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  • Sep 17, 2010, 04:55 AM
    adam_89

    Yea, I know this one.
  • Sep 17, 2010, 03:34 PM
    morgaine300
    Someone who hasn't heard of it. Finally. (Wonder what happened to Unky?)

    Is the name of the drink important? No

    Is what kind of gun it is important? No.
  • Sep 17, 2010, 07:40 PM
    QLP

    Do the man and bartender know each other?

    Did the man ask for anything else?

    Did the bartender say anything?

    Was there anything special about the actual bar?

    Was anyone else involved?
  • Sep 17, 2010, 08:23 PM
    morgaine300
    Do the man and bartender know each other? Irrelevant

    Did the man ask for anything else? Irrelevant

    Did the bartender say anything? Irrelevant

    Was there anything special about the actual bar? No.

    Was anyone else involved? No.

    Well, that gotcha real far, huh? :p
  • Sep 18, 2010, 12:34 AM
    Unknown008

    Sorry morgaine, I was really busy yesterday, and this morning is not better. I'll try out later on, promise :)
  • Sep 18, 2010, 01:38 AM
    morgaine300

    No problem. I won't be back around for about 8 hours anyway.
  • Sep 19, 2010, 06:13 PM
    morgaine300

    Hmm, everyone has disappeared. Although the past two days have been very hectic for me for work, so I haven't had a lot of time for answering questions anyway, so maybe that worked out OK.

    But I have time tonight and am off tomorrow, and maybe J-Lo will be back with us by then, so we can finish this up (I THINK it's an easier one) and then let her start on her hard one.

    (This is just an excuse to "bump" the post and stick it back in everyone's updated list, assuming it's working.)
  • Sep 19, 2010, 08:18 PM
    Just Looking

    I'm back. :) I actually came on to post a couple of pictures from the wedding in the lounge (big top), but I stopped in here first. So, let me see if I can help move this puzzle along. Maybe Unky or someone else will come help me.

    Was the man's "thank you" sincere?

    Did the bartender intend on shooting the man?

    Was there something about the man that caused the bartender to pull out a gun?

    Was the bartender afraid of the man?

    Did the man seem menacing?
  • Sep 19, 2010, 09:48 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    I'm back. :) I actually came on to post a couple of pictures from the wedding in the lounge (big top), but I stopped in here first.
    Well, aren't we special? But hey, good to see you. I'd ask if you had fun, but I suspect you're off now posting about it in the lounge.

    Hmm, I'll have to go remind myself what the puzzle was now. LOL.

    Was the man's "thank you" sincere? Yes.

    Did the bartender intend on shooting the man? No.

    Was there something about the man that caused the bartender to pull out a gun? Yes.

    Was the bartender afraid of the man? No.

    Did the man seem menacing? No.
  • Sep 19, 2010, 09:58 PM
    Just Looking


    I think I had too much fun. :D

    So, he was thankful about something the bartender did. Was it related to the gun?

    Did the bartender protect him from someone else?

    Was the man an alcoholic?

    Did the bartender know the man had a drinking problem and refused to serve him?

    Was the man in AA?
  • Sep 19, 2010, 11:34 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    I think I had too much fun. :D
    Did we have too much to drink?

    So, he was thankful about something the bartender did. Was it related to the gun? Yes.

    Did the bartender protect him from someone else? No.

    Was the man an alcoholic? Irrelevant.

    Did the bartender know the man had a drinking problem and refused to serve him? Irrelevant.

    Was the man in AA? Irrelevant.

    (Was it easier when I quoted each question? Doesn't matter to me either way.)
  • Sep 20, 2010, 01:15 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Did we have too much to drink?


    (Was it easier when I quoted each question? Doesn't matter to me either way.)

    No, I'm not a big drinker.

    This is fine. No need to quote each question. :)


    Was the gun real? I'm wondering if it was something like a cigarette lighter, and he thanked him for the light.

    Did the man get a drink?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 02:27 AM
    morgaine300

    Was the gun real? Yes.

    Did the man get a drink? It's irrelevant, but there's a logic that says he did.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 03:10 AM
    adam_89

    Good Morning, I thought this one would surely be solved already.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 03:56 AM
    morgaine300

    Nah, no one was really around over the weekend, so it hasn't gone much of anywhere.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 04:05 AM
    adam_89

    Yea, not a happening place on the weekends. Did you have a good one?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:29 AM
    Unknown008
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Okey dokey. I had to miss that one - long work day. But since J-Lo's gonna be off somewhere for a couple of days, and I have tomorrow off, I'll do another. We wouldn't want QLP to go into withdrawal or anything. :eek:

    This is one the main "classics" (Adam probably already found it and peaked), but a shorter one, I think.

    A man walks into a bar and asks for a drink. The bartender pulls out a gun and points it at him. The man says, "Thank you," and walks out.

    Sorry, I had a very busy weekend :o

    When you say, "points at him", him here refers to the man and not the bartender, right?

    Did anyone die?

    Did the bartender hand the gun to the man?

    Was the gun loaded?

    Did the gun work?

    Did the man drank his drink?
    - Was the bartender pointing the gun all this time towards him?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 02:02 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Yea, not a happening place on the weekends. Did you have a good one?

    I work on the weekends and it was extremely hectic. In fact, Saturday was pretty much shot altogether, and I never got to relax until last night. So we'll call that a no. (We need more help at work. It's just getting too crazy.)
  • Sep 20, 2010, 02:09 PM
    morgaine300

    When you say, "points at him", him here refers to the man and not the bartender, right? Yes, bartender points at man.

    Did anyone die? No.

    Did the bartender hand the gun to the man? No.

    Was the gun loaded? Irrelevant.

    Did the gun work? It worked for its intended purpose.

    Did the man drank his drink? Irrelevant, but again there's a logic that says he did.

    - Was the bartender pointing the gun all this time towards him? No.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 02:20 PM
    Just Looking


    Was there anything else the bartender did to receive the thank you?

    I'm going to assume no, just to get in more questions. :D

    Did the man thank the bartender for not shooting him?

    Did the bartender pull the gun out as part of a joke? To scare the man? As a mistake? As a threat?

    Were the police involved?

    Was the man interested in buying the gun or another gun?

    Was the man dazed and confused? Did the bartender snap the man back to reality by pulling out the gun?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:31 PM
    morgaine300
    Was there anything else the bartender did to receive the thank you? No.

    I'm going to assume no, just to get in more questions. :D You assume right.

    Did the man thank the bartender for not shooting him? No.

    Did the bartender pull the gun out as part of a joke? As a mistake? As a threat? No.

    To scare the man? Yes.

    Were the police involved? No.

    Was the man interested in buying the gun or another gun? No. (But what an interesting idea.)

    Was the man dazed and confused? Did the bartender snap the man back to reality by pulling out the gun? No.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:34 PM
    Just Looking

    Whoopee - I got a Yes. :o Though I think it must be an important yes.

    So why does a man ask for a drink and say thank you for being scared? The first thing that comes to mind is he had the hiccups - though a simple boo might have worked. Okay, I'll go with my gut - did he have the hiccups?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:42 PM
    Just Looking

    morgaine300 agrees : You got it. :-)


    They always seem so obvious once you get them. :p

    Ready for mine now?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:43 PM
    morgaine300

    I didn't say it was a brilliant one. :)
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:45 PM
    morgaine300
    Actually, it didn't seem obvious even after I read it. Being interested in buying the gun seems more obvious and I never thought of that. But hey...

    And sure, I'm ready.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:46 PM
    morgaine300
    Besides, if the guy had been there a few hours and was drunk out of his gourd, then maybe we needed a more drastic solution than a simple boo.

    That's my guess and I'm sticking with it.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:52 PM
    Just Looking

    Okay, here goes. To me this one seems hard - hope it challenges everyone.

    The Arm of the Postal Service

    One day a man received a parcel in the post. Carefully packed inside was a human arm. He examined it, repacked it and then sent it on to another man. The second man also carefully examined the arm before taking it to the woods and burying it. Why did they do this?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:57 PM
    morgaine300
    EDIT: Post #297, page 30 contains a summary thus far of the above puzzle, so that anyone new doesn't have to look through all of these posts. (There are, however, other posts and comments strewn through it.)


    It was a "chain letter." :D

    Er, sorry. I'm about to do dishes - I'll think (more seriously) while I'm doing them and be back in a bit.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 05:59 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    It was a "chain letter." :D

    Er, sorry. I'm about to do dishes - I'll think (more seriously) while I'm doing them and be back in a bit.

    Haha. Okay, I'll go make dinner and check back later.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:19 PM
    Synnen

    Was the arm flesh? (not a prosthetic)

    Did the arm belong to either man?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:20 PM
    morgaine300

    I had to interrupt my dishes before I forgot everything running through my head:

    Did he expect to receive a package?

    Did he expect to specifically receive a human body part?

    If so, did he expect to specifically receive an arm?

    Was the arm on ice?

    Did he know who sent it? (Even if not personally)

    Did he personally know the person who sent it?

    Was there anything else in the package besides the arm, besides just typical packing materials?

    Did he know the (2nd) man he sent it to?

    Was he instructed at some point to send it to this other man?

    (I just realized we've got this man 1/man 2 confusion again.)
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:24 PM
    Just Looking
    Was the arm flesh? Yes

    Did the arm belong to either man? No
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:25 PM
    Just Looking
    Did he expect to receive a package? Yes

    Did he expect to specifically receive a human body part? Yes

    If so, did he expect to specifically receive an arm? Yes

    Was the arm on ice? Irrelevant

    Did he know who sent it? Yes

    Did he personally know the person who sent it? Yes

    Was there anything else in the package besides the arm, besides just typical packing materials? No

    Did he know the (2nd) man he sent it to? Yes

    Was he instructed at some point to send it to this other man? Yes

    (I just realized we've got this man 1/man 2 confusion again.) How about giving them names - Tom, **** and Harry :p


    Okay back to making dinner. I'll check in again when I get a moment.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:36 PM
    morgaine300

    I'll just get confused over who is who. I'm terrible with names.

    OK, I'm having issues with being packed on ice being irrelevant. So I'm going to rephrase.

    Did the arm have any reason to need to be packed on ice?

    Was the arm off a real human (dead or alive)?

    Did the first man do anything to the arm, besides examining it?

    Did he change anything about the packaging when he resent it, other than new packing materials? (i.e. add or remove something, change something, etc.)

    Did any postal employees know what was inside the package?

    Did the arm belong to anyone that either of these 2 men knew?

    Is the person the arm came from still alive?

    Is there anything left in the way of flesh, muscle, etc.

    Or, is there nothing left but bone?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:46 PM
    Just Looking
    OK, I'm having issues with being packed on ice being irrelevant. So I'm going to rephrase.

    Did the arm have any reason to need to be packed on ice? I don't think it did so I'll answer no.

    Was the arm off a real human (dead or alive)? Yes

    Did the first man do anything to the arm, besides examining it? No

    Did he change anything about the packaging when he resent it, other than new packing materials? (i.e. add or remove something, change something, etc.) No

    Did any postal employees know what was inside the package? No

    Did the arm belong to anyone that either of these 2 men knew? Yes

    Is the person the arm came from still alive? Yes

    Is there anything left in the way of flesh, muscle, etc. Yes

    Or, is there nothing left but bone? N/A
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:48 PM
    QLP

    Hi again, I got busy sorry. I got rather confused to find questions about arms till I spotted you finished one and started another lol.

    Did man 1 expect to receive an arm he would recognize?
    Did he recognize it?

    Did man 2 expect to receive the arm from man 1?

    Is man 1 expecting any more body parts?
    Is man 2?

    Did man 2 send anything to man 1?
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:52 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Looking View Post
    OK, I'm having issues with being packed on ice being irrelevant. So I'm going to rephrase.

    Okay I asked my fiancé about this since he's such a mastermind. :) It probably was packed in ice so it wouldn't become a stinky mess - his words, not mine. :o
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:52 PM
    Just Looking
    Did man 1 expect to receive an arm he would recognize? Yes
    Did he recognize it? Yes

    Did man 2 expect to receive the arm from man 1? Yes

    Is man 1 expecting any more body parts? No
    Is man 2? No

    Did man 2 send anything to man 1? No
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:54 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by QLP View Post
    Hi again, I got busy sorry. I got rather confused to find questions about arms till I spotted you finished one and started another lol.

    That's why I post the puzzle again at the tops of new pages. It always feels a little redundant, but you never know when someone will pop in suddenly.
  • Sep 20, 2010, 06:59 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Looking View Post
    Okay I asked my fiance about this since he's such a mastermind. :) It probably was packed in ice so it wouldn't become a stinky mess - his words, not mine. :o

    I was thinking more along the lines of preserving it a bit, but that's kind of what I thought. i.e. I was a bit trying to establish if it needed preserved in some way, or was just a skeletin. But yeah, it would get a bit on the stinky side. ;)

    And by the way, the person it came from being alive just threw out several of my obviously not-so brilliant ideas.

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