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Did the first man receive this package at his home?
Did the second man receive this package at his home?
Are these particular woods relevant?
Is the arm from a female? Male?
Is the arm from a child? Teenager? Adult?
Was the arm severed in some type of accident?
The Arm of the Postal Service
One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?
I have mine set to 40 posts a page. I'll keep my eyes open and do it every 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
I thought you were going that way vs the stinky mess. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Did the first man receive this package at his home? Yes
Did the second man receive this package at his home? Yes
Are these particular woods relevant? No
Is the arm from a female? No Male? Yes
Is the arm from a child? No
Teenager? No
Adult? Yes
Was the arm severed in some type of accident? No
Okay - dinner is ready. I'll be back afterwards. :)
Did the original "owner" of the arm send it to the first man?
Was the arm buried before being sent to the first man?
OK, we've established that "either" of the men knew the person the arm came off... so...
Did the first man know the person the arm came off? Did the second?
Was the second man's profession relevant?
I can help by doing it if I'm around - I even know which post will be at the top of the page. (It's the 1, i.e. 291 is next.) I can even do summaries, considering I'm already copying it all to a file anyway.Quote:
I have mine set to 40 posts a page. I'll keep my eyes open and do it every 10.Quote:
That's why I post the puzzle again at the tops of new pages. It always feels a little redundant, but you never know when someone will pop in suddenly.
OK, wasn't an accident.
Did someone intentional sever this arm?
Was medical science involved?
Is it correct that the person this arm came from originally did have two arms like everyone else?
Is it a whole arm, including a hand? (Most of an arm counts.)
Is the "armless" person a relative of the first man? The second man?
Are the two men related to each other?
Are the woods part of the property of the second man?
Well, you've shot down all my ideas with your answer, so I'm getting a little stumped. And I thought the relocation of an archeological find was pretty brilliant. :D
Did man 2 bury something else with the arm? Was something else already buried in the spot where the arm was buried?
Was any ritual associated with this burial?
Did the original "owner" of the arm send it to the first man? Yes
Was the arm buried before being sent to the first man? No
OK, we've established that "either" of the men knew the person the arm came off... so...
Did the first man know the person the arm came off? Yes
Did the second? Yes
Was the second man's profession relevant? No
Did someone intentional sever this arm? Yes
Was medical science involved? No
Is it correct that the person this arm came from originally did have two arms like everyone else? Yes
Is it a whole arm, including a hand? (Most of an arm counts.) Yes
Is the "armless" person a relative of the first man? No
The second man? No
Are the two men related to each other? No
Are the woods part of the property of the second man? I would think so, but it's not really relevant.
Well, you've shot down all my ideas with your answer, so I'm getting a little stumped. And I thought the relocation of an archeological find was pretty brilliant. :D That is brilliant, but wrong. :D
Did man 2 bury something else with the arm? No
Was something else already buried in the spot where the arm was buried? No
Was any ritual associated with this burial? No
Did the armless man sever his own freakin' arm?
If not, did the armless man know the person who severed his arm?
(I am starting to think someone here needs to see a psychiatrist.)
So, they all knew each other, but weren't related. Nice, happy little non-family. Okey dokey.
Were the three of them friends?
Were the three of them old Army buddies? (navy, whatever)
Is it relevant why the arm got severed?
Is it relevant how the arm got severed?
Was the arm in some way damaged or misformed or something of the sort?
Did the armless man sever his own freakin' arm? Yes
If not, did the armless man know the person who severed his arm? N/A
(I am starting to think someone here needs to see a psychiatrist.) Who, me? :rolleyes:
So, they all knew each other, but weren't related. Nice, happy little non-family. Okey dokey.
Were the three of them friends? Not necessarily.
Were the three of them old Army buddies? (navy, whatever) No.
Is it relevant why the arm got severed? Yes
Is it relevant how the arm got severed? I think mainly you got the relevance - that it was severed by the armless man.
Was the arm in some way damaged or misformed or something of the sort? No
The Arm of the Postal Service
One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?
You said it, not me.Quote:
(I am starting to think someone here needs to see a psychiatrist.) Who, me? :rolleyes:
But, it's still relevant why he did it? (Seems like it would be.)Quote:
Is it relevant why the arm got severed? Yes
Is it relevant how the arm got severed? I think mainly you got the relevance - that it was severed by the armless man.
Was his arm like caught in something and he had to cut it off to get free?
(But then why would someone bury it in the woods. That doesn't make sense.)
Was there any kind of religious/cult belief involved?
Is the only reason he shipped by mail just due to distance?
Where's Unky? We need new questions. :eek:
Did he cut it off for the purpose of burying it?
Is the armless man at home? (not literally, but I mean not traveling, not off at college, etc.)
OK, I'm making the assumption that the three men were not located very close to each other, hence shipping the arm rather than just driving it there. Is this correct?
I don't feel like waiting on the answer, so pretending for the moment that's true, does or did the armless man live near the 2nd (burying) man?
Was confirmed earlier man 1 got instructions to send to man 2.
Did these instructions come from the armless man?
Did man 2 also get instruction to bury the arm?
If so, did those instructions come from the armless man?
But, it's still relevant why he did it? (Seems like it would be.) Yes
Was his arm like caught in something and he had to cut it off to get free? No
(But then why would someone bury it in the woods. That doesn't make sense.)
Was there any kind of religious/cult belief involved? No
Is the only reason he shipped by mail just due to distance? That's what I would assume.
Where's Unky? We need new questions. :eek: Yes ;)
Did he cut it off for the purpose of burying it? No
Is the armless man at home? (not literally, but I mean not traveling, not off at college, etc.) Yes
OK, I'm making the assumption that the three men were not located very close to each other, hence shipping the arm rather than just driving it there. Is this correct? That's what I would assume.
I don't feel like waiting on the answer, so pretending for the moment that's true, does or did the armless man live near the 2nd (burying) man? I don't know, so I guess that means it's irrelevant.
Weird - I answered these before but must not have hit the submit button. That means it's bedtime after I answer again... though if tonight is like the typical night lately, I'll be up again in a couple of hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Are you saying I'm getting nowhere real fast? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Just Looking
Ah, but at least I'm eliminating things. (Not that it's much consolation, but it is necessary to eliminate things.) I'm beginning to believe you that this one is going to be a challenge.
As for your typical night, if you're back up in a couple of hours, I will probably still be around, at least for a bit.
I know it's not the top of a page, and this is also J-Lo's puzzle not mine, but I'm going to take it upon myself to do a summary here, just so anyone coming on new won't have to wade through all that - there's a LOT of questions already. (The organization is just how I had it in my file. Sorry if someone else doesn't like it that way.)
The Arm of the Postal Service
One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?
Was the arm flesh? (not a prosthetic) Yes.
Did the arm belong to either man? No
Was the arm on ice? Yes.
Was the arm off a real human (dead or alive)? Yes
Did the arm belong to anyone that either of these 2 men knew? Yes.
Is the person the arm came from still alive? Yes.
Is there anything left in the way of flesh, muscle, etc. Yes.
Is the arm from a female? No. Male? Yes.
Is the arm from a child? No. Teenager? No. Adult? Yes
Was the arm severed in some type of accident? No.
Did the original "owner" of the arm send it to the first man? Yes.
Was the arm buried before being sent to the first man? No.
Did someone intentional sever this arm? Yes.
Is it correct that the person this arm came from originally did have two arms like everyone else? Yes.
Is it a whole arm, including a hand? (Most of an arm counts.) Yes.
Is the "armless" person a relative of the first man? No. The second man? No.
Did the armless man sever his own freakin' arm? Yes.
Were the three of them friends? Not necessarily.
Were the three of them old Army buddies? (navy, whatever) No
Is it relevant why the arm got severed? Yes.
Is it relevant how the arm got severed? I think mainly you got the relevance - that it was severed by the armless man.
But, it's still relevant why he did it? Yes.
Was the arm in some way damaged or misformed or something of the sort? No.
Was his arm like caught in something and he had to cut it off to get free? No.
Did he cut it off for the purpose of burying it? No.
Is the armless man at home? (not literally, but I mean not traveling, not off at college, etc.) Yes.
Does or did the armless man live near the 2nd (burying) man? I don't know, so I guess that means it's irrelevant.
1st man:
Did he expect to receive a package? Yes.
Did he expect to specifically receive a human body part? Yes.
If so, did he expect to specifically receive an arm? Yes.
Did he personally know the person who sent it? Yes.
Did he know the man he sent it to? Yes.
Was he instructed at some point to send it to this other man? Yes.
Did these instructions come from the armless man? Yes.
Did the first man do anything to the arm, besides examining it? No
Did he change anything about the packaging when he resent it, other than new packing materials? (i.e. add or remove something, change something, etc.) No.
Did man 1 expect to receive an arm he would recognize? Yes
Did he recognize it? Yes
Is man 1 expecting any more body parts? No.
Did the first man receive this package at his home? Yes.
Did the first man know the person the arm came off? Yes.
Are the two men related to each other? No.
2nd man:
Did man 2 expect to receive the arm from man 1? Yes.
Is man 2 expecting any more body parts? No.
Did man 2 send anything to man 1? No.
Did the second man receive this package at his home? Yes.
Did the second man know the person the arm came off? Yes.
Was the second man's profession relevant? No.
Are the two men related to each other? No.
Did man 2 also get instruction to bury the arm? No.
Are these particular woods relevant? No.
Are the woods part of the property of the second man? I would think so, but it's not really relevant.
Did man 2 bury something else with the arm? No.
Was something else already buried in the spot where the arm was buried? No.
Was any ritual associated with this burial? No.
Was there anything else in the package besides the arm, besides just typical packing materials? No
Did any postal employees know what was inside the package? No.
Was medical science involved? No.
Was there any kind of religious/cult belief involved? No.
Is the only reason he shipped by mail just due to distance? That's what I would assume.
OK, I'm making the assumption that the three men were not located very close to each other, hence shipping the arm rather than just driving it there. Is this correct? That's what I would assume.
OK, so armless man severs his own arm. He sends it to man 1 and instructs him to send it along to man 2. But man 2 is not instructed to bury it?
Have I got that right?
Did man 2 just bury it of his own free will then?
Did anything relevant happen between when man 1 got the arm and when he sent it to man 2?
Did anything relevant happen between when man 2 got the arm and when he buried it?
I admit I'm completely stumped at this point. But you're off in bed, so I'll do something else and think upon it a while
I was asleep when all went fast... and had I not stayed at home today, it'd be already probably solved by the time I come :eek:
Was the arm infected by something?
Is the job of Man 1 relevant?
- Is he a physicist?
- Is he a morgue doctor? ('medecin legiste'... I forgot the technical name if that's not it)
Was the arm carrying some disease?
Was it dangerous?
Was the 'armless' man someone who worked with biohazards?
- Some biological experiments?
- Was he a volunteer for drug testing?
Yea! someone else is here. I ran out of ideas and am just asking junk for the sake of asking.
And it's a mortician. ;) (A little similar to Morticia, but not quite the same.)
Not at the rate we're going.Quote:
I was asleep when all went fast... and had I not stayed at home today, it'd be already probably solved by the time I come :eek:
OK, so armless man severs his own arm. He sends it to man 1 and instructs him to send it along to man 2. But man 2 is not instructed to bury it? There is nothing in the solution that tells me man 2 was instructed to bury it.
Have I got that right? Yes
Did man 2 just bury it of his own free will then? That's how I read it. I don't see anything special in the act of burying the arm, except that stinky mess thing. :p
Did anything relevant happen between when man 1 got the arm and when he sent it to man 2? No
Did anything relevant happen between when man 2 got the arm and when he buried it? No
I admit I'm completely stumped at this point. But you're off in bed, so I'll do something else and think upon it a while Well, as usual, I'm awake for a while now.
I was asleep when all went fast... and had I not stayed at home today, it'd be already probably solved by the time I come :eek: We were waiting for you, Unky. ;)
Was the arm infected by something? No
Is the job of Man 1 relevant? No- Is he a physicist? No- Is he a morgue doctor? No ('medecin legiste'... I forgot the technical name if that's not it)
Was the arm carrying some disease? No
Was it dangerous? No
Was the 'armless' man someone who worked with biohazards? No- Some biological experiments? No- Was he a volunteer for drug testing? No
Thanks for doing the summary. I like the way you arranged it.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Yeah, this one is difficult. I thought so, but every time you ask a question - even when you get a No - I'm thinking... oh, she'll get it. I'm glad it's not too easy. :)
Hm... okay.
Would the armless man die of natural causes if he had not sever his arm?
Would someone kill him if he had not sever his arm?
Was the arm buried because it was then useless?
Did Man 1 expect the arm to be as he examined it?
Is there anything abnormal about the arm besides having been severed?
Did Man 2 examine the arm in the same way as Man 1 did?
Would the armless man die of natural causes if he had not sever his arm? No
Would someone kill him if he had not sever his arm? I don't think so, but it is in the realm of possibilities.
Was the arm buried because it was then useless? I think that must be true.
Did Man 1 expect the arm to be as he examined it? Yes
Is there anything abnormal about the arm besides having been severed? No
Did Man 2 examine the arm in the same way as Man 1 did? Yes, though examine might be a strong word.
Would the armless man die of natural causes if he had not sever his arm? No
Unky, I think I may have read this question wrong. There was nothing physically about the arm that would have killed him - that is not why he severed it. He would not have died of natural causes if the arm was left on until he was old. I don't know how old he is now.
I was trying to find out why it was severed, as it hasn't been established yet. And I still have no clue as to the reason behind it... I was thinking as about an infection, or something of the sort.
Was the armless man ill in any relevant way?
Did the armless man want to sever his arm? Was he forced to?
Did the armless man want to know if he could have his arm attacked to him again?
Did the armless man got his arm severed at work? At home? Another relevant place?
Ok, I need to go now. See you later :)
I was trying to find out why it was severed, as it hasn't been established yet. And I still have no clue as to the reason behind it... I was thinking as about an infection, or something of the sort.
Was the armless man ill in any relevant way? No
Did the armless man want to sever his arm? Was he forced to? Hmmm ... how do I answer this? I would say he did it of his own free will, but some more questions along this line may help you.
Did the armless man want to know if he could have his arm attacked to him again? No, he didn't want to have it attached again.
Did the armless man got his arm severed at work? At home? Another relevant place? Where he got his arm severed is not relevant.
Ok, I need to go now. See you later :) Okay. Have a good day.
I don't think this point is important, but I was just reading over the solution again. At first I thought the armless man severed his arm, but the solution reads that he had it amputated. Slight difference - he had it done vs his doing it himself. Could you even do it yourself?
Did the armless man want to sever his arm? Was he forced to? Hmmm ... how do I answer this? I would say he did it of his own free will, but some more questions along this line may help you.
I'm a little troubled about how I answered this - definitely needs more questions.
Did man 2 have the normal number of body parts?
Did man 3?
Was man 1 paid to have his arm removed?
Was man 1 blackmailed to have his arm removed?
QLP - We are identifying the men as:
Man 1 - first man to receive the arm
Man 2 - second man to receive the arm
Man 3 - We've been calling him the armless man.
Can you re-ask your questions based on this? You've got some insightful questions here.
Okay, I am really tired again, so back to bed. I'll be on in a couple of hours.
Sorry, ok:
Did man 1 have the normal number of body parts?
Did man 2?
Was man 3 paid to have his arm removed?
Was man 3 blackmailed to have his arm removed?
Turns out I still can't sleep. It's going to be a long day. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by QLP
Were Man 1 and Man 2 also one-armed?
Were all three men together when both Man 1 and Man 2 lost their arm?
Were they, in fact, in a shipwreck (or similar) and cut one arm off each man for food, but were rescued before needing to do so by the third man? Did he send/sacrifice his arm because their arm sacrifices kept all three of them alive? Was the examination simply to verify that the arm came from Man 3?
(yeah, I know--I went weird again. But that scenario popped into my head, and I had to go with it)
Would Man 3 gain anything in having his arm amputated?
Would any of Man 1 or Man 2 benefit it?
Was Man 3 amputated as a form of punishment?
Does Man 1 usually examine body parts of people?
Has Man 2 ever done similar things before? (ie received, examine and buried body parts)
Is Man 3 kept captive?
Were Man 1 and Man 2 also one-armed? Yes
Were all three men together when both Man 1 and Man 2 lost their arm? Yes
Were they, in fact, in a shipwreck (or similar) and cut one arm off each man for food, but were rescued before needing to do so by the third man? Did he send/sacrifice his arm because their arm sacrifices kept all three of them alive? Was the examination simply to verify that the arm came from Man 3? Yes, Yes, Yes
(yeah, I know--I went weird again. But that scenario popped into my head, and I had to go with it) Well, this time you got it. I think I even referred to the puzzle as weird.
Wow, good job Synn! :)
Synnen got it, but I'll answer these anyway. I'm glad in that your questions were kind of hard to answer, but now that you know the puzzle they make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown008
It disturbs me a lot when some of the weird things that come to me turn out to be the answer... I mean, really... what does that say about me?
We won't tell anyone. :p Oh wait... I know... it's just because we've done a few of these puzzles and we know they are strange. Nothing to do with your mind at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synnen
The official solution:
The three men had been stranded on a desert island. Desperate for food, they had agreed to amputate their left arms in order to eat them. They swore an oath that each would have his left arm cut off. One of them was a doctor and he cut the arms off his two companions. They were then rescued. But his oath was still binding so he later had to have his arm amputated and sent to his colleagues.
This is often told with a further twist whereby a doctor pays a tramp a large sum in order to amputate the tramp's arm which the doctor then sends to another man who inspects it etc. This variation can make for a long night of questioning!
Can you imagine how much tougher that variation would be?
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