The only question is how the boss was involved, but keep it simple...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown008
Unky, you seem disappointed. I told you it wasn't that crazy. ;)
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The only question is how the boss was involved, but keep it simple...Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown008
Unky, you seem disappointed. I told you it wasn't that crazy. ;)
Hm... they had a deadline to meet and since the movie was to be started over again, the man won't be able to give the film strip to the boss.
That doesn't seem too convincing... :(
The director of the film (the man) would get fired? :o
Think along the lines of why Gordon would enter the room when filming was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown008
Did Gordon know his boss was away?
Did Gordon think his boss was under attack and rushed through the door?
Did the man think that the boss was entering the room to get the film instead of Gordon?
Somehow I knew when I said it that filming was correct. It just fit.
Ruined versus damaged.
I never did think it was literally money that got lost, like thrown out or blew off in the wind. I figured it was something of value. But I see now why you said not at "item." More like waste.
But I don't get how the boss fits in either. I was thinking about that while getting ready for bed and just couldn't figure, other than he'd be ticked off probably.
He entered the room to get the trash. Did the boss tell him to do it cause he wanted to ruin the film for some reason?
No to all. Keep it really simple. :) Gordon was only going in the room to dump the trash, his normal job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown008
Shall I just post the solution? It's a pretty obvious reason, but I think we are all tired.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Well, on the one hand I can't handle the idea of not solving it. Just like how filming just sort of popped in my head out of the blue (while half asleep), the boss thing is probably something that would just have to pop in your head.
I realize Gordon just went in for the trash. That part is simple. But nothing is coming to me about the boss.
And yes I'm very tired. I'm already going to be hitting afternoon if I want to get a good night's sleep for a change. While I hate giving up, I also don't feel like waiting until tomorrow just for this one thing.
Did the boss tell Gordon previously not to go into that particular room but Gordon forgot?
Did the boss give a deadline to Gordon to take out the trash from all the rooms of the building previously?
Did Gordon think that his boss was in the room?
Okay, I'm going to post the answer now and head off to bed. You must really be tired, and I have to be up in 3-4 hours. Don't look if you want to think about it some more. It's really a minor part of the puzzle, though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Gordon is a night janitor at an office building (or other workplace) where he daily takes out the trash, a task for which his wife is grateful (because it pays the bills!)
One day, a major filmmaker approaches the building owner and managers about using the building for a film shoot. They agree, and alert most of the staff and management of the situation. However, they neglected to tell Gordon.
At the beginning of Gordon's normal night shift, he goes from room to room collecting trash. Imagine his surprise when he stumbles on the film crew shooting in one of the rooms! Unfortunately, he ruins a particularly long take that required some setup.
The film that ran through the camera was ruined, and it cost the actors and crew some time in resetting the scene and reshooting. Even a few minutes of lost time on a big-budget film set can add up to thousands!
The boss neglected to tell Gordon, so he was unaware of the filming. Good night now.
Sleep tight JLo :)
I don't think I'd have solved it that soon :p
You're right. That's pretty minor. I thought I typed this, but maybe I only thought it. But I was thinking why wasn't there a sign on the door not to enter? It didn't really occur to me about someone telling him about it.Quote:
One day, a major filmmaker approaches the building owner and managers about using the building for a film shoot. They agree, and alert most of the staff and management of the situation. However, they neglected to tell Gordon.
Although it did occur to me that the building was just some building and that they were using it for the filming. (Hence, you saying the type of business wasn't important, cause it if had been a studio, that would have been relevant.)
Oh, and I'm perfectly aware of what it cost them to lose a bit of filming time. That's a lot of the cost of a movie, and years ago they simple couldn't afford to be doing 3 billion takes and editing so much like they do nowadays.
Anyway, I'm a goner. Just glad I'm off tomorrow.
So, how is everyone today after that long night? I zonked out pretty quickly and slept like a baby, and finally got myself a good night's sleep.
Just curious what everyone's schedules are. Are we going to be able to get any playing in?
I feel refreshed :)
I'm game for another one now :p
Can you wait? Or will you go into withdrawal? I think J-Lo is disappearing. I'm getting ready to go to bed (earlier than usual). But I can maybe start one tomorrow. Unless Synn or jm drop by, you'll probably be mostly on your own until Monday, if Adam comes back around.
How long are you good for until you have to go into study mode?
You know, what the heck. I'm starving and want to eat something before going to bed (and will probably read a little bit to chill out). So I can start one. If you get any questions in before I actually go to bed, I'll answer them to get you started.
I just don't know how much time I'll have tomorrow. Saturday's are iffy. So this might just be a little more of a delayed reaction.
Can't say this is the best puzzle in the world, but I was looking for something different. I also do wonder if I should give credit to the person who created it, but I'll worry about that later.
A man is lying dead in the sand, apparently trampled. What happened?
Is the sand the sand of a beach?
Are there more people involved besides the man?
Are there animals involved? One?
Are there vehicles involved? One?
Was his death an accidental death? Murder perhaps?
Is the sand the sand of a beach? That's one possibility.
Are there more people involved besides the man? Yes.
Are there animals involved? One? No.
Are there vehicles involved? One? No. (Interesting idea.)
Was his death an accidental death? No. Murder perhaps? Yes.
Are there more than one person?
- If there is one person, is that person the murderer?
- If there are more than one person, are there two? Three? Even more?
- Is the gender of the person(s) relevant?
I guess we take the beach one then?
Is it relevant how high on the beach the corpse is?
Was the corpse beaten to death?
Is the motive behind this relevant?
Was the corpse previously tortured?
Are there more than one person? No.
- If there is one person, is that person the murderer? Yes.
- If there are more than one person, are there two? Three? Even more? N/A
- Is the gender of the person(s) relevant? According to the answer, it's a man, but it's not terribly relevant.
I guess we take the beach one then? See note below.
Is it relevant how high on the beach the corpse is? No.
Was the corpse beaten to death? Sorta. (Don't really like the word "beaten.")
Is the motive behind this relevant? Yes.
Was the corpse previously tortured? No.
About the beach... It might be easier to solve in the long-run if you found a 'more distinct' location. But it might be easier to find that location if you found other things first, I'm not sure. I'll leave it up to you what line of questioning you prefer for now.
Oh darn, I'm already fixing answers. I was thinking elevation. I suspect you were thinking proximity to the water. IF it were on a beach, it would not likely be really close to the water, but otherwise still no.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Okay, I'll try not to focus on the beach too much for the time being.
Is money involved in the motive?
Is there theft involved?
Did the murdered want to take revenge?
Was the murderer jealous of the victim?
Yes, I was thinking about it's proximity to water. Ok, noted down :)Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Is money involved in the motive? No.
Is there theft involved? No.
Did the murdered want to take revenge? No.
Was the murderer jealous of the victim? Not really.
Did they fight each other?
Was the reason more 'emotional'?
Or was it about some materialistic item?
Was any of the two sane?
I'm in Los Angeles this weekend, but I still had to see what was going on in here. :confused: I'll be around on and off until Wednesday evening, then I'm off until November.
So, a new puzzle:
It says "apparently trampled". Did someone stage him to look trampled?
If so, was it staged to look like he was trampled by animals?
Or was it staged to look like he was trampled by people? (I'm thinking about cases where people have been trampled by crowds at concerts or store sales or huge events of some sort, etc. Could it be any of these?)
Was the man killed elsewhere and dumped at the beach?
You said to find a more distinct location. Is it important to find where on the beach he was found? For example, a lifeguard stand? Or is it important to find where the beach is? For example, some exotic location? Maybe Africa?
Is the murder victim famous? Rich?
You said the murderer was “not really” jealous. Did the man have something the murderer wanted?
He was sort of beaten to death. Was he crushed?
Sorry, work was really busy so I suspect Unky is now in bed. But then, Saturday's are always busy - just a matter if I get a few minutes to spare here and there.
Did they fight each other? Do you mean like boxing or fist fight or karate? If so, no.
Was the reason more 'emotional'? Yes.
Or was it about some materialistic item? No.
Was any of the two sane? Quite personally I don't consider most killers sane, but we'll say yes. ;)
[QUOTE]Hey, what the heck are you doing here? I'm confused too... girl, you're supposed to be having a nice wedding and honeymoon and forgetting about us. Not that I might your being here at all, and new hubby can play too, but I have a feeling he has other things in mind. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Looking
It says "apparently trampled". Did someone stage him to look trampled? Yes.
If so, was it staged to look like he was trampled by animals? Yes.
Or was it staged to look like he was trampled by people? (I’m thinking about cases where people have been trampled by crowds at concerts or store sales or huge events of some sort, etc. Could it be any of these?) No.
Was the man killed elsewhere and dumped at the beach? No, he was left where he was killed.
Is the murder victim famous? Rich? Both irrelevant.
You said the murderer was “not really” jealous. Did the man have something the murderer wanted? No. (Don't make too much of that. Jealousy is not really the best word and projects too much into it, and it's really much simpler than that.)
He was sort of beaten to death. Was he crushed? No.
Seems I opened a hornet's nest with that one. That isn't what I meant. The puzzle doesn't say exactly where it is and I don't know. A beach is a possibility. If you were to figure out another location I have in mind, it might more quickly lead to what they were doing. But if you figure out what they were doing, then a beach works fine and you'd understand what other type of location it also could be. So just depends which you think of first and you can pursue either line of questioning. Country doesn't matter.Quote:
You said to find a more distinct location. Is it important to find where on the beach he was found? For example, a lifeguard stand? Or is it important to find where the beach is? For example, some exotic location? Maybe Africa?
I hope that makes sense. (See, this happens to me too, so stop being so paranoid. :D)
Our wedding is next Saturday. I'm in Los Angeles for my final dress fitting. Yep, don't think he'd be too happy with me if I was playing here during our wedding/honeymoon. :p
Well, if he was staging it to look like he was trampled by animals, three obvious thoughts are: Is it related to a safari? Is it related to a circus? Is it related to a ranch of some sort?
Actually, I suppose I should figure out what type of animals. This is relevant, right? Dogs? Elephants? Horses? Sheep? Cows? Haha - this could take a while. Okay, is it a wild type of animal? Domesticated?
It's an emotional reason: Revenge? Despair? Anger? Love? Hatred? Fear? Guilt? Depression? Envy? Frustration? Shame?
Ah, I see. So busy & hectic - this is maybe a nice distraction to chill back out. We don't want you all stressed out. (Good thing this isn't a hard one.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Looking
So, you think this might take a while? I think you are already heading very much in the right direction.
Well, if he was staging it to look like he was trampled by animals, three obvious thoughts are: Is it related to a safari? Is it related to a circus? Is it related to a ranch of some sort? No to all.
Actually, I suppose I should figure out what type of animals. This is relevant, right? Yes.
Dogs? Elephants? Sheep? Cows? No.
Horses? Yes. (That didn't take any time at all.)
Okay, is it a wild type of animal? Domesticated? Doesn't matter.
It's an emotional reason: Revenge? Despair? Love? Fear? Guilt? Depression? Envy? Shame? No.
Anger? Yes.
Hatred? Frustration? Possibly these as well.
Latest puzzle, starting #656 (how did we get that many posts?)
A man is lying dead in the sand, apparently trampled. What happened?
Yes, it is a nice distraction. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Were the man and the murderer related? Were they in business together? Co-workers? Boss/employee?
Horses? Yes. Horses and the sand - this makes me think of the wild horses that run on the beach in Hawaii, near Waikiki I think. Are there wild horses on the beach? Is the reason for the murder related to the horses? Are the horses part of a horseback riding business? Are they race horses?
Anger? Yes.
Hatred? Frustration? Possibly these as well.
Is there a land dispute involved?
Were the man and the murderer related? Were they in business together? Co-workers? Boss/employee? Relationship unknown.
Horses? Yes. Horses and the sand - this makes me think of the wild horses that run on the beach in Hawaii, near Waikiki I think. Are there wild horses on the beach? Possibly.
Is the reason for the murder related to the horses? Assumption made, but no.
Are the horses part of a horseback riding business? Are they race horses? Assumption made.
Is there a land dispute involved? No.
Is it my assumption that there are multiple horses that is wrong? Is there only one horse involved? Was one of the men riding the horse? If so, was it the man? The murderer?Quote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Is there a game involved? A sport?
Off the wall, but are we talking about real horses or fake horses?
Is a battle involved? A war?
Does this occur during modern times?
You told Unky that animals were not involved. That could mean they were not real? Or it could mean that the murderer staged it to look like the man was trampled by a horse, but really there were no horses anywhere?
Would the authorities have reason to believe the man murdered had been riding a horse? Owned a horse?
Does this have anything to do with Sleepy Hollow or Ichabod Crane?
You said you don't like the word "beaten". Was it one blow that killed him?
Was the man doing something that made the murderer angry at that moment? Or was this a problem that had been occurring and reached the point of murder?
Had the murderer seen the man prior to the time he killed him?
Was staging the murder to look like a trampling by horses (or horse) symbolic? Or was it just to avoid getting caught?
Was the man doing something illegal? Immoral? Was he doing something that caused the man to hate him (or become angry or frustrated) at that moment he killed him?
Some day I've got to remember this place shuts down every night around this time and stopped trying to post.
You're still making the same assumption with this whole line of questioning. See your other question below.Quote:
Is it my assumption that there are multiple horses that is wrong? Is there only one horse involved? Was one of the men riding the horse? If so, was it the man? The murderer?
Is there a game involved? Yes. A sport? Um, I wouldn't call it that, you might, but close idea.
Off the wall, but are we talking about real horses or fake horses? Same assumption.
Is a battle involved? A war? No.
Does this occur during modern times? Yes.
(That's an interesting question. I'm even more convinced now that I know where you've gotten your last couple of puzzles from.)
You told Unky that animals were not involved. That could mean they were not real? Which still involves the same assumption. Or it could mean that the murderer staged it to look like the man was trampled by a horse, but really there were no horses anywhere? YES!!!
(You asked if it was staged. Then you asked if it looked like animals, and then horses. Somewhere after that you created horses, fake or otherwise. There are no horses in the scenario. I could project that horses could be around, currently or at some point in time, simply as part of the setting. But if so, they aren't involved in the scenario.)
Would the authorities have reason to believe the man murdered had been riding a horse? Hmm.. never thought about it. Yes, they'd have reason to believe he could have been riding one. Owned a horse? Not necessarily.
You said you don't like the word "beaten". Was it one blow that killed him? Yes.
Was the man doing something that made the murderer angry at that moment? Yes. Or was this a problem that had been occurring and reached the point of murder? Could've occured before but not relevant.
Had the murderer seen the man prior to the time he killed him? Yes.
Was staging the murder to look like a trampling by horses (or horse) symbolic? No. Or was it just to avoid getting caught? Yes.
Was the man doing something illegal? Immoral? No.
Was he doing something that caused the man to hate him (or become angry or frustrated) at that moment he killed him? Yes.
I had a very good laugh over this one. While I suppose something like this could happen in Sleepy Hollow, and while it would also be perfectly plausible, no. No Ichabod or vanTussels or trees that spring alive, and alas, no Johnny Depp either.Quote:
Does this have anything to do with Sleepy Hollow or Ichabod Crane?
Is, what the dispute was about, relevant?
- Is that about something the victim said?
- Is that about an object?
- Is that about a person?
(I know those last two are quite improbable as no more persons are involved and that there are no materialistic reason, but to be on the safe side)
If it was about something the victim said,
- Was that an insult concerning the game?
- Was that more of an annoying remark?
- Was that perhaps more about bragging?
Is the game an entertainment not involving prize money?
- If so, is a ball (or balls) involved?
- Are guns involved?
- Are weapons involved? (sword, arrow, lance, etc)
ETA: Hi JLo, thanks :o
Good thing I didn't ask about ghosts. It was one of my possibilities. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by morgaine300
Okay, so there is a game, possibly a sport, involved. Is it a game that is normally played in the sand? Is it volleyball? Football? Frisbee? (I really have my hopes up for volleyball, as that makes sense with the question about sand, but that really seems like a sport to me.) Kite flying? Building sand castles?
Was the anger over the man beating the murderer at the game?
Did the murder occur at day? Night? Is it relevant?
Did the game involve something that was used as the murder weapon?
I keep reading one of your replies: Did they fight each other? Do you mean like boxing or fist fight or karate? If so, no. Could this mean they were competing against each other?
ETA: Hi Unky. Good questions.
Welcome back. If I stay awake long enough, we might solve this tonight.
Is, what the dispute was about, relevant? You just created a dispute, but yes. (Anger doesn't imply dispute but there was one, yes.)
- Is that about something the victim said? Yes.
- Is that about an object? Yes.
- Is that about a person? No.
(I know those last two are quite improbable as no more persons are involved and that there are no materialistic reason, but to be on the safe side)
Sorry, I believe that was misleading. Because of the way the line of questioning went when you ask about an item, I took that with a different meaning. There is an item "involved."
Oh heck, did I just dig another hole? (Sorry, brain fart or something.)
If it was about something the victim said,
- Was that an insult concerning the game? No.
- Was that more of an annoying remark? It would be annoying, but probably not how you mean.
- Was that perhaps more about bragging? Not really.
Is the game an entertainment not involving prize money? Not in this case, or so logic would dictate.
- If so, is a ball (or balls) involved? No.
- Are guns involved? No.
- Are weapons involved? (sword, arrow, lance, etc) No.
Thanks for the welcome :)
Hm... then it means that the puzzle does involve money? (I asked about money earlier and the response was in the negative)
Is it a game we normally have in a casino? (cards, roulette, slots, dice etc)
Is it a game concerning luck? Skill? Prediction?
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