Have a great 4th for everyone who celebrates! :D
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Have a great 4th for everyone who celebrates! :D
No worries, I pop in and out of threads a lot... you may not see me for a month, I may be back tomorrow heheQuote:
Originally Posted by KUXJ
Hopefully Ben goes for it.
That UTP is huge now! :eek:
I can't even grow weeds in my yard haha
All I can do is wait. :)pace....:)pace...:)pace...Quote:
Originally Posted by shazamatazHopefully Ben goes for it.
That UTP is huge now! :eek:
I can't even grow weeds in my yard hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by KUXJ
I sent the PM last evening 'bout 10pm edt Fri. that would have been 03:00Z Sat. which made your time, noon Sat. if your near Sydney.
Ahh... What time is it again? :confused:
Yes it is! I've never had one take off like this!
Its not the weeds we're concerned 'bout :rolleyes:
K
1.) We need to establish the meaning of asexual.Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
Asexual
Dictionary: a·sex·u·al (ā-sĕk'shū-əl) adjective
1.Having no evident sex or sex organs; sexless.
2.Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction that occurs without the union of male and female gametes, as in binary fission or budding.
3.Lacking interest in or desire for sex.
Asexuality a·sex'u·al'i·ty (-ăl'ĭ-tē) n.
Asexually a·sex'u·al·ly adv.
For the purposes of this discussion I shall stay with this one.
As applied to propagation, indicates any method of increasing plants except by seeds, such as by cuttings, layering, or division.
Gardener's Dictionary: asexual
2.) is there a male and female tomato plant
Technically, the tomato is hermaphroditic which means that both male and female parts exist in the same flower. Plant Answers
There is a female-sterile plant that scientist are working with to produce fruit.
A FEMALE-STERILE MUTANT IN THE TOMATO -- HONMA and PHATAK 55 (3): 143 -- Journal of Heredity
Through Human intervention, mutations can, and do occur that result in sterile, but healthy blossoms of each.
There is genetic research being done to see if plants of this type can be made to produce fruit.
Wiley InterScience
Natural intervention does happen, but at a rate that is difficult for anyone but a scientist to observe.
Now that we have established a baseline, I can answer your questions
Are there male and female tomato plants?
Yes
Are they asexual?
Using the first definitions #1 and #3 No.
Using #2 and the Gardeners Dictionary Yes, because tomatoes can be propagated as mentioned in the Gardeners Dictionary.
I take no responsibility if the server edits any of this post. That's its job.
K
Thread now a sticky as it's very interesting.
Hi! Curlyben, Thank You! I am honored.
May you and yours have a Great Day!
Kindest Regards,
k
Aka Steve
Yay, well done KUXJ :)
Attachment 21648
This is Mama Mia, so no prize. Not an UDT
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This is the sun scorch I was talking about, but the red one was right next to it and it seems fine
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This is the other side of the same tomato.
Well... nothing worked there, I will try again:(
I wish I new how to delete the whole thing.
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It worked this time, so you have the comments on the previous post.:)
The red one has no spots, it was a reflection.
I have the first red (sorta) tomato, but it's not on a UDT, so I don't win:(
Hi! Just Dahlia... I was wondering who that was with the camera. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
Your quite right that is Sun scald, half way down left center. See:
Green Fruit Disorders - Tomato Problem Solver | Aggie Horticulture
Only the Admin can do that, but if the edit button is still there on the post you want to delete you could go back and attach another pix of more toms...Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
- Click edit
- Then go advanced
- cut everything there
- attach new pix, you might have to add text
- or type new message
- Click save
Never fear!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
Now where did I put those Diploma's? :confused: Eddie, where'd you put those Diploma's?. rummage... rummage... goes upstairs... goes into the basement... out to the shed... rummage... rummage
Ahh... Here they are! :)
Okay everyone pay attention!!!
Clears throat... harrumph... cough...
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To the Esteem Faculty of Ask Me Help Desk, Mr. curlyben, Mr. Dahlia, fellow members of Ask Me Help Desk, fellow contributors of UDT, fellow Botanists, Ladies and Gentlemen:
It is with Extreme Honor that I have been asked to present Mrs. Dahlia with thee "First" UDT Diploma.
Mrs. Dahlia.....
In recognition of your steadfast Diligence, and untiring Devotion to your Tomatoes,
Your unwavering Effort's in the face of unbearable weather conditions,
never asking for a brief respite until your Charges were taken care of First.
I hereby bestow, upon you, The Degree of UDT. Congratulations! Doctor Dahlia!
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present Doctor Dahlia! The Doctor is in!
applause! applause! applause! applause!
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Refreshments will be served immediately following, in the Lounge.
Wallet size, suitable for framing... k
Hi! Everyone :)
Just a couple of things this morning.
Was thinking 'bout the asexual post and pollination, for now I'm giving the fruit stems a little shake to observe if it will produce more... more on Friday.
Found a Salsa recipe... It's Fiesta Time
And just curious 'bout this mushroom, every morning it sprouts, grows to a little under 2" then dies off at night only to start over again the next day.
Wow, that was some reception last night for Dr. Dahlia!
I would have stayed later, but had to get Eddie to the airport, glad I stuck to the Bloody Mary's... sans alcohol.
K
Congrats to JD... and K... what location exactally are you in. it could help me narrow down which mushroom that is for you. Mind you I mean the state you reside in and if it is In the northern, southern, eastern or western portion of the state and I don't mean your exact location. Wouldn't need much more then the state though maybe now that I think about it
I know nothing about mushrooms, except for the ones you eat and buy at the local grocer. I didn't even know that they died at night and could sprout that fast, I just always thought field mushrooms were beautiful and intriguing.
But, I am remiss with my speech, must have been those Bloody Marys KUXJ was sharing. I think he put something in mine.
::clears throat::
I'd like to thank...
*First of all the weather, even though it was not predictable as it usually is, with out weather we have nothing.
*I would like to thank Lowe's for the 'pot' in which MAMA MIA has been living her life
*I really need to thank my 'hoarding' gene for saving the Miracle Grow for Tomatoes for years and my organizational skills for being able to find said Miracle Grow.
*My dogs for not digging up the plants
*and of course KUXJ, Binx44 for info and support through the many problems that have occurred
And who am I forgetting:rolleyes:
Oh yeah... Tick, Shaz and JMjoseph for their interest and recipe.
If I have forgotten anyone I apologize, it must be the Bloody Marys!:cool:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
Lol. And here's some random typing because for some reason this is not letting me post and its saying my message has to be more then two characters.. its way more then two characters.. I typed.. can it not see the blue? (Pouts)
If you stop to think 'bout it, Mother Nature started “Location... Location... Location... She just never bragged 'bout it.Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
- Pennsylvania
- According to local lore “South Central"
- Southeast corner of South Central location
- Been growing in woody tanbark
- pix were taken 72 minutes apart
- I'd give you the Google Earth Co-ordinates, but then I'd have to dispose of the body :rolleyes:
- suffice it to say 40N ~ 77W
- 'shrooms are circled, will have to make thicker next time
- "I" think I smell another diploma.
Some of the fastest growers on the Planet. Ran into morels 3weeks ago (shhh....secret spot...sneek 'round.....sneek 'round) Delicious!Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
Wild About Mushrooms: MorelsMy sentiments exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
Hear! Hear! Well Said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
Applause!! Applause!! Applause!! Applause!!
Well... We couldn't find Celery stalks, and even though my new found 'shrooms look like parasols, I told Eddie, “Don't put them in the drinks!” He does mean well.
Don't feel bad, I'm wearin' the Foster Grants too. :cool:
Usually on a forum, writings that are contained in “Quotes” as in “Quote User” are similar to an image, and the server holds that image until it recognizes additional text outside of the boundaries of the “Quote Brackets”. Either [ or ]Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
A member is still allowed to modify the interior of that image, but again, the server is holding that “Image” until it “sees” additional input.
By the way... I liked what you were trying to do. :)
There is another technique called “Nested Quotes” an example is in/on UDT Page 17 ~ Post 163 .
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/garden...352932-17.html
If you would like to see how that works, click on "Quote User" and study the code presented.
Well... gotta get going, the Sun's goin' down, got things to do.
Think my verbena has aphids ( got the dreaded "cottony mass" see pix) did spray with soapy water mix and moved 'em... time will tell...
Ketch Ya later :) k
I can't find the pix of the circled mushrooms and the verbena :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KUXJ
Pictures of 'shroom's are on the top of page 18. Though I am not sure where this other photo K is talking about is... *thinks it got eaten by the computer post monsters*
K why thanks for saying you liked what I was trying to do :D hehe so did I until it didn't like me. Not hard to add a little text though. Will start searching my books for your mysterious super speed growth 'shrooms :D and will get back to you. I'm pretty sure I've seen a pix of them before while flipping through looking for edible varietys (yum yum I love mushrooms) Only thing with mushrooms though is that you should always be 100% sure of what your looking at before even touching it because some carry toxins that can be absorbed through your skin and effect you not just intruducing toxins through digestion of said 'shroom
Yea, I know I downloaded them, I'll try again, check bottom of page... ↓Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
I thinks your right. Your welcome, Yes, I've seen them before to, and your "Dead Right" 'bout that last comment!Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
Looks like it worked this time. I checked the verbena tried rubbin the "mass" away, but didn't move, mite be "Sun scald"
You can see the yellow circles better in the V pix, barely in the 'shrooms. Again 'shroom pix 72minutes apart.
K
You guys are too computer intelligent for me, I feel like a dunce.:(
I will continue with my regular posts and be proud if I can download something. :D
I have more pink-esh tomatoes!:D
Deb
Proving I can grow something without a infection and download the pic... Attachment 21753
JD. LOL... maybe we just use computers more then you do.. me personally I've been using computers all my life since my mom decided we were old enough to have one without breaking it.. when I went to college at Nova Scotia Community College I was required to do a computer course.. instead I challenged for the credit, wrote one test and passed it I know that much about them... Used to do html code but its been so long I don't think I could do it any more.
K. that is one AWESOME looking flower plant. May I ask what species it is.. almost looks like a hybrid we have around here.. hmm what was it called... Ohhh no I can't remember. *looks closer at K's photo* is.. is that a man made pond in the background I see...
Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
b is your slip showing? :rolleyes: you did mean the Cment pond in the bkgrd of JD's pix?Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
All I have is a dry wash that leads to the wetlunds on my property. K
WOW... I think I got up too early *goes and hides in the corner* I can't believe I thought the picture was yours K.. I should have looked twice before I said anything :D.. All I've got on the property is lots of gardens, trees, and cement creatures :D been thinking on putting a pond in
That is a "Dinner plate Dahlia" it's actually a little smaller than a dinner plate, but still large.Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
There is a pond in the yard (with fish), but what you see in the back ground is part of the pool, or as K said (cement pond)
JmJoseph, I don't think they are edible, it would be a lot to eat :rolleyes: I think I'll try to find out.
Yesterday I did my 8 week fertilizing (I started with those 'Jobes mini spikes' 2 to a plant)2nd app after 8 weeks. I put the first 2 in my new Hybrid, which I am hand watering and keeping away from all other plants.:)
I did have to tie up a lot of plant parts that didn't want to cooperate and stay inside the cage, also put up some old metal fencing to help support, it's not pretty, but will keep them off the ground.
I might be pulling in a couple 'Mama Mias' this afternoon. I have a large San Francisco Fog that looks absolutely perfect, maybe ready by the weekend.:D
No more sign of disease, but one plant 'Big Boy' isn't looking too good, and my other 'Big Boy' still looks like a baby plant.:confused:
News on UDT...
Only have about 5 toms and 4 just recently appeared. My first tom from a while ago is small a little bigger than a golf ball and it is starting to ripen:eek: Maybe the rest will do a little better.
Deb
There now, don't be so hard on yourself. It happens to the best of us. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
Okay, timeout's over... You can come out an play with the rest of us... :D
Seriously... :rolleyes:, I need to play "Smokey the Bear" and help put a fire out.
First I have to qualify what I want to discuss:
Did anyone know that they have tom plants and toms for dinner on the (ISS) International Space Station?
More on that later. Now I can tie this in. It may be covered in the Science or Computers and technology forums of AMHD. I thought this died six years ago...
Neighbor Harry called me last night and asked me; Is Mars, going to be the closest it ever has to Earth, and as big as the full Moon this August?
I'm not going to get into a long explanation, because it doesn't deserve anyone's time.
You can read 'bout it here:
NASA - The Mars Hoax Goes Viral
snopes.com: Mars Close to Earth
SPACE.com -- Mars Hoax Circulates: 'Big as the Moon!'
It's at the bottom here:
NASA - Science@NASA
The truth is that Mars is not an "Evening Star", and is barely a "Morning Star" in being paired with Venus. It will not be conveniently visible to North America till 'round December.
Mars in August 2009
If anyone tries to tell you different... You tell them from me that "It's all a bunch of Hooey"
Thank You! I'll go an put my soapbox away now, and stand in the corner for a while...
On a lighter side...
Try to see Friday's edition of NFTB, the asexual post has me intrigued and I'm putting together a short presentation on "Propagating Double Impatiens".
'Bout the ISS there will be an excellent sighting for almost six minutes, tonight, and most of the East Coast (except So. Georgia, Fla. and "b" :( if your in northern N.S., not sure 'bout jmj) from 9:57pm edt to 10:03pm edt
Ground Track Plot
JD, I know it looks strange compared to mine, but here it is:
Ground Track Plot
If I have this right it will overfly London five minutes later for almost five minutes
Ground Track Plot
Keep in mind.......these are all Local times........
K
Its probably the heat spell you've gone through, i.e. heat stress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
Have you heard back from county extension?
No they are ignoring me, which is surprising since the State does a lot with tomatoes, but maybe I wasn't important enough:(Quote:
Originally Posted by KUXJ
I have a pic, not quite as cool as K's. I added some basil and green beans (which I have been ignoring:o) from the garden.:D Attachment 21775
My Mama Mia (Roma)
My Dear, you are being Far... far, too modest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Dahlia
I hesitate to put a monetary value on the culmination of your efforts, but, You could charge Ten dollars American for that appetizer at La Folie.
Love the plate.....Heirloom China?
Write Co. ext. again and shake their indeterminate vines. You might be surprised to see what happens.
Steve
JD... well I'd have to say that is one awesome looking flower and one yummy looking plate of veggies :D
K. I've come back to play... I do believe if I read the national geographic website correctly and remember it all right I do believe they are trying to grow veggies in space mind you I don't know if they are trying tom's or not. I think seeing mars would be neat... mind you I don't believe the hoaxes going around. I've got friends going on about the end of the world in 2012 and all that stuff... I just cant, won't and will not believe it until viable information from someone like nasa comes out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by binx44
Bin, 2012 is the end of the world according to the Mayan calendar.
Ohh I know tick... but at the same time many people and religions all say they have and know the date of the end of the world and no two of them are the same date...
Many theories have been advanced to interpret why, the Mayans stopped their Tzolkin at the Baktun of
12 ~ 21 ~ 2012
Some have even pegged it at 11:11am GMT
I am not sure which I believe in. they all have, some valid points.
The strongest for me; is the Mayans felt it would be a time of transition.
A transition to what?
The Attachment is the Mayan Glyph for the date.
This is available for more study:
time for 12-21-2012 - Google Search
This is a physiological leaf curl. The large-fruited varieties are more prone to it. Nothing can or need be done about it.
I don't see a need in worrying because nothing can be done about it anyway. I believe we will go in a tremendous catalyst of varying degrees starting soemwhere in the world. That is to say, another continent will perish first and then possibly the one we are on.
I don't think having an underground bunker with supplies to last a certain amount of time is going to do any good.
There is absolutely too much technology available to world powers as it stands right now. What different does it make actually, who does it first. They will be doing it to themselves as well.
A passive tick just enjoying what she has and living for the moment and enjoying those she loves to the fullest of her capabilities. Salute the Mayans !
Hugs to all
Hi! jomercer, Welcome to AMHD, and the UDT thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jomercer
I believe your in reference to Just Dahlia's Leaf Curl Pix's on; Page 9 ~ Post 86. Can you verify that?
When you say "physiological" do you mean a type of stress? What type?
Can you cite references for verification?
K
I am in complete agreement with those points! Thanks for the Hug, I needed one. KQuote:
Originally Posted by tickle
Its been a while now and I realized... I don't have an avatar.
Since We've recently touched on the Mayan Culture, and I have more than a passing interest in them.
I decided to use one of their Glyphs as one, for now. It represents Earth.
I will be using the following two links to understand. The first may be too dry for some tastes.
Please watch on the second, Google search link. I found some dead links on the "authentic" sites.
Prehistoric Intensive Agriculture in the Mayan Lowlands
K
I love that you chose that symbol K.. Its also very intresting looking. I was thinking of getting a myan tattoo but I wasn't sure where to begin looking for proper glyphs. So far I have a lady bug tattoo (prosperity and luck) two butterflies (love and freedom) Its nice to see you with an avitar finally :D
I've always loved ancient culture. I love learning new things and discovering things that are used today that were actually used long ago.. for example. . I found out yesterday that a few hundred years AD the chinese actually had flamethrowers (dont you just love the ancient histroy channel) neat huh.
Got lots of planning to do today. Our friends daughters 10th birthday party is today and I've got to get her something. And I'm going to start drawing flower bed plans by my front door I get wicked good sunlight there where in my last place the windows were badly placed and I got NO sun at all and no sun around the front door we had (which was all the property we had LOL) so I get to go nuts.. might not plant anything but it'll be nice to have it all planned and marked and ready to go
Physiological in the sense that it's not a pest or disease. Some cultivars just do it more than others and some envrionmental factors such a cool temps could be involved . Any Extension home garden tomato publication talks about it.
Here's one from North Dakota with a good picture under the "non-parasitic" bookmark--they call it "leaf roll":
Disease Management in Home-Grown Tomatoes
Jo Mercer (former Extension horticulturist)
Western shore MD, Zone 7, Sandy loam
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Originally Posted by KUXJ
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