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  • Jul 31, 2010, 08:27 AM
    Unknown008

    Well, I can't find a word which matches all of the 4 conditions :( or my english vocabulary is too low...

    I just learned two weeks ago that English is the language among all the existing languages that contains the greatest number of words (nearly a million I think now, or something like that)
  • Jul 31, 2010, 09:38 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    We need more math ones.

    I thought this was kind of interesting:

    What row of numbers comes next in this series?


    1
    11
    21
    1211
    111221
    312211
    13112221
  • Jul 31, 2010, 09:45 AM
    Unknown008

    I know this one! I've done this one. Should I tell?
  • Jul 31, 2010, 09:53 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    I know this one! I've done this one. Should I tell?

    No - let's see if someone else can get it.

    I know the answer to Hexxie's riddle but I don't want to spoil it for someone else.
  • Jul 31, 2010, 01:51 PM
    Hexxie

    Does it involve the Fibonacci series?
  • Jul 31, 2010, 02:10 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hexxie View Post
    does it involve the Fibonacci series?

    I had to look that up to see what it was. No, I don't believe it does.
  • Aug 1, 2010, 12:19 AM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Looking View Post
    I thought this was kind of interesting:

    What row of numbers comes next in this series?


    1
    11
    21
    1211
    111221
    312211
    13112221

    I guess I asked for it wanting more math ones. But I'm terrible at sequences. :rolleyes:
  • Aug 1, 2010, 12:21 AM
    morgaine300

    Space occurred to me, except that doesn't fit the present & past tense thing, even if it's also a verb.
  • Aug 1, 2010, 02:58 AM
    Unknown008

    A hint for the sequence. Read it aloud ;)

    And there is no Fibonacci in this.

    Smoke? Hint!
  • Aug 1, 2010, 11:39 AM
    Hexxie

    Nothing I was trying, mathematically, was working. Then last night my daughter was counting out her dolls in a way that had not occurred to me.

    Is the next number:

    1113213211?
  • Aug 1, 2010, 11:43 AM
    Hexxie

    Ok, here's a hint on mine:

    It's something you ride. Wait, one of the clues already told you that didn't it. Ok, actually, it's more like you sit on it (it doesn't go anywhere).

    Good luck.
  • Aug 1, 2010, 12:27 PM
    Hexxie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Space occured to me, except that doesn't fit the present & past tense thing, even if it's also a verb.

    Glad to see you are giving it a go.. . even if it isn't about numbers.

    No, it is not space.
  • Aug 1, 2010, 02:19 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hexxie View Post
    Nothing I was trying, mathematically, was working. Then last night my daughter was counting out her dolls in a way that had not occured to me.

    Is the next number:

    1113213211?

    Yes, you got it! Makes me wonder what your daughter was doing. :)
  • Aug 2, 2010, 12:05 AM
    Unknown008

    I'm not sure of how to call it in English... (French: Caroussel)

    http://www.stephanepoinsot.com/previ..._caroussel.jpg

    Is that it? Except that I don't think it matches with the past/present part of the riddle...
  • Aug 2, 2010, 03:21 AM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hexxie View Post
    Glad to see you are giving it a go . . .even if it isn't about numbers.

    Of course I'm giving it a go. ;) I do like math stuff, but I like puzzles of all sorts. I'm actually usually pretty good at this time (the "what am I?" sort of thing), but this one has me stumped.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 03:23 AM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    A hint for the sequence. Read it aloud ;)

    I read it out loud. Both just reading the numbers in the sequence (one, two, one, one) and read the number properly (one thousand two hundred eleven), and that means nothing to me. I don't get the answer. I'm telling you, I'm terrible at sequences, unless they're pretty easy.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 03:27 AM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    I'm not sure of how to call it in English... (French: Caroussel)

    http://www.stephanepoinsot.com/previ..._caroussel.jpg

    Is that it? Except that I don't think it matches with the past/present part of the riddle...

    Hmm, curious. I'd been thinking about a teeter-totter. Except that still doesn't cover the tense thing. And a teeter-totter needs more than just "me" and you - it needs another person.

    But it's another line of thinking anyway cause I've been concentrating on stuff like air - got to learn to think of other types of stuff. I think I've also been taking "sky" a little to literally, like all the way to the sky, instead of towards it.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 03:28 AM
    morgaine300

    A swing? But that isn't past tense as well.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 03:34 AM
    morgaine300
    Hey, I just thought of something. Anyone here into those lateral thinking puzzles? For instance, you get a scenario that's pretty vague. You get just a little information that tells you about nothing at all. And then everyone asks yes or no questions. The answers are yes, no, and irrelevant. They're very difficult cause you get so little info that it's like finding a needle in a haystack, until maybe you start getting a little more information from the questions. Really, they need several people working on them to get different angles and different sorts of questions. I find they're about impossible with only one person.

    Just for example, there's one about a guy at a circus, who was found dead, and something about a pole and something under his cot in his tent, and you have to guess what killed the guy. Don't remember the details (I could find out), but just an example of how little info you get.

    If anyone's game, I've already got a couple. (Though I'd prefer starting a new thread just for that.)
  • Aug 2, 2010, 06:42 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    I read it out loud. Both just reading the numbers in the sequence (one, two, one, one) and read the number properly (one thousand two hundred eleven), and that means nothing to me. I don't get the answer. I'm telling you, I'm terrible at sequences, unless they're pretty easy.

    The one two one one is the right track.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:07 PM
    Hexxie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Looking View Post
    Yes, you got it! Makes me wonder what your daughter was doing. :)

    She was counting them according to what they were wearing, as follows: one red, two blue, three pink, one green, etc.

    Leave it to a seven year old to help me fiqure out the riddle. :)
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:09 PM
    Hexxie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    I'm not sure of how to call it in English... (French: Caroussel)

    http://www.stephanepoinsot.com/previ..._caroussel.jpg

    Is that it? Except that I don't think it matches with the past/present part of the riddle...

    Good guess, but no. A caroussel, or Merry-Go-Round, doesn't fit the past/present part.

    Guess again?
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:13 PM
    Hexxie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Hmm, curious. I'd been thinking about a teeter-totter. Except that still doesn't cover the tense thing. And a teeter-totter needs more than just "me" and you - it needs another person.

    But it's another line of thinking anyway cause I've been concentrating on stuff like air - gotta learn to think of other types of stuff. I think I've also been taking "sky" a little to literally, like all the way to the sky, instead of towards it.

    You are so close that you are burning (as in the Hot or Cold child's play).

    What is another word for teeter-totter?:)
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:20 PM
    Hexxie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    A swing? But that isn't past tense as well.

    No, it is not swing.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:22 PM
    Hexxie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Hey, I just thought of something. Anyone here into those lateral thinking puzzles? For instance, you get a scenario that's pretty vague. You get just a little information that tells you about nothing at all. And then everyone asks yes or no questions. The answers are yes, no, and irrelevant. They're very difficult cause you get so little info that it's like finding a needle in a haystack, until maybe you start getting a little more information from the questions. Really, they need several people working on them to get different angles and different sorts of questions. I find they're about impossible with only one person.

    Just for example, there's one about a guy at a circus, who was found dead, and something about a pole and something under his cot in his tent, and you have to guess what killed the guy. Don't remember the details (I could find out), but just an example of how little info you get.

    If anyone's game, I've already got a couple. (Though I'd prefer starting a new thread just for that.)

    I'm in. Yes, please do start another thread.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:26 PM
    redhed35

    Me too I like lateral thinking puzzles.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:28 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hexxie View Post
    You are so close that you are burning (as in the Hot or Cold child's play).

    What is another word for teeter-totter?:)

    Seesaw
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:41 PM
    Hexxie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    seesaw

    Winner! Winner, winner, winner! (said like they do at the carnivals when someone wins). :D
  • Aug 2, 2010, 02:47 PM
    Aurora_Bell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Hey, I just thought of something. Anyone here into those lateral thinking puzzles? For instance, you get a scenario that's pretty vague. You get just a little information that tells you about nothing at all. And then everyone asks yes or no questions. The answers are yes, no, and irrelevant. They're very difficult cause you get so little info that it's like finding a needle in a haystack, until maybe you start getting a little more information from the questions. Really, they need several people working on them to get different angles and different sorts of questions. I find they're about impossible with only one person.

    Just for example, there's one about a guy at a circus, who was found dead, and something about a pole and something under his cot in his tent, and you have to guess what killed the guy. Don't remember the details (I could find out), but just an example of how little info you get.

    If anyone's game, I've already got a couple. (Though I'd prefer starting a new thread just for that.)

    I'm game :)
  • Aug 2, 2010, 04:40 PM
    Hexxie

    Aw, shucks. Thanks JLo.
  • Aug 2, 2010, 10:06 PM
    Unknown008

    Shoo!! Lol, I realised the 'see-saw ' just after morgaine mentioned teeter-totter. Don't know what it means, but it made me think of see-saw. Gah! Have I thought about this earlier...

    Well played Calif :)

    Morgaine, still nothing of the sequence?
  • Aug 3, 2010, 02:19 AM
    morgaine300

    No, I'm still lost on the sequence. You know I'm not exactly stupid at math, but just don't get that one. (Maybe the problem is that I'm being too math logical?)

    And really, I think it's only fair that I get part credit for the see-saw. I thought it up! :p

    OK, I will do the lateral thinking puzzle, the one I can remember off the top of my head. (If everyone likes it, I'll call my brother about the other one I can't remember.) I hope I'm calling that by the right name or it won't be what you think it is. And I will try very, very hard to check in a few times a day, something I normally don't do.
  • Aug 3, 2010, 02:21 AM
    morgaine300

    Actually, I just googled it. This is indeed a lateral thinking puzzle, exactly like I described. And the one I'm going to do first is actually there. (So no cheating and googling it! ) The solution is a bit different, but the solution is not an exact science anyway. It was interesting seeing a different flair on the solution though.
  • Aug 3, 2010, 02:26 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    No, I'm still lost on the sequence. You know I'm not exactly stupid at math, but just don't get that one. (Maybe the problem is that I'm being too math logical?)

    And really, I think it's only fair that I get part credit for the see-saw. I thought it up! :p

    OK, I will do the lateral thinking puzzle, the one I can remember off the top of my head. (If everyone likes it, I'll call my brother about the other one I can't remember.) I hope I'm calling that by the right name or it won't be what you think it is. And I will try very, very hard to check in a few times a day, something I normally don't do.

    Hi Morgaine, I'm not sure where you live but it's 2:22 am here - why am I up? :( Anyway, the sequence might not be "math" so much and that's probably why you are stuck. It's more of a pattern. Did you see how Hexxie figured it out? That's a big hint. If you are tired of it, I can tell you how it goes.
  • Aug 3, 2010, 02:42 AM
    morgaine300

    Lateral thinking puzzle over here:
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/games/...ml#post2464152
  • Aug 3, 2010, 02:43 AM
    morgaine300
    It's later here than there and I'm still up. LOL.

    Let me think on it. I'm stubborn that way.
  • Aug 3, 2010, 02:46 AM
    morgaine300

    Hey, Unky... I'm only posting this here cause I know you've been reading this thread. (I realize this entirely doesn't belong here.)

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/math-s...m-57387-2.html

    Sometimes isn't power just cool? ;)
  • Aug 3, 2010, 05:51 AM
    Unknown008

    Do I give you the answer to the sequence?

    Yes, I know, but reviving over and over just bugs me, locked it goes ;)
  • Aug 3, 2010, 06:32 AM
    morgaine300

    Yes, the answer was posted. But my brain is not exactly with me for the moment. It's morning now and I've never been to bed, and I'm tired enough not to be able to think, I'm not really tired enough to get to sleep. I hate when that happens. I don't have to work until afternoon, but I'll get really tired about two hours before I have to go to work. :rolleyes:
  • Aug 3, 2010, 06:34 AM
    Unknown008

    I mean, the 'how to get' the answer. I know Hexxie posted the answer already, and the hint I gave you is still valid.

    But if you want to wait, it's okay :)

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