I've got the Topsy Turvy and the five gallon bucket ones, and they both are doing great! I've got mine hung up high, probably 8 feet up, to get them away from the deer on our property. The rest of our garden is inside of a 9 foot high electric fence. (The deer eat our azaleas in our front flower bed). I'm wondering how far down they grow too, but am pleased so far. I couldn't find the T-T ones quick enough, so I made them out of the buckets. I cut the hole like yours too, but I cut two holes on each bucket and am growing two plants in each one.Good luck and happy gardening!

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I've got everything labeled except for the UDT, so I'll check when I get home and report. I have 2 of each, so I'll be able to see if both have the leaf curl.:confused:

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It is not very well known, but the first acknowledged instance of a curly leaf tomato occurred in 1977. It has only been found in the determinate variety.
The dwarf curly leaf tomato mutant -- Journal of Heredity

PDF photo of plant at bottom, it's a little hard to see:
Notes: Additional studies with tomato mutant, curl -- Journal of Heredity


Well... Sunday at 1:45am edt, is the big day, Summer solstice.

Dates/Times to 2050 can be found here:
NWS Indianapolis, IN

A discussion on why this happens, here:
Earth's Seasons

Which can be found here:
Naval Oceanography Portal

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:) but i am loving reading on how yours are going and the things that effect/affect (not sure exactally the right word) the plants and the reasons why

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Far be it from me to be a grammar notzi :rolleyes:, but I thought you would enjoy this... P.S... Check your rep.

How Does the Effect Affect You?
Grammar Girl :: Effect Versus Affect

It's waay late, but I needed to organize the project. See Attacment.

I hope you don't mind me shortening your monikers to JD, and b44, You can call me anything, just not late for supper! :eek:

Thank You Both Ladies, You have made my day!

See Ya 'round the compost pile!
KUXJ


P.P.S... I see we have a new correspondent. Welcome aboard jmjoseph or jj as the case may be. :)

P.P.P.S... Just Dahlia, I wanted to add to your rep also... But... I have to spread mine around first. :(

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I've got the Topsy Turvy and the five gallon bucket ones, and they both are doing great! I've got mine hung up high, probably 8 feet up, to get them away from the deer on our property. The rest of our garden is inside of a 9 foot high electric fence. (The deer eat our azaleas in our front flower bed).

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9' that is a large tract. :cool:

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I've had toms go 16' :eek: (Gotta love that barn yard dirt I got from a local farmer)

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but am pleased so far. I couldn't find the T-T ones quick enough, so I made them out of the buckets. I cut the hole like yours too, but I cut two holes on each bucket and am growing two plants in each one.Good luck and happy gardening!

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Yes! Thank You, and the same for you. May your plow never touch a rock.

See Ya 'round the compost pile!
KUXJ

I don't know what the big deal is about these 'upside down' tomatoe plants and as a gardener could care less about them. They sell them at our nurseries dirt cheap already in a plastic bag, with the tomatoe plants already started and growing. I don't buy them.

I had a farm for many years so know what is is like to plant MANY tomatoe plants of different varieties.

They are basically used by patio gardeners with no space to grow the in ground tomatoe plants.

One cannot get the good beefy beefsteak out of a tomatoe plant like this; so what's the point ?

Tick I M O

Can I be sent to Hawaii since I am the roving Botanist?:cool:
I promise to search every where!:D

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Can I be sent to Hawaii since I am the roving Botanist?:cool:
I promise to search every where!:D

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No, you can't go to Hawaii because you haven't passed GO yet, you have to go back to the boardwalk !

Hey, you and I posted simultaeosly, day ! How the heck are you anyway!

The tick

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Can I be sent to Hawaii since I am the roving Botanist?:cool:
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Sure, you remember Rickenbacker Refrigerated Air Freight ~~~~~"Need Freight by Eight? Their headed that way, and they have an opening next Friday night.
Ahh... Do you know how to use a parachute?

Hey tick! we're passing the hat for Just Dahlia, you have any spare change?


See Ya 'round the compost pile!
KUXJ

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No, you can't go to Hawaii because you havent passed GO yet, you have to go back to the boardwalk !

Hey, you and i posted simultaeosly, day ! How the heck are you anyway !!

the tick

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That is just not right in sooo many ways! I've seen the boardwalk, want to go to Hawaii.

I'm doing good, been busy at home and too many complicated questions for my pea brain too answer correctly, even though I throw my 2 cents in occasionally.:D

Everybody has their own opinion about these. They can be used anywhere regardless of how much room you have, and ANY variety can be grown, even cucumbers. One huge draw is that you don't have to stake them. They do grow quicker too. I've got these and the basket style too. Oh well, good luck to all. Don't forget about the fried green tomato!

I've seen Petunias and all sorts of stuff grown in bags, but that was in Oregon. The had many holes all over (even on the sides) and was beautiful.:)

I had a lot of fun measuring these plants, I really need to get a life:eek:
This is all from right to left. (think Hebrew)

33" x 1' Super Steak in ground all alone by the beans. No toms yet
32" x 1'1" Early Girl w/toms. some leaf curl (slight)
37 x 2'3" Early Girl w/toms
32 x 2' Mamma Mia w/toms
25' x 1 1/2' Mama Mia w/toms (in a pot) the one with the crazy leaf curl!
27" x 10" UDT w/toms
4' x 2' Big Beef w/toms (little curly) maybe dry:confused:
Then a dwarf Tangerine tree
3 1/2' x 2' Big Beef w/toms (has a little shade) behind a bunch of flowers
4' x 2' Super Steak w/toms (has a little shade) behind a bunch of flowers
4' x 2' San Francisco Fog w/toms in pot) think U-Turn and then almost in front of the UDT.

So... that's my line up:cool: I plan to make Salsa and eat raw. I bought a Monster Pressure Cooker on EBAY for half the price at the stores and am reading ALL the instructions, so nothing blows up.

I just love Tomatoes!:D Can't wait to see what happens.

Sorry, that was long!:rolleyes:

Lol I was reading your project outline and I noticed.. I don't know how I missed this last time that you don't know how old we are lol... I'm 22 :D
I didn't know there was a genetic mutation with tomato plants causing the weird leaf curl. I assumed maybe that with the big location difference maybe it was humidity or some insect that you KU didn't have at your location.

Out of all the plants do you think the hybreds are doing better gowing upside down, the other breeds/types or do you think they are all growing in equal quality (though I guess that might play a lot on variety)

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I had a lot of fun measuring these plants, I really need to get a life:eek:
This is all from right to left. (think Hebrew)

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Nothing to be embarrassed about, You already have one and that's sharing this beautiful planet with those around you. It shows in your first few words; “I had a lot of fun”.
Strange you should say right to left, To this day I usually read magazines from back to front

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33" x 1' Super Steak in ground all alone by the beans. No toms yet
32" x 1'1" Early Girl w/toms. some leaf curl (slight)
37 x 2'3" Early Girl w/toms
32 x 2' Mamma Mia w/toms
25' x 1 1/2' Mama Mia w/toms (in a pot) the one with the crazy leaf curl!
27" x 10" UDT w/toms
4' x 2' Big Beef w/toms (little curly) maybe dry:confused:
Then a dwarf Tangerine tree
3 1/2' x 2' Big Beef w/toms (has a little shade) behind a bunch of flowers
4' x 2' Super Steak w/toms (has a little shade) behind a bunch of flowers
4' x 2' San Francisco Fog w/toms in pot) think U-Turn and then almost in front of the UDT.

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That's quite a list! I mentioned the curl on pg.4 Because of the unusual edge pattern. If you save seeds, it would be interesting to see if you could recreate that trait in next years crop. I offer this link for saving/storage.
Saving Tomato Seeds - Seed Saving for Next Year's Tomato Crop

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So... that's my line up:cool: I plan to make Salsa and eat raw. I bought a Monster Pressure Cooker on EBAY for half the price at the stores and am reading ALL the instructions, so nothing blows up.

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If it's a newer one they are pretty much fool-proof. When I borrow my Mom's I have to watch, sometimes the regulator will pop off. Its older than me. 58 this Aug.

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I just love Tomatoes!:D Can't wait to see what happens.

Sorry, that was long!:rolleyes:

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For binx44:

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lol i was reading your project outline and i noticed.. i dont know how i missed this last time that you dont know how old we are lol... I'm 22 :D

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Aww... Ya took all the mystery out. I didn't know what type of reaction I would get when I put that in there, besides, its not polite for a Gentleman to inquire of a Ladies age.

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I didnt know there was a genetic mutation with tomato plants causing the weird leaf curl. I assumed maybe that with the big location difference maybe it was humidity or some insect that you KU didnt have at your location.

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That's what I thought.. ”weird leaf curl” it really didn't look like a environment/pest/disease characteristic. I can't think of it now, but it reminded me of a type of pasta, JD can call it “Pasta Tom”. I hope she tries the seed for next year.

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Out of all the plants do you think the hybreds are doing better gowing upside down, the other breeds/types or do you think they are all growing in equal quality (though i guess that might play alot on variety)

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Good question! At this point I would say equal.

Just Dahlia reported worse in comparison to hers... Standard UDT package.
jmjoseph reported the same or better in comparison to mine... 5gal bucket.

That's why I said earlier 'bout my theory; The larger container is giving better results.

The TV ads might be right, the other day we were in the blue big box, and I saw a 3gal. Container with a tom plant in it that already had tennis ball size fruit. Normal orientation
They may be able to do it, but only under GreenHouse conditions.

p.s... ”News from the Bucket” will be late tomorrow. I need to point my energies in a different direction.

See Ya 'round the compost pile!
KUXJ

I'll be 50 on Christmas Day!:eek::eek::eek:
Actually I have no problem and am loving it:D

I am giving more water to the leaf curl ones, lets see what happens;)

Let me be the first!. Nifty, Nifty, look who's...

That's the spirit!. K

LOL 49 but 29 at heart I bet Dahlia :D
K it might not be polite for a gentleman to ask a ladies age but its quite all right for a lady to just spit it out :D lol
I hope she does try the same plant strain next year it would be neat to see if its genetic... It does seem like the bigger "bucket: is yielding better results and I do think that on TV they used a greenhouse personally have a good one everyone. I'm off for the weekend to meet my great aunt tomorrow, take the dog for his checkup anf run errands and I have a bbq on Sunday so I might not be around.. looking forward to more news Monday though if I don't get on sooner

KU I read about saving the seeds and the pictures were so clear I swear I started smelling tomatoes:p

It all seems pretty easy, so as long as I remember and I get some good tomatoes I will try it. I have a small greenhouse I can start them in next year. Labeling 'Pasta Tom'

Have a nice weekend Binx:)

June 19, 2009
News from the Bucket...


BB's new progeny are doing well have 'bout doubled in size to 1¼” in a weeks time, and there is one more starting to push on the same stem.
I've 'bout given up on the original fruit stem, it still looks healthy, but no fruit.

I'd have to check the growth record for last week I believe it was 38”vertical, but vertical this week is 46”, and horizontal is 34”. I have 17” to go before BB starts scraping the ground at which point I'll start draping him around the deck.
With this being the pilot season, and no previous information to go on I do not know if 8” of growth in seven days can be normal or not.

The only change this week was the weather, not as much rain, and a tad more Sun.
For once this season both reporting stations are in close agreement:
BBX... 1.00” NWS 0.98”.
Tonight into Sunday afternoon there is a system coming in from the Mid-West that could double that. Then seasonal the rest of the week. H81° L61°

Taken from the NWS:
Saturday: Showers and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain and frequent lightning. High near 81. Light wind becoming west between 13 and 16 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches possible.

Hope it doesn't ruin Father's Day for any of you.


This week had a nice surprise, we had two new well, new to this thread Botanist's share their insight with us; jmjoseph, and tick.

jmjoseph, from that Great State of Georgia who's running his own version of the Ponderosa there. His garden is 'bout half the size of my property 70'x300'. And...

Tick, from that Great Country of Canada, from what I've been able to gather she has worked in Landscaping.
I have to agree to a degree with ticks statement 'bout UDT's and all the fuss. That's what got me started the fuss. I do believe it can be a viable propagation method in some situations.

Welcome aboard jmjoseph, and Ms tick! Stop by anytime.

And, how can I ever forget the “better half” of the team. Just Dahlia, and binx44 and their insight.

JD... Change in plans.
Eddie, the pilot from Rickenbacker Air Freight told me they Will be landing in Honolulu, you'll still have to wear the 'chute.

b44... Hope your trip was okay, we're planning a bbq Sunday too. Good question last time, really made me think.

See Ya round the compost pile

K

Edited:
06-20-09 07:30am edt, Correcting a Social Blunder

Have a great Fathers Day!:D

Comments on this post:
Just Dahlia agrees: I'm pretty sure Tick is a woman

:eek: Well then if that's true, a faux pas on my part! :o
I fell into my own trap. I feel every time someone assumes, (i.e. me), They don't make an A** out of you, just the me part.
If tick gets this in time, and I can still edit, I'll change the pronouns to ♀

Sooo...
In the interest of International Harmony and Good Will. :)

To Tick:
I humbly offer my deepest apologies.

And my Kindest Regards... KUXJ

Hi guys. No offence taken. How would anyone know from my moniker what sex I am. However, I do sign from time to time as mizz tickle. Nowadays I guess using 'mizz' doesn't appear to be gender based.

Yes, I am a woman, all 5 ft. 2 in. of me. I am a Personal Support Worker and a Registered Nurses Aid and I work for the Canadian Red Cross. However, have worked in landscaping for a time, and also had my own catering company too.

Many hats make light work, sort of.

Have a great Fathers Day!

Mizz tick

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hi guys. No offence taken. How would anyone know from my moniker what sex I am. However, I do sign from time to time as mizz tickle. Nowadays I guess using 'mizz' doesnt appear to be gender based.

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Thank You.
I did catch one of your posts where you signed off as Ms tick, but it still stuck as a husband/wife thing. “There I went assuming again” :rolleyes:
I remember when it was started, it was used to blur the distinction between a married and single woman.

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Yes, I am a woman, all 5 ft. 2 in. of me. I am a Personal Support Worker and a Registered Nurses Aid and I work for the Canadian Red Cross. However, have worked in landscaping for a time, and also had my own catering company too.

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Being one of the Lord's angels bestows Great honor. My hat is off to you! :)

p.s. I made the corrections

"Best Regards"

KUXJ... aka... Steve



"Let us be grateful to people who make us happy, they are the charming gardeners who make our souls blossom."
- Marcel Proust

My next door neighbor bought two of those upside down planters. One kept falling off the hook in the yard due to the squirrels jumping on it. She replaced that planter with the other one on the porch after that incident. So far her tomato plants are not getting very large. Glad I didn't try that route this year.

Hi! twinkiedooter, Welcome aboard :)

We have the ubiquitous Eastern Gray Squirrel (Sciurus carolinensis) Eastern Gray Squirrel - Wikipedia, and so far they are not using the pool deck as one of their routes.

My concern is the weight of the whole assembly hanging only by the handle. I've been in a few "bucket brigades" where the handle mount broke and the contents went flying.

See Ya round the compost pile

K

The trend in tomatoes around here is I think called 'heritage tomatoes'. They are seeds that have been found on archeological sites around the Humber river in Toronto, anywhere pioneers settled and grew corn, root vegetables and squash tomatoes, etc.

Over the last few years they have developed new plants from these seeds and are sold at veg stands, expensive but interesting.

Tick

One question.. :D Is anyone growing both UDT and RST (regular standing tomato) at the same time in the same growth peroid and started them both at the same time? If so I think it would be intresting to see if maybe the growth cycle differs in any way at all (ie.. One growing quicker/slower then the other, tomato growth size difference{within the same species})

The meeting with my Aunt went awesome... Hubby came with me and turns out her and I have more in common with each other then with the rest of the family lol. Had plenty of rain so far this weekend and going to get more rain this week so I think I won't be able to get any gardening done.

Haha another question has just popped into my head that I would like to know.. what's the average growth peroid for tomato plants and what are the best months to grow them.or can they be started anytime in the spring and summer (with thought to as when cold weather would set in)

Happy fathers day all (even though it is tomorrow) and welcome to all the new comers :D

[quote=binx44;1809186]One question.. :D Is anyone growing both UDT and RST (regular standing tomato) at the same time in the same growth peroid and started them both at the same time? If so I think it would be intresting to see if maybe the growth cycle differs in any way at all (ie.. One growing quicker/slower then the other, tomato growth size difference{within the same species})

ME:D ME:D ME:D
I started all mine at the same time and have 2 of each variety 10 total(see previous posts) they are all growing at their own rate, but I seem to have a curious leaf curl on one 'Mama mia' and one 'Early girl.:eek:

The SFF UDT is growing slower than the SFF Standard pot, But some others are also slower than their sisters/brothers and the rest are in the ground.

At this point, I just hope that I will get some tomatoes, so I don't have to buy them at the market. It seems slow going, but I have never watched them this close before.:)

KUXJ
How come when I quote someone, it doesn't turn up blue like yours?
What am I doing wrong? :confused:

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KUXJ
how come when I quote someone, it doesn't turn up blue like yours?
What am I doing wrong? :confused:

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Do you mean like this? Bare with me, I think I can show it.

When you want to quote someone you click on the quote user button. This shows up

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how come when I quote someone, it doesn't turn up blue like yours?
What am I doing wrong? :confused:
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The reason this is not "blue" is because I removed the ending brackets after 7...and the last E. as an example.

You have the power to edit your posts for 24hrs. If you go back to your response to binx44 and where her double brackets end, Type [/quote]

It will look like this...

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One question.. :D Is anyone growing both UDT and RST (regular standing tomato) at the same time in the same growth peroid and started them both at the same time? if so i think it would be intresting to see if maybe the growth cycle differs in any way at all (ie.. One growing quicker/slower then the other, tomato growth size difference{within the same species})

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Do you mean like this? Bare with me, I think I can show it.

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Like this?

:cool: By Jove, I think she's got it! :cool:

Jd, you beat me to it!.

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One question.. :D Is anyone growing both UDT and RST (regular standing tomato) at the same time in the same growth peroid and started them both at the same time? if so i think it would be intresting to see if maybe the growth cycle differs in any way at all (ie.. One growing quicker/slower then the other, tomato growth size difference{within the same species})

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Just Dahlia would be the closest. She has UDT and RST in containers, but to have the experiment under control the UDT's and RST's would have to be of the same family.
The same amount of light, water, and soil. Even with greenhouse conditions My theory would be, “one plant will out-do an other”

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The meeting with my Aunt went awesome... Hubby came with me and turns out her and i have more in common with eachother then with the rest of the family lol. Had plenty of rain so far this weekend and going to get more rain this week so i think i wont be able to get any gardening done.

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That's great! and I had nothing to do with sending the rain spirits your way.

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Haha another question has just popped into my head that i would like to know.. whats the average growth peroid for tomato plants and what are the best months to grow them.

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For the determinate variety, and the indeterminate indefinitely. Only size differs in the two, See A World Record! for “Tomato Tree” in Disney World. I seem to remember its been growing for several years... now where'd I put that link? :confused:
The best months would be one's that the average temp is above 70°F ~ 21.11°C toms love heat!

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They can be started any time as long as the seeds are properly prepared. Tomato plants are technically a perennial even though they are treated as an annual. Under the right conditions a tomato plant will continue to grow for years.

K

Hey tomato ranchers, anyone have a sure fire cure for blossom-end rot? I don't mean pre-planting advice, I mean end it now ideas. Can it be stopped at this stage? Been lucky, never had it , until now. It's on one of the gravity defying ones. Thanks.

Blossom End Rot is caused by a lack of calcium.
The real problem is that the plant is unable to absorb the calcium that is in your soil due to an uneven supply of water.

It is essential to keep the soil consistently moist rather than let the soil completely dry out and then water fully. This extreme fluctuation is almost a surefire way to induce blossom end rot.

Too much nitrogen in the soil can also cause rot. In this case, a handful of lime around the base of each plant might help In your case put a little on the top.
It is important to cut back on your fertilizing or switch to a brand that has a low nitrogen and high phosphorous to high potassium ratio.

Other conditions that may bring about blossom end rot are weather-related: extreme changes from hot to cool temperatures, stress from drought, and heavy rains after a dry spell.

Mist the plants affected with milk (for the calcium), you could even pour some on the top.

I know this has been discussed on another thread, and one problem is the smell. The reason it smells is because the Pasteurizing/Homogenizing process kills all the “good” bacteria” and the milk becomes rancid.

If you can find raw milk Do you have any milkers on the “Ponderosa”? You will have better success, you'll still have a smell, (it will still sour, which is a lot different than rancid) but not as bad. Oh, and don't forget the breakfast eggshells...


K

JD
Hmm and with the curious leaf curl you've cancelled out diesease, infestation, weather problems? Could just be a genetic trait passed down through generations but skipping some generations. I wonder if the UDT are growing slower because of being upsidedown or because all plants grow at their own rate regardless of genetics and species.
Aww Dahlia I'm sure you will have some soon tomatoes are my favorite veggie... (they are a veggie are they not or are they classified as a fruit. I know some plants are classed as one when you would expect them to be called the other

K : I suppose that could always be an experiment for another time... trying to recreate the same soil, sun, water ratio for each might be a little difficult if you don't have a greenhouse setup.. HMM I need a greenhouse I wonder if the hubby would let me build one :D

I'm hoping your not the one who sent the rain spirits our way.. its muggy ontop of it all which isn't any fun... humidex of 25 Celsius with rain tomorrow. ( I'm canadian I use C not F lol)

So then since in our area the average temp doesn't seem to be reaching 20 or 21 as of yet a greenhouse setup would be best... Nova scotia seems to see a lot of cool rainy or muggy rainy days here but nothing real happy so far this year just a few Hot days with some wicked nice sun... at least my hostas I replanted are doing awesome

How would you properly prepare tomato seeds for planting and if you were going to give the UTD a shot how would I go about making the bucket. Our deck is stable enough as we just built it lol :D

I did not know they were a pernennial... wow that's neat. You learn new things each morning lol

May the sun always be at your back and warming the path in front of your feet :D
Blessed be and merry part

Before I get started this is for jmjoseph:
Dilute the milk 50:50, you don't need to apply it full strength.
My apologies. It was late, and I was sleepy.

OKAY!

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Aww Dahlia i'm sure you will have some soon tomatoes are my favorite veggie.... (they are a veggie are they not or are they classified as a fruit. i know some plants are classed as one when you would expect them to be called the other

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Supreme Court decision:
Nix v. Hedden - Wikipedia
Reaganomics:
Ketchup as a vegetable - Wikipedia

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K : I suppose that could always be an experiment for another time... trying to recreate the same soil, sun, water ratio for each might be a little difficult if you dont have a greenhouse setup.. HMM i need a greenhouse i wonder if the hubby would let me build one :D

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Click on greenhouse plans.
Agricultural Building and Equipment Plan List

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I'm hoping your not the one who sent the rain spirits our way.. its muggy ontop of it all which isnt any fun... humidex of 25 celcius with rain tomorrow. ( i'm canadian i use C not F lol)

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:eek: NOT ME!. NOT ME! :eek:
25°c humidex,that is high, as I write its 14°c here, partly sunny temp 24°c

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So then since in our area the average temp doesnt seem to be reaching 20 or 21 as of yet a greenhouse setup would be best... Nova scotia seems to see alot of cool rainy or muggy rainy days here but nothing real happy so far this year just a few Hot days with some wicked nice sun... at least my hostas i replanted are doing awesome

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There are T-shirts in Bar Harbor, Maine that say “we only have one month of summer, and that's august”

Hosta's would be well suited for your climate.
The American Hosta Society
Hosta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
HOSTA LIBRARY

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How would you properly prepare tomato seeds for planting and if you were going to give the UTD a shot how would i go about making the bucket. our deck is stable enough as we just built it lol :D

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Try this site Just Dahlia seemed quite taken with it.
Saving Tomato Seeds - Seed Saving for Next Year's Tomato Crop

K,
Thanks a ton for the links there's nothing better then some first thing in the morning reading... loving the agricultural building plans link you sent... I have most of the things I need for a greenhouse sitting in the shed and I didn't even know it :D.

Its quite intresting how the fruit/veggi discussion actually went to court to be determined...
LOL sounds like my kind of shirt been waiting for the warm weather to hit soon as I'm going to be taking the dog tubing down the river lol. Is Maine where you are from? Nova Scotia is around 5 to 10 hours drive from Maine.. I've always wanted to go there mind you I've never been outside of canada. Thinking on making a trip down to South Carolina to take a look at a dog breeder down there too.

Hosta's do very well down here and I've now got my hubbys mother growing them in her flower gardens too... (we just expanded her property by almost an acre) now to just put in her rock paths she wanted. She decided that insead of growing corn this year (which she does in the back yard) she's going to build another garden area and do rasberries and strawberries though her plants don't seem to be doing that well. I believe the phesants are eating them on her.

I'm thinking my leaf curl is 'Tabacco mosaic virus'
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And if that is the case I might have to toss those plants before it spreads.:(

Unfortunately, now that I see a larger pix, I believe your right.

Comparable view:
Tomato Mosaic Virus

Click on pix for larger view:
APSnet Education Center - Plant Disease Lessons - Tobacco mosaic virus

My Condolences :(

NOOOO:eek::eek::eek:
Say it ain't so!
I'm going to take a close up picture when I get home and post it, so you can compare. I would hate to have to toss 3 plants, they are so big and beautiful with toms.

The second site you posted looks nothing like mine. Mine are more like parsley curl on some and just weird on theirs. Just the top new leaves.

Maybe I can just cut them off?:confused: