protect the " innocents" contrary to post #22. Around 3000 abortions a year!
I have more faith in our government that this scenario will never happen. We are young as a country but we have been through a lot worse. How many in the South would have considered Lincoln a "dictator."
I have more respect for our Military - they protect us and our freedom to have opinions though we disagree. I do not fear them.
I fear Islamic fascists who will kill themselves and as much of us as possible.
They killed >3000 people BEFORE we went to Iraq.
They kill because of some cartoon they disagree with.
We are in a free market/capitalistic economy. George Bush does not control the price of gas. Supply and demand determine the price of gas. The supply would be more if Congress allowed for the oil in ANWR to be extracted. The demand can be controlled by each individual. You yourself determine how much gas you need or want.
Research how "affordable", how plentiful consumer products were, what the standard of living was in the former USSR.
Grace and Peace
That's the only thing he done and got right. The rest of his policies suck. It goes back to when he was a general manager for the Texas Rangers, and screwed that team up, all the way through to Governor when he had a nice sound byte about "no child left behind " which was an unfunded mandate (sounds good but no money or policys in place to support it) and now Texas has the biggest dropout rate in the country, and as president, between immigration and Irag, has turned this country on its ear, and that doesn't even take into account his willingness to stomp on our civil rights. And still hasn't found Bin Laden. And don't compare us to Russia, because you can't. I will admit Bush, Chaney and the oil boys have made money hand over fists.Quote:
He cut your taxes.
Talan..
Agree on the immigration issue.
Finding and capturing OBL would be nice, but the principle is the willingness and the courage to fight against those who have, could, and would attack us.
I'm comparing the "planned economy" of the former USSR to a free market economy that we have.
The oil companies need to make a profit in order to stay in business. A sector of the economy that helps provide us oil and its products. Why is it that the oil companies get bashed for making money, yet there is no huge public outcry over the money some pro atheletes, celebrities, actors, actressess, music producers make??
Stomp on whose civil rights?
Grace and peace
He has and still can bug anyone in America and can hold you in federal jail without a lawyer for as long as he pleases. Not just suspected terrorist, anyone. Have we forgotten the patroit act?
The Patriot Act was passed by both houses of Congress. If certatin sections need to be revised, deleted, altered it is up to Congress to debate and go through that process.
Just an aside. I feel that Banks, Credit card companies, internet spyware and cookies, and anyone else that wants to know my SS# violates my right to privacy.
Grace and Peace
Come on, on the bugging, don't you think every president has done this for decades. What do you think those great big listening posts were that Bush used to listen to international calls. Do you think they just sit there all day fully staffed and just wait for one or two court orders to wonder in. seriously, think about it.
Was Hitler democratically re-elected to a second term?Quote:
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