Ask Me Help Desk - How about some MORE lateral thinking puzzles!

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

He doesn't think so. I'm not always too fabulous either. (I was at a complete loss on the albatross one. Just gave up on even trying to ask anything. LOL.)

Now my brother - he's pretty good. He'd probably have a great time hanging around on this, but I'd kinda prefer he hang around somewhere else. :D

Of course :p

I struggle at whether to make some friends sigh up in the forum... I tried with one or two, but they didn't ever come back... I guess that it's just pointless...

Everyone doesn't want to do the same things. You can't make them want to. It's easy to decide that what you like is exciting to everyone else too, especially friends, whom you presumably have stuff in common with. But alas, it annoyingly doesn't work that way. :rolleyes:

OK, I'm being even more of a vampire than usual. Have to start my fall work schedule tomorrow and I'm working on not getting much sleep here. :) (The wine was actually to mellow me out and hopefully make me a little tired so I could get to sleep. Alas, it didn't quite work out that way.) I need to force myself to climb into bed...

Seems like you didn't see my questions :p

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Is the object cigarettes?

Pipes?

I am back, but having a bad day. So my mind is clogged and won't help me think clearly. Otherwise, I think what was established earlier would have lit a fire under my arse by now and I would be closer.

Ok, so the man had a medical problem but does not anymore.

Since what he did in Switzerland was relavent, did he go there for his medical problem?

Did he have cancer?

Was he missing any body parts?

Well I will stop asking questions now until I can get these answered or else it will be pointless to go on.

Was there a doctor in the smoking car that saved him from a heart attack or choking?

Now I wonder about Unky's question, were cigarettes relavent? I'm sorry if I am going back to the smoking thing, but I am not trying to. Just wondering if cigarettes were it like Unky said.

Or maybe lighters? That's the only thing I knew that had metal.

You're right. I didn't see these. We were both posting at the same time and this one slipped through the cracks.

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Is the object cigarettes?

Pipes?

Any and all of the above.

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Ok, so the man had a medical problem but does not anymore.

Correct.

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Since what he did in Switzerland was relavent, did he go there for his medical problem?

Yes.

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Did he have cancer?

No.

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Was he missing any body parts?

No.

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Originally Posted by Synnen

Was there a doctor in the smoking car that saved him from a heart attack or choking?

It's already been established that he would have killed himself, so no. (Or at least, causing heart attacks or choking are not typical forms of suicide.)

A man is returning from Switzerland by train. If he had been in a non-smoking car he would have died.

Summary #2. (#1 post #91 on pg 10)

Did he know someone in the smokers car? No.

Did he do something in Switzerland? Yes.

Was it against the Law? No

Does the man travel with a weapon? Possibly.

Was there something in the non smoking car which the man could have used to kill himself if he was there?
Yes, but the man would be in there as well. (Tough to answer without being misleading. All the same stuff would be available either way.)

Was there someone waiting for him in the non smoking car? No.

Does the train receive messages from the country such as through telephone/television/telegraph/etc Irrelevant.

Was the man following some treatment? I mean... was he on drugs? I think you mean the illegal kind? Like he was in for rehab or something? No.

Nobody on the entire train died. Nothing was out of the ordinary. Correct.

Something would have caused this specific man to die if he would have been in the nonsmoking car.
Yes but...

Was there something that could have caused him much harm in the nonsmoking room? NO!

Did the man have medical problems? Had.

Did something he did in Switzerland relavent to this? Yes.

Was there someone he didn't like in the nonsmoking room? Irrelevant.

Was there something/someone in the train who stopped him from killing himself? Yes

Did someone prevent him from suicide? No.

Did this man knew that person? N/A due to above answer.

Is the 'identity' of the 'something' relevant? (I mean like if it were a chair, would it be relevant that it was a chair?) Yes.

Is the object cigarettes? Pipes? Any and all of the above.

Ok, so the man had a medical problem but does not anymore. Correct.

Since what he did in Switzerland was relavent, did he go there for his medical problem? Yes.

Did he have cancer? No.

Was he missing any body parts? No.

Was there a doctor in the smoking car that saved him from a heart attack or choking? It's already been established that he would have killed himself, so no. (And I also just noticed in this summary that it's already been established that no one else prevented his suicide.)

Was his medical problem a physical problem? (as opposed to mental)

I don't yet understand how a cigarette can save his life...

Does he live in Switzerland? (I've a feeling that's irrelevant though... )

Did he get the appropriate treatment in Switzerland?

Well, at least people are finally asking about the smoking car! :) In all this time, everyone concentrated on that non-smoking car that no one ever asked about where he is, as opposed to where he's not.

I think we are close.

He accidentally lit himself on fire with a lighter/match/cigarette/cigar, and the non-smoking car wouldn't have had the fire extinguisher to put him out that the smoking car had.

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Was his medical problem a physical problem? (as opposed to mental)

Yes.

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I don't yet understand how a cigarette can save his life...

That's for me to know and you to find out. :D

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Does he live in Switzerland? (I've a feeling that's irrelevant though... )

No. (He's returning from... but not terribly important at this point.)

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Did he get the appropriate treatment in Switzerland?

Yes.

Was it the touch of a cigarette?

The smell of a cigarette?

The sight of a cigarette?

The taste of a cigarette?

The hearing of a cigarette? (I know this doesn't make sense but hey.)

Was his disease related to drugs? (Nicotine for example)

Wait, are there really 4 of us on here at the same time?? OMG! (Though I, needless to say, am not terribly awake. I'm thinking a nap would be good, as long as work is being so quiet.)

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Originally Posted by Synnen

He accidently lit himself on fire with a lighter/match/cigarette/cigar, and the non-smoking car wouldn't have had the fire extinguisher to put him out that the smoking car had.

LOL. Not quite.

You are leaving us at such a good time when all of us are here? Oh well, I probably would never get it anyway. I am about an inch away from losing my mind.

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Was it the touch of a cigarette?

The smell of a cigarette?

No.

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The sight of a cigarette?

Yes.

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The taste of a cigarette?

The hearing of a cigarette?

No.

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(I know this doesn't make sense but hey.)

Makes perfect sense. My brother asked most of these, one right after the other - he asked about the smell first,

Ok, he seen a cigarette and it saved his life because of his medical condition that he had fixed in Switzerland?

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Was his disease related to drugs? (Nicotine for example)

No.

EDIT: Sorry, posted at the same time :o

Ok... it was the sight of a cigarette... which didn't reminded him of anything relevant...

Was it a disease caused by a virus?

I may be getting to nowhere =S

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Originally Posted by adam_89

Ok, he seen a cigarette and it saved his life because of his medical condition that he had fixed in Switzerland?

Uh yeah sort of. They're related.

I do think I caught up finally. Wake me up if I missed something. :)

Was the cigarette the cause of this medical condition?

Going out on a long limb here, was the man once blind?

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Originally Posted by adam_89

Going out on a long limb here, was the man once blind?

I think you got something. Since morgaine has been saying this one was convoluted, I won't be surprised if he was blind.

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Was the cigarette the cause of this medical condition?

No.

I guess time will tell. I think I know where to go with this one if so. If I am right I will back out and let you finish it and see if I was right.

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Originally Posted by adam_89

Going out on a long limb here, was the man once blind?

Yes. :p

(Unky, I finally saw your edit, but given this question, I'm just going to skip it.)

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

I think you got something. Since morgaine has been saying this one was convoluted, I won't be surprised if he was blind.

Well, I wasn't exaggerating. ;)

Yes I think I know it. Unky, it is up to you. I think I might put my answer down below here in white so Unky can keep going if he wants.

Here it is:

The man was blind but is not any longer thanks to the procedure in Switzerland. He is in a smoking room on the way back and the lights go out or they go through a tunnel, depending on day or night. He thinks he is blind again so he would want to kill himself, but thanks to the cigarette he saw in the dark, he was fine.

Yes, you can disregard it, as I focused my next question.

But I'm still at a loss lol.

I can't figure out how the mere sight of a cigarette would have saved him...

Was he depressed at life that he discovered the cigarette to 'escape' reality?

Now, this is a really dumb question -_-

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Was he depressed at life that he discovered the cigarette to 'escape' reality?

No, LOL.

Up to you if you want to keep going. I imagine it's getting late for you. But I'll be around later, depending on how soon you get back on after getting up.

Yay! My brain needs a vacation now.

I don't know what to think, and yes, it's getting late here...

But to commit suicide if he didn't see a cigarette?

It was said that whether he smokes or not is irrelevant... he got on the smoking compartment of the train... being blind, he may not have noticed that there are different cars, one smoking and the other one non smoking...

Does the man like cigarette smoke?

Aww... this is becoming ridiculous...