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If the Male is 23 and the Female is 14 and if the Mother leaves the state and gives consent to marry with the two is it legal the marriage certificate says legal and binding, so can they get in trouble there is also a baby on the way . The Female lied to the Male about the age and did not come clean until pregnant just curious. The part is from W.V and were married in S.C where you can marry at age 14 with consent .
W.V and S.C?
Can you be more specific, this is an international site.
I'm going to guess West Virginia and South Carolina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
I know some people (Man and woman) who left the state of W.V and went to South Carolina, along with the girls Mother who had a paper notarized from he husband and herself before leaving the state. The Mother consented to the marriage she signed and waited 24 hours for papers or marriage license I should say, then couple was married their ages were 23 and 14 and child on the way. Im sorry I am not great at grammar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
Well, in South Carolina this is the law;
The age of consent in West Virginia is also 16.Quote:
The age of consent in South Carolina is 16 and there is no close in age exemption. It is a Class D felony for an adult to have sex with a child below the age of 16.
So either way, the OP (original poster) has committed statutory rape if the 14 year old is pregnant with his child.
Yes I'm sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by teacherjenn4
Just wondering because the S.C site says you can marry with consent at age 14Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
To marry in South Carolina, here is the law:
If you are under 18, you will need a certified copy of your birth certificate and a notarized statement of parental consent.
The minimum age for a female is 15 and it is 16 for a male.
In West Virginia:
18, 16 with parental or guardian consent. Special provisions allow marriage for underage parties when the female is pregnant and for situations in which underage applicants have no parent or legal guardian.
Really? That's not what I found. What site did you look at?Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
Marriage laws in South Carolina. I did not get on here to ruffle feathers I just ask a question because I was curious and the couple had birth certificates, social security cards and were married by a Justice of Peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
You're not ruffling any feathers. I simply asked what site you went to, because you stated that in South Carolina you can marry at 14 with consent, and that's not what I found.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...82VEfZK7rxokfw
You should read this, particularly this section;
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SECTION 20-1-100. Minimum ages for valid marriage.
Any person under the age of sixteen is not capable of entering into a valid marriage, and all marriages hereinafter entered into by such persons are void ab initio. A common-law marriage hereinafter entered into by a person under the age of sixteen is void ab initio.
Go back to the site marriage laws in South Carolina and read down to where it talks about being under the age of 18 and it looks to me if it was illegal they would have been turned down or arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
It looks like there was an amendment passed in 2008 that changed it to 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
I urge you to look at the actual law.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...82VEfZK7rxokfw
SECTION 20-1-100. Minimum ages for valid marriage.
Any person under the age of sixteen is not capable of entering into a valid marriage, and all marriages hereinafter entered into by such persons are void ab initio. A common-law marriage hereinafter entered into by a person under the age of sixteen is void ab initio.
SECTION 20-1-100. Minimum ages for valid marriage.
Any person under the age of sixteen is not capable of entering into a valid marriage, and all marriages hereinafter entered into by such persons are void ab initio. A common-law marriage hereinafter entered into by a person under the age of sixteen is void ab initio.
HISTORY: 1997 Act No. 95, Section 1, eff June 11, 1997; 2000 Act No. 397, Section 1, eff August 17, 2000.
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So how is it I'm wondering they went and waited 24 hours and got married with Mother of bride at her side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Who married them?
Don't know. You'd have to ask the justice of the peace, and the parties involved. My guess would be they lied about her age, or faked documents, or just had a ceremony.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
The way I'm reading it, they can have a ceremony, it's just not legal until she's 16. So they had a ceremony, but they're not legally married.
No not fake. I saw the real documents legal and binding. I saw the documents with my own eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
seal on document marriage license and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
The baby's Mother took proof of pregnancy and showed it to the people there while applying for license.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
I can't find anything in SC law that would allow a marriage or even a marriage license for someone under 16. Even with proof of pregnancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
What is your concern in this? If the state of SC issued the certificate it could be invalid and the marriage annulled.
Without use seeing the documents or talking to the JP who performed the marriage, we can't tell you why it happened. We can only review the law and report what the law says.
I can not see where the marriage can be valid, if there was any false documents given.
Also it may appear that the clerk was in error of giving the license.
* including the entire issue of minor leaving state to be married, which is another problem.
My feelings is that this marriage could be challenged on several grounds, Also the sex and pregnancy happened prior to marriage, so the act of statutory rape still happened before there was any marriage protection.
So the marriage gives the man no protection, and I suspect the marriage could be challenged if someone wanted to
Clearly this marriage was to protect the 23 yr old for a statutory rape charge. Whether it worked depends on whether someone, including a prosecutor wants to press charges.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty;
"SECTION 20-1-100 Minimum ages for valid marriage.It appears that the marriage in SC was void.
Any person under the age of sixteen is not capable of entering into a valid marriage, and all marriages hereinafter entered into by such persons are void ab initio. A common-law marriage hereinafter entered into by a person under the age of sixteen is void ab initio. "
CHAPTER 1 - MARRIAGE - South Carolina Statutes
As Fr_Chuck points out, even if the marriage were effective, if the conception happened before marriage, the man is probably guilty of statutory rape. One would have to know which state it was in which the sex took place to be sure.
Well, if she's truly under 16, the documents are not valid and binding. They might exist and say that, but if someone improperly married an underage girl, the marriage is not valid. The man is guilty of statutory rape. If you know these people, please report this to the authorities - this girl needs to get into foster care and away from the crazy adults in her life.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
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Both parties to a marriage should appear in person at the office of a South Carolina County Probate Judge and file a written application. This application asks for the full name, social security number, age, and place of residence of both the bride and the groom. It is a sworn statement that must be signed by both the bride and the groom and notarized in the office of the Probate Judge.
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Where did you get that from? It clearly goes against SC law. It looks like it is from a site that offers a compilation of state laws, but they don't guarantee accuracy. And as several of us have noted the law is VERY clear.
That site has old information on it. The laws have been updated.
South Carolina Marriage Consent Laws
•With Parental Consent: 16 and 17 year-olds can marry in South Carolina only with the consent of a parent.
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•If you are under the age of 18, parental consent can be granted for boys and girls who are at least 16 years old. All minor applicants must file an original birth certificate or a certified copy of their birth certificate, which becomes a part of their permanent application record. The parent or legal guardian of a minor applicant must appear at the same time as the minor to present identification and sign a form consenting to the marriage.
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They got it from here:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottGem
South Carolina Marriage License Laws > SC Wedding Officiants
I would suggest sending them a link to to the law we have cited to the e-mail address they list.
Im sorry I forgot to say that I found this site I don't know where they saw or town or anything like that, but yes I do agree it is sad. Why do girls lie about age though and boy gets the bad end.
Yes, the boy does get the short end of the stick, but I do have to say, I have yet to see a 14 year old that could pass for an 18 year old. So either way, the 23 year old should have known better.Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn25244
No matter what, the girl is 14, she can't marry even with parental consent, and the fact that she's pregnant with this mans child, is statutory rape. Also, the marriage isn't a legal marriage.
How are you involved in this? Are you the 14 year old girl, the 23 year old boy, or just a friend or relative?
So you think this 23 yr old didn't realize the 14 yr old was underage? I find it hard to buy that. Frankly no one should be having sex with someone they don't know that well.
But we are still curious where you fit into this.
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