Ask Me Help Desk - Lateral Thinking Puzzle

Were they photographers?

Were they construction workers, remodeling, that sort of thing? Along those lines, electricians? Painters? No, none of those things.

Did Gordon knock something over or spill something? No

Are there any mistaken identities involved? No

Did Gordon know the man would be in the room when he went in? No

Even though he went in to take the trash, did Gordon do something for/with the man instead? No

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

You didn't really think li'l anal old me with my list missed that, did you? I was just being funny. :p

Actually, I thought you were just joking.

Did Gordon take something else instead of trash?
Did Gordon destroy something accidentally?
Was the room dark?
Were the people in there carrying out an experiment of some sort?
Does the boss have anything to do with the puzzle at the time of incident?
Does the boss arrive later in the scenario to discover what happened?

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

Were they photographers?

No, but you are getting warmer. I'd feel bad about the hint, but this is how the other puzzle went and this hint was given. I could have said no-ish. :p Plus, we want to finish it in fewer posts than they did.

Did Gordon take something else instead of trash? No
Did Gordon destroy something accidentally? Destroy is not the right word, but he ruined something.
Was the room dark? No
Were the people in there carrying out an experiment of some sort? No
Does the boss have anything to do with the puzzle at the time of incident? Yes, but probably not in the way you might be thinking.
Does the boss arrive later in the scenario to discover what happened? I am sure he was informed about it. Whether or not he arrived is irrelevant.

Are they photodevelopers?

Though I already asked about the dark room...

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Are they photodevelopers?

Though I already asked about the dark room...

No.

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Are they photodevelopers?

Though I already asked about the dark room...

Yeah, your undark room ruined that idea. :(

Is the boss going to sue the man?

Was the man specifically doing this job for or about the boss?
If so, is that the only relevance of the boss?

Did the door hit something?

Were they decorators?

Were they portrait painters? (That makes no sense cause how many people do you need to paint a picture?)

Now I'm dejected. I loved the photographer idea. It was the first thing I thought of that made some reasonable sense. (And I was thinking of the development when I asked, not the photographer taking.)

Is the boss going to sue the man? No

Was the man specifically doing this job for or about the boss? No
If so, is that the only relevance of the boss?

Did the door hit something? No

Were they decorators? No

Were they portrait painters? (That makes no sense cause how many people do you need to paint a picture?) No

Are you guys getting tired of this yet? I still say there is something in the recap that should stand out.

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(That makes no sense cause how many people do you need to paint a picture?)

Depends on whether a woman tells you how to do it. <snarkle>

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

Now I'm dejected. I loved the photographer idea. It was the first thing I thought of that made some reasonable sense. (And I was thinking of the development when I asked, not the photographer taking.)

You're idea was really on the right track. In the other puzzle, they suggested that and the person running the puzzle said that could have been an alternate solution. However, the real solution makes more sense.

I'm tired (I said last night I'd regret being up so late), but not tired of. Just stumped at the moment. I probably need to read the re-cap and just close my eyes for a while and ponder. (Maybe hold a purring puddy tat - that always helps everything.)

This is just a wild weird stab... but did the door opening cause some weirdo suction in the air and do... something, I don't know?

Did what the man and the workers have something to do with art?
- Does it involve paint?
- Does it involve light?
- Does it involve sculpture?

Did a strong wind blow when the door was opened?
- Did this make bank notes fly away through a window?

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

This is just a wild weird stab... but did the door opening cause some weirdo suction in the air and do... something, I dunno?

We were thinking along the same lines :p

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

I'm tired (I said last night I'd regret being up so late), but not tired of. Just stumped at the moment. I probably need to read the re-cap and just close my eyes for a while and ponder. (Maybe hold a purring puddy tat - that always helps everything.)

I'm getting a little paranoid now. I could have asked for clarification of a question early on, but it was so early on that I answered it in such a way I thought it would draw out more questions. I even asked a couple of friends about it and they agreed I should answer it the way I did. I hope you guys agree. :o

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

This is just a wild weird stab... but did the door opening cause some weirdo suction in the air and do... something, I dunno?

No

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Did what the man and the workers have something to do with art? It could fall under the classification of the arts.
- Does it involve paint?

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Did what the man and the workers have something to do with art? It could fall under the classification of the arts.
- Does it involve paint? No
- Does it involve light? No
- Does it involve sculpture? No

Did a strong wind blow when the door was opened? No
- Did this make bank notes fly away through a window? No

- Does it involve light? [bbcode][/bbcode]
- Does it involve sculpture? [bbcode][/bbcode]

Did a strong wind blow when the door was opened? [bbcode][/bbcode]
- Did this make bank notes fly away through a window? No

Something more generic: did opening the door itself cause something to happen?

As a side note, if Gordon did not know these people were in the room, I would say the fact that they saw each other (i.e. were in the same place) was indeed "coincidental."

I have a vague memory of something I said I'd have to ask about and get some clarification. I'll have to see what that was. I've also looked at several things that have been "iffy" answers and tried to think what to ask to "un-iffify" them. Just haven't thought what to ask.

Somehow that reminds me of being Tartuffified. Anyone know Tartuffe?

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Did what the man and the workers have something to do with art?
- Does it involve paint? No
- Does it involve light? No
- Does it involve sculpture? No

Interesting. You answered the three separate items, but not the main question. Was there another form of art then?

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

Something more generic: did opening the door itself cause something to happen?

As a side note, if Gordon did not know these people were in the room, I would say the fact that they saw each other (i.e. were in the same place) was indeed "coincidental."

Another tough one to answer... the opening of the door did not in itself cause a reaction with something else. I believe that is your question.

The problem I have with the word coincidental is that Gordon was going in to collect the trash, as has been established. Since he had a purpose to go in the room, I didn't see that as a coincidence.

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

Interesting. You answered the three separate items, but not the main question. Was there another form of art then?

I missed it. I went back and answered it almost immediately, but you clicked in there first.

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Is the work of this last person relevant? Yes.

We haven't asked about this. (That's under "boss.") We've been concentrating on what the man and his workers do, and not what the boss does. (I have thought about how he would be relevant, but not about his actual job.)

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

We haven't asked about this. (That's under "boss.") We've been concentrating on what the man and his workers do, and not what the boss does. (I have thought about how he would be relevant, but not about his actual job.)

His specific job isn't important so much as that he's the boss.

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Originally Posted by Just Looking

The problem I have with the word coincidental is that Gordon was going in to collect the trash, as has been established. Since he had a purpose to go in the room, I didn't see that as a coincidence.

I was referring to Gordon and the man seeing each other while Gordon was taking out the trash. It's coincidental that they ended up in that room at the same time. i.e. they did not plan to meet there and did not set out to. Which is what I meant. (Don't worry about - just pointing it out.)

So, being the boss is his job.

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

So, being the boss is his job.

Yes, it's really all you need to know about his job. When you figure out what happened, his role comes into play.

Was it Gordon coming into the room that caused the incidence?

Was it something he saw that caused the incidence?

Was it Gordon coming into the room that caused the incidence? Yes

Was it something he saw that caused the incidence? No, I wouldn't put it that way.

Did we lose Unky?

Not quite, I'm trying to think of what might have happened and I'm out of questions for the time being :o

Does it have to do with music?
The recording of an album?

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Not quite, I'm trying to think of what might have happened and I'm out of questions for the time being :o

I thought you might be off eating lunch. No school today?

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

Does it have to do with music?
The recording of an album?

No, not music.

:(

No, there will be no school until the exams. So, I'm home for this week and the next.

Does the work of the 'workers' has to do with sound?
Sight?
Smell?
Taste?

I'm a little out of questions too.

I keep looking at this money vs item thing at the very top and wondering if there's something I can ask about that, but don't know what. Something gets "ruined" but not "damaged."

We need to establish what these people do, and how the boss is involved, probably in that order.

Twice when "seeing" something was brought up, the answer has been "not quite right." (It needs tweaked.)

I think there's where we need to concentrate. Although I'm not sure what the clue is supposed to be that's in that list. I might be dismissing something important.

I'm just tired and can't really think about it anymore. So I'm going to get my contacts out, feed cats, etc. think while I'm doing it, and maybe check back in one more time before climbing in bed.

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Originally Posted by Unknown008

:(

No, there will be no school until the exams. So, I'm home for this week and the next.

Just in time for her to take off on a honeymoon? Well, then I guess me and you will be doing one. Oh, wait, you said you had to study - maybe this can be for breaks.

The music idea was interesting.

Were they FILMING something? (You know, like movies.)

I probably need to go to bed. I've been working while we are playing, but I still have work to finish tomorrow.

Unky - No to all of your questions.

I feel like this has gotten more complicated than it really is. :o The money thing - we know it involves a loss of money, but it wasn't cash thrown away, stolen, etc. "It cost a man thousands"

The clue is early on in the game.

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Originally Posted by morgaine300

Were they FILMING something? (You know, like movies.)

YES! Yay - now we are on a roll. I have a huge smile on my face.

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Originally Posted by Just Looking

YES! Yay - now we are on a roll. I have a huge smile on my face.

Of course, now we have to stay up and finish this. :p

So... Gordon entered a room where the man and the workers were in a play/scene. As Gordon opened the door, he was immediately in the film and ruined it. Hence, the film was to be redone and the man has lost millions of dollars.

Is that... it? :confused: