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  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:38 AM
    morgaine300

    You haven't been to bed yet? I just assumed you were now in your non-sleeping mode.

    Did Ned expect he would get enough money to never have to work again? Does, does. Sorry, does he expect?

    Is sis supporting him now?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:41 AM
    Unknown008

    Okay, no worries, I'll keep thinking :)

    Is the choice of the job related to hubby? Related to Ned's sis?

    Is the job's nature relevant? I mean, could he have decided to take some other job?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:41 AM
    morgaine300
    Is he living with sis and her hubby?

    If so, is hubby going to end up kicking him out?

    Is being a cars salesmen simply the only job he's able to get?

    Versus. Did he pick used car salesman in particular for some relevant reason?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:42 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    You haven't been to bed yet? I just assumed you were now in your non-sleeping mode.

    No, not yet. I usually go to bed at 11, wake at 1:00 or 2:00 for an hour, and then get up between 5:00 and 6:00. For some reason, I'm just not getting sleepy. These games do that to me.

    Did Ned expect he would get enough money to never have to work again? Does, does. Sorry, does he expect? Possibly - the puzzle doesn't specifically state that though.

    Is sis supporting him now? No
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:43 AM
    morgaine300
    Ha! Looks like we are now thinking along the same lines about the job.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:45 AM
    Just Looking
    Is the choice of the job related to hubby? Related to Ned's sis? Not sure how to answer this, but I would say it's related to the hubby. I may have to clarify later.

    Is the job's nature relevant? Yes I mean, could he have decided to take some other job? He had a specific reason to take this job.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:46 AM
    Just Looking
    Is he living with sis and her hubby? No

    If so, is hubby going to end up kicking him out? N/A

    Is being a cars salesmen simply the only job he's able to get? No

    Versus. Did he pick used car salesman in particular for some relevant reason? Haha - I was tempted to contradict myself, but then you'd be pulling your hair out. :confused:
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:50 AM
    morgaine300

    Hmm, if he took (is taking) that job for some specific reason, I'm certainly not getting the connection, so I don't know that you should think we're ready to "get it any second." (Well, speaking for me anyway.)

    In other words, if you feel you need to go relax so you can get some sleep, by all means do so.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:51 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Hmm, if he took (is taking) that job for some specific reason, I'm certainly not getting the connection, so I don't know that you should think we're ready to "get it any second." (Well, speaking for me anyway.)

    In other words, if you feel you need to go relax so you can get some sleep, by all means do so.

    I think I better go to bed. I don't want a relapse of the flu. See you tomorrow. :)

    ETA: This game starts at post 393.
    When Ned learned that his sister was dying, he decided to become a used-car salesman. How come?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:58 AM
    Unknown008

    I'll formulate it another then, maybe that's better?

    Is hubby the reason he decides to take this job?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 01:16 AM
    morgaine300

    Is Ned protesting the will?

    Is sis rich?

    Are there any stipulations in the will before someone can get their share? (Something they had to do, agree to, etc.)
  • Sep 28, 2010, 01:55 AM
    morgaine300


    How's about a recap:

    When Ned learned that his sister was dying, he decided to become a used-car salesman. How come?

    ---------------------------------------
    Was his sister married? Yes.
    Is his sister a child? No. Teen? No. Adult? Yes.
    Is his sister in a hospital? Unknown.
    Is sister sane? Yes.
    Did the sister have any kids? I would have to guess no.
    Are there other siblings of Ned and sis? I would have to guess no.
    Is sis's hubby dying as well? No

    Did he leave another job to take this one? Unknown
    Are any of his prior jobs relevant to this situation? No.
    Had he ever sold cars before? Unknown, but I don't think so.
    Ned is an adult, correct? Yes.
    Is his approximate age relevant? No.
    Did he move to take the job? No.
    Is something in Ned's life going to change because of his sister's death? (Other than typical grief - something that's relevant to this situation.) Yes.
    Is Ned married? Unknown
    Does Ned have any kids? Unknown
    Do Ned and sis's hubby get along? Unknown
    Is sis Ned's current boss (dying notwithstanding)? No
    Is Ned planning to work at any particular car dealership? No.
    Does Ned feel something other than sisterly love for his sister? (I really am sane, really I am. Sorry, it just popped in my head.) No.
    Is he planning to become a used car salesman by trade? As in for his job? As a job, yes
    Or, is he planning on sell a car (or two)? No
    Does Ned want to prove something to hubby? No.
    Did Ned expect he would get enough money to never have to work again? Does, does. Sorry, does he expect? Possibly - the puzzle doesn't specifically state that though.
    Is sis supporting him now? No.
    Is Ned jealous of hubby? Hmmm ... jealous? I'm not sure that's the way I would word it, but possibly.
    OK. So how about, was Ned envious of hubby or hubby's inheritance? I don't like envious either.
    Is greedy a better adjective? Yes, that's the right word.
    Hm... he is perhaps possessive? No.
    Is the choice of the job related to hubby? Related to Ned's sis? Not sure how to answer this, but I would say it's related to the hubby. I may have to clarify later.
    Is the job's nature relevant? Yes.
    I mean, could he have decided to take some other job? He had a specific reason to take this job.
    Is he living with sis and her hubby? No.
    Is being a cars salesmen simply the only job he's able to get? No

    Does sis have a will? Yes
    Is hubby in the will? Yes
    Is Ned in the will? Yes
    Is anyone else named in the will? No
    Did sis leave Ned a used car business? No
    Did Ned get something in the will? Yes.
    Did he get requested to do something in the will? No.
    Did hubby get something in the will? Yes.
    Did hubby get requested to do something in the will? No.
    Is Ned getting something more than hubby? No Less? No. Same? Yes.
    Is the something in the will money? Yes.
    Ned wants to get everything in his sister's will? Yes.
    Did Ned want some particular item? No.

    Is the cause of his sister's dying relevant? No.
    Did any relatives (including inlaws) work at the used car lot? No.
    Are their parents divorced? Unknown.
    Are their parents still alive? Unknown
    Do these two live in the same town? Most likely.
    Is anyone else dying? No
    Is a really scummy attorney involved in any way? No
    Do Ned and his sister share some particular thing that most people don't have? No.
    Does hubby need a car? No.
    Did hubby and Ned challenged each other over some silly bet? No.
    Does Ned want to make hubby buy a car to get the money? No.

    Asked but unanswered as of this post:
    Is hubby the reason he decides to take this job?
    Is Ned protesting the will?
    Is sis rich?
    Are there any stipulations in the will before someone can get their share? (Something they had to do, agree to, etc.)
  • Sep 28, 2010, 01:57 AM
    morgaine300

    OK, Ned "decided" to become a used car saleman...

    Is he doing this of his own free will?
    Getting coerced?
    Threatened?
    All of the above?

    Is there any significance in that he's becoming a used car salesman?

    Are any of hubby's friends involved in this?

    Do you remember what my other question was going to be?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 03:45 AM
    morgaine300

    Does Ned want to start his own business?

    Will he be working for someone else? Himself?

    Does Ned like cars?

    Does hubby like cars?

    Will hubby inheriit any kind of business?

    Will anyone inherit any cars?

    Does hubby already own a business?

    Quote:

    Is something in Ned's life going to change because of his sister's death? (Other than typical grief - something that's relevant to this situation.) Yes.
    We already know he will have an inheritance of some sort, and that he will becoming a used car salesman. Is there going to be some other change in his life other than these two things, because of his sister's death? (i.e. do we have yet another "change" to figure out?)
  • Sep 28, 2010, 05:47 AM
    adam_89

    Good morning everyone, although everyone is probably gone by now. I can play this one since I do not know the answer. Yay!

    Is Ned's sister's car coming to the dealership?

    If so, is there something about the car that only he knows?

    If so, is there something in the car that he wants?

    Is hubby also greedy?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 05:52 AM
    adam_89

    Does anyone in the family know about Ned deciding to take this job as a car salesman?

    Or is he taking this job to have pity from his sister to get more money?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 06:25 AM
    Just Looking


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    I'll formulate it another then, maybe that's better?

    Is hubby the reason he decides to take this job? Yes



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Is Ned protesting the will? No

    Is sis rich? Yes

    Are there any stipulations in the will before someone can get their share? (Something they had to do, agree to, etc.) No

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    How's about a recap:

    Thanks. The last thing I remember thinking about before falling asleep is that I thought you'd do a recap. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    OK, Ned "decided" to become a used car saleman...

    Is he doing this of his own free will? Yes
    Getting coerced? Threatened? All of the above? No, to all of these.

    Is there any significance in that he's becoming a used car salesman? I was thinking about that, figuring the question would come. It could have been a new car salesman, but there is a reason "used' makes more sense.

    Are any of hubby's friends involved in this? No

    Do you remember what my other question was going to be? No ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Does Ned want to start his own business? No

    Will he be working for someone else? Yes Himself? No

    Does Ned like cars? Irrelevant

    Does hubby like cars? Irrelevant

    Will hubby inheriit any kind of business? Unknown

    Will anyone inherit any cars? No

    Does hubby already own a business? Unknown

    We already know he will have an inheritance of some sort, and that he will becoming a used car salesman. Is there going to be some other change in his life other than these two things, because of his sister's death? (i.e. do we have yet another "change" to figure out?) No

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Good morning everyone, although everyone is probably gone by now. I can play this one since I do not know the answer. Yay!

    Great. I was pretty sure that would be the case. I think it's a pretty obscure site. I tried googling a bunch of the questions from the site and none of them came up, so I was thinking you probably hadn't seen this site. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Is Ned's sister's car coming to the dealership? No

    If so, is there something about the car that only he knows? N/A

    If so, is there something in the car that he wants? N/A - but good thinking.

    Is hubby also greedy? I have no reason to believe he is.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Does anyone in the family know about Ned deciding to take this job as a car salesman? No

    Or is he taking this job to have pity from his sister to get more money?No

  • Sep 28, 2010, 06:44 AM
    adam_89

    Wow, I got absolutely nowhere. I had an idea that I was leading towards and now, I am lost. After reading all of this, I had those questions come up and was hoping I was in the right direction. This one seems like it will be fun.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 06:50 AM
    adam_89

    Is somebody's car coming to the used dealership?

    Is there something relavent about one of the cars on the lot?

    Is Ned wanting to sell a used car to his sisters husband?

    Did Ned have something to do with his sisters death?

    May have been asked, but did Ned hate her husband?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 06:52 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Wow, I got absolutely nowhere. I had an idea that I was leading towards and now, I am lost. After reading all of this, I had those questions come up and was hoping I was in the right direction. This one seems like it will be fun.

    Either that, or you guys will be throwing stones at me. :D

    As I told Morgaine, I picked out a few puzzles from this site. They all have 70-90 posts. I didn't take the time to read through the posts, just the questions and answers.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 07:04 AM
    adam_89

    I am sure that everyone will enjoy it.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 11:31 AM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Is somebody's car coming to the used dealership? No

    Is there something relavent about one of the cars on the lot? No, it's not about a particular car.

    Is Ned wanting to sell a used car to his sisters husband? No

    Did Ned have something to do with his sisters death? No, and she's not dead yet.

    May have been asked, but did Ned hate her husband? I have no reason to think he hated the husband. If you read over Morgaine's summary there is another emotion involved.

    Oops, somehow I didn't see this earlier. Must have been too early. :)
  • Sep 28, 2010, 11:45 AM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Thanks. The last thing I remember thinking about before falling asleep is that I thought you'd do a recap. :)
    LOL.


    Quote:

    Great. I was pretty sure that would be the case. I think it's a pretty obscure site. I tried googling a bunch of the questions from the site and none of them came up, so I was thinking you probably hadn't seen this site. :)
    I already have plenty without going some place new. Although I do have some sites I haven't looked through much. But for the moment this at least leaves ones I don't know. (I've even thought about trying my hand at making something up myself - hmm.)

    If it's that hard, at least I might still have a chance at getting back to it before someone else comes in for the steal. Cause I probably can't be back until late evening. I figured some morning person would've solve it by now. :D

    But I did copy all the new stuff and plopped it on a flash drive to take to work, in case I get a break.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 12:17 PM
    adam_89

    Sorry, I was not paying attention when I used a different tense. As far as the emotion in the summary, I will go try and find it now. I skipped it since I read the whole thing until the end.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 02:54 PM
    morgaine300

    Hmm, no more questions yet. Maybe I still have a shot at this. I actually got a break at work but it's almost over at this point.

    Adam, I kept using paste tense as well and when she tried to give me a hint about it, it went right over my head. And I still do it. It's easy to think she's already dead.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 03:04 PM
    morgaine300
    Which leads to a question...

    Is it significant in any way that sis is not dead yet?

    Is Ned going to do something else significant while he's selling cars, such as with the cars themselves or something else at the car lot?

    Is he taking this job now, before his sister dies? Or waiting until afterwards? Or does it matter?

    Does Ned have any expectations that his sister might change her will before dying?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 03:07 PM
    morgaine300
    Is there something Ned is planning to do that will somehow get him part/all of hubby's inheritance?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 03:25 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Which leads to a question...

    Is it significant in any way that sis is not dead yet? Yes

    Is Ned going to do something else significant while he's selling cars, such as with the cars themselves or something else at the car lot? Yes

    Is he taking this job now, before his sister dies? Yes Or waiting til afterwards? No Or does it matter? Yes, it's significant.

    Does Ned have any expectations that his sister might change her will before dying? No

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Is there something Ned is planning to do that will somehow get him part/all of hubby's inheritance? Yes

    That was a good set of questions. Now I know you'll get it soon. :p
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:00 PM
    morgaine300

    Well, it only tells me I'm on the right track, but I still don't know what. Unfortunately, unless yet another one of my students doesn't show up, I have to get back to work and can't even work on it until later.

    BUMMER!

    (And if anyone else solves it, could you at least do the white-font de-spoiler so we don't see it?)
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:01 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Well, it only tells me I'm on the right track, but I still don't know what. Unfortunately, unless yet another one of my students doesn't show up, I have to get back to work and can't even work on it til later.

    BUMMER!

    (And if anyone else solves it, could you at least do the white-font de-spoiler so we don't see it?)

    Hope you get back in time. Unky will probably be on later tonight, but Adam is gone for the day.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:03 PM
    morgaine300
    No clue where I'm going with this but...

    Is he trying to find a way to kill hubby before sis dies?

    Is he going to steal anything?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:05 PM
    Just Looking
    No clue where I'm going with this but...

    Is he trying to find a way to kill hubby before sis dies? Yes

    Is he going to steal anything? No
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:14 PM
    morgaine300

    Next student is late so I'm still hanging in there...

    Going to take a crack at this...

    Ned wants to be on the car lot so that he has an 'excuse' to be able to drive the cars, i.e. borrow a car, so that he can run down hubby and kill him, so he can then have the entire enheritance.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:16 PM
    morgaine300

    Hmm, that's hard to tell. I did the white font thing there.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:22 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Next student is late so I'm still hanging in there...

    Gonna take a crack at this...

    Ned wants to be on the car lot so that he has an 'excuse' to be able to drive the cars, i.e. borrow a car, so that he can run down hubby and kill him, so he can then have the entire enheritance.

    Response is in white.

    I'd say that's really close. The solution doesn't say he'll run him over, but he has a reason to drive one of the cars.
  • Sep 28, 2010, 04:35 PM
    morgaine300

    Oh well, getting there. But now I have a student so can't think about until later when I get home.

    Arrg! So close. :rolleyes:
  • Sep 28, 2010, 06:16 PM
    morgaine300

    So...

    Is he going to get hubby into one of the cars with him?
    Is he going to take one of the cars to their house?
    Is he going to get hubby to take a test drive?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 06:25 PM
    Just Looking
    Is he going to get hubby into one of the cars with him? No
    Is he going to take one of the cars to their house? Yes
    Is he going to get hubby to take a test drive? No
  • Sep 28, 2010, 08:34 PM
    morgaine300

    Is he going to put a bomb in the car?
  • Sep 28, 2010, 09:11 PM
    Just Looking
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by morgaine300 View Post
    Is he going to put a bomb in the car?

    No

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