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  • Sep 29, 2010, 08:37 AM
    adam_89

    If you want to solve it Jlo, I will give the answers. I am not as good at them as you are.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 08:39 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    If you want to solve it Jlo, I will give the answers. I am not as good at them as you are.

    Even better. I love playing them, but I question myself so much when I 'm answering your questions.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 08:40 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Oh... gee thanks JLo :o

    No thanks. I don't know how much time I'll be able to keep up here. 2 weeks before the big exams and I feel like I have a lot to do :( I'll have to practice my physics and try to get used to my forgotten formulae.

    We have faith in you Unky. Maybe you can use these as a little escape when you need to relax.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 08:41 AM
    adam_89
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Looking View Post
    Even better. I love playing them, but I question myself so much when I answering your questions.

    Ok, so that solves that. Whenever she wants to send the answer to me and post the puzzle, we can begin.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 08:58 AM
    Synnen

    Okay, let me just start by saying I haven't followed all of the ones posted, so if I post one that you've already done, just let me know.

    A man pushes a car to a hotel and knows immediately that he's bankrupt
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:02 AM
    Unknown008

    Ok, I'm game.

    Was he hurrying to the hotel?

    Was he really bankrupt now?

    Does he know who made him bankrupt?

    Did he try to avoid his current situation of being bankrupt?
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:05 AM
    Just Looking

    I know this one already. Have fun, Unky.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:16 AM
    Unknown008

    :( Okay, this leaves Adam, morgaine and me (and morgaine probably knows this one)
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:30 AM
    Synnen

    Sorry, JLo :(
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:30 AM
    adam_89
    Ok, I'm game.

    Was he hurrying to the hotel? No

    Was he really bankrupt now? Yes, he is bankrupt now

    Does he know who made him bankrupt? Yes, I would say so

    Did he try to avoid his current situation of being bankrupt? No, He couldn't avoid it.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:31 AM
    Synnen
    Was he hurrying to the hotel? No.

    Was he really bankrupt now? In the context of the puzzle, yes. (way to ask a hard question)

    Does he know who made him bankrupt? Yes.

    Did he try to avoid his current situation of being bankrupt? Yes.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:34 AM
    adam_89

    Sorry, I guess I answered it wrongly Synn. I must have been thinking differently. I didn't know if you were doing it for the mean time or not.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 09:34 AM
    Unknown008

    Darn, leaves me and morgaine and since she probably knows it too, I'll be all alone waahh! :eek:

    Is a woman involved?
    Is a man involved?
    Is the reason behind why he is pushing his car relevant?
    Was this car his?
    Is the nature of his bankruptcy illegal?
  • Sep 29, 2010, 10:56 AM
    adam_89

    A man pushes a car to a hotel and knows immediately that he's bankrupt
  • Sep 29, 2010, 11:47 AM
    adam_89

    Is a woman involved? Irrelavent

    Is a man involved? Yes, the man pushing the car.

    Is the reason behind why he is pushing his car relevant? I am really not sure how to answer this. I am going to say no to help keep you from straying.
    Was this car his? Yes

    Is the nature of his bankruptcy illegal? No
  • Sep 29, 2010, 12:10 PM
    Synnen

    I'd say that the reason he was pushing the car IS significant, actually, but otherwise Adam is doing good :)

    Off to more work... gah.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 05:03 PM
    jmjoseph

    When I hear "bankrupt", I think of Monopoly. Was this "hotel" red? Was his car a little bitty thing?

    The "pushing" COULD be moving his piece.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 11:03 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Looking View Post
    Ned's sister is very rich but Ned is not. She once told him her will left half her fortune to her husband & half to Ned. When he learned that she was dying, he decided to double his inheritance by killing the husband before her death. He became a used car salesman to have access to cars that were not recognizably his & hence would not be recognized when he went to murder the husband. He would also be more likely to be identified on the street if he were on foot. This puzzle is adapted from a TV show.

    OK, so I kind of didn't make it today, and looks like you guys are already on another puzzle - don't know if I'll have time to read and catch up.

    But... I told my brother the parts we had solved of this already, and after mentioning cutting the brake line (and me telling him I didn't think hubby would be driving the car), he immediately said that Ned was just going to kill the guy and use the car to take the body away, which would not be his own car, and that he could use a car that had already been sold and that someone was picking up the next day. He also mentioned that a used car would be better than new due to the mileage issue.

    And I was amazed and said, "I bet that's it!" Well, he had the right idea anyway.

    BTW, no I'm not going to kill you, and quite personally, I think figuring out the use of the car is a relevant part of the puzzle.

    And one of my next questions was going to be if Ned was going to directly kill hubby... I did think of that but only after I posted last. Maybe that would have led me there. But I also expected it to already be solved since I never got on here today.

    But hey, I get part credit. :D (Everyone who asks questions should always get part credit cause they help solve.)
  • Sep 29, 2010, 11:07 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Synnen View Post
    I've been playing these since I was 13 and a teacher introduced us to them. It was our Friday game. She'd give us the puzzle on Wednesday, and we would write down questions to turn in Thursday. On Friday, she'd have the questions and answers on the board, and we'd solve the puzzle before doing any other classwork. Changed how I think about a lot of things, and really made it easier to "think outside the box". I've talked to others from that class throughout the years, and most of us have retained that ability to change perspective and see the puzzle from a different way.

    I've been doing puzzles since I was a little kid, but not these kind. (I did my first one of these about 10 years ago, starting with a really hard one.)

    But this is an interesting idea for school, cause I don't think anyone these days is taught how to think, in any kind of manner. I teach college students and feel like half of them are a bunch of little sheep running around.

    Someone posted on the math forums a while back a puzzle their kid's teacher had given, a math puzzle. I thought it was a great idea. I really wish teachers would do more of this kind of thing.
  • Sep 29, 2010, 11:10 PM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Looking View Post
    I would do that if no one else wants to. I like giving Morgaine a chance to play since she's done so many of these. I'm only here for one more week, and then gone for the rest of the month to get married and go on our honeymoon. My mind is not exactly on work. :o

    Oh bummer. Er... I mean, not about you getting married. Congrats!

    I mean that you'll be gone for a whole month. I'm going to go into withdrawal.

    (So what is your mind on. :p)

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