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His dad won't see him says he wants to see him with out me which is not happing an I've told him is not having a d an a test

Is he the legal father? Is he on the birth certificate or signed an acknowledgement of paternity? Is he refusing a DNA test or are you?

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

Is he the legal father? Is he on the birth certificate or signed an acknowledgement of paternity? Is he refusing a DNA test or are you?

ANY question on law needs to include your general locale as laws vary by area.

he's not on his birth cert my son was two in may his dad only made contact on the 19/0312 everything was okay till is ex started I've said no to the test as its an insult . His family an him a strangers to my son he wouldn't stay with out me anyway can a judge make my have the test done?

Sorry yes he is is really dad

Yes a court will grant him a test. And if the test is positive and you have refused him visitation the court will not look kindly at it.

You should be going after him for child support.

I don't want it to go to court we get on okay it's this girl an he is been stuben I've asked him to come to my house he has refused what if I don't go to court? I haven't stopped him he said he wants to see him with out me I've said no his not on his birth cert either

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Originally Posted by Shanang

I don't want it to go to court we get on okay it's jst this girl an he is been stuben iv asked him to come to my house he has refused what if I don't go to court? I havnt stopped him he jst said he wants to see him with out me I've said no his not on his birth cert either

I don't want his money I would rather it chock him plus he works cash in hand don't pay tax

Sorry still waiting for an ans

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what if I don't go to court?

Then you will be forced by Court order to go.
[QUOTE=Shanang;3168093] can a judge make my have the test done?QUOTE]
Yes, of course!

[QUOTE=GV70;3168147]Then you will be forced by Court order to go.

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can a judge make my have the test done?QUOTE]Oh really I didn't knw that he can't make me leave my son with his dad on his on tho can he? An this can all be done even tho his not on his birth cert
Yes, of course!

I am more than sure that if he files in Court for paternity determination, a DNA test will be granted. There is something that is called Public policy and that Public policy requires a child to have a father and to be supported by two parents.

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Originally Posted by GV70

I am more than sure that if he files in Court for paternity determination, a DNA test will be granted. There is something that is called Public policy and that Public policy requires a child to have a father and to be supported by two parents.

I want him to see him but not with out me, and I don't want to go to court has its not nice for my son ,he his been Steuben there really is no need for it thank you though

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Originally Posted by Shanang

I want him to see him but not with out me, and I don't want to go to court has its not nice for my son ,

Then you can try to work with him together. He shall sign Paternity acknowledgment and to have some contact with the child. If he wants overnights then he will have to file for physical custody rights and to prove in court that it is in the child's interest him to have possession for the wished time. I am in doubt that a judge will give him overnights when the child is still a baby.

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Originally Posted by GV70

Then you can try to work with him together. He shall sign Paternity acknowledgment and to have some contact with the child. If he wants overnights then he will have to file for physical custody rights and to prove in court that it is in the child's interest him to have possession for the wished time. I am in doubt that a judge will give him overnights when the child is still a baby.

well he drinks about 20 cans a night so I wouldn't want that so does that mean I lose my rithgts or though I'm the one who has raised him so far?

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well he drinks abt 20 cans a night

Hahahahaha- Me,too!

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so does that mean I lose my rithgts or tho I'm the one who has raised him so far?

There are two types of custody-legal/ means having the right and the obligation to make decisions about a child's upbringing. / and physical/ means that a parent has the right to have a child live with him or her./
The custody can be sole and joint.
The courts usually grant joint legal custody and sole physical custody to one parent with visitation rights to the non-custodial parent.

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Hahahahaha- Me,too!

There are two types of custody-legal/ means having the right and the obligation to make decisions about a child's upbringing. / and physical/ means that a parent has the right to have a child live with him or her./
The custody can be sole and joint.
The courts usually grant joint legal custody and sole physical custody to one parent with visitation rights to the non-custodial parent.

Okay thank you for yr help please god it won't come to that if he don't know where I live an I don't get the court letter an don't turn up then I won't get in trouble will I? Only because I'm moving soon

It is not so easy .

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It is not so easy .

Sorry what's not? You have lost me

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Okay thank you for yr help please god it won't come to that if he don't know where I live an I don't get the court letter an don't turn up then I won't get in trouble will I? Only because I'm moving soon

You keep digging a deeper hole for yourself. If you ignore a court summons, that will be big trouble for you. If you hide the child from him, that can get you in big trouble as well.

If he files in court before you disappear then you can be prosecuted for parental kidnapping.

It comes down to this. You chose to have sex with him. If he was good enough to drop your pants for, then why isn't he good enough to be a father. You made that decision and now you have to live with it for the rest of your son's life.

Your son is entitled to a father and a father's financial support. The courts will rule that way. The more you interfere with his rights, the more sympathetic to him the courts will be. So your best bet is to file for child support and full custody. If he applies for visitation you request supervised visitation. Your best bet is to get his rights narrowly defined by a court.

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You keep digging a deeper hole for yourself. If you ignore a court summons, that will be big trouble for you. If you hide the child from him, that can get you in big trouble as well.

If he files in court before you disappear then you can be prosecuted for parental kidnapping.

It comes down to this. You chose to have sex with him. If he was good enough to drop your pants for, then why isn't he good enough to be a father. You made that decision and now you have to live with it for the rest of your son's life.

Your son is entitled to a father and a father's financial support. The courts will rule that way. The more you interfere with his rights, the more sympathetic to him the courts will be. So your best bet is to file for child support and full custody. If he applies for visitation you request supervised visitation. Your best bet is to get his rights narrowly defined by a court.

I'm not diss aspiring I'm being a house in this country he doesn't need to know where it is ! He didn't want to know his son for the first two yrs so are you saying I should go to court first then or what this is getting very confusing

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Originally Posted by Shanang

this is getting very confusing

No. That's the way the system works in the USA.
The children are not viewed as properties.

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Originally Posted by GV70

No. That's the way the system works in the USA.
The children are not viewed as properties.

I'm not calling him a property I'm saying I don't want to give him my address

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I'm not calling him a property I'm jst saying I don't want to give him my address

Was the father this big heavy drinking loser when you were having sex with him... or did that happen after the child was born?

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Was the father this big heavy drinking loser when you were having sex with him ... or did that happen after the child was born?

After he only got in contact in march my son was two in may, il go solicitor in the morning

As Scott said you keep digging a deeper hole for yourself.
Try to put yourself in another shoes. Let's imagine that a third party/ a judge/ have to look in a case where a father wants to establish rights and a mother is not willing to cooperate and hides her/ and the child's/ her present whereabouts is.

Ops... you are in UK

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ops ...you are in UK

Yeah why is that oops? I've been more than fair with him an I don't want to go to court so don't see why I have to by made that's all I'm happy for him to see him but not with out me why does that make me the baddy?

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Yeah why is that oops?

Because the laws vary from country to country and from state to state. There is a big difference between the laws in USA and UK.

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I don't want to go to court

And I do not want to see Obama as the president but I can change nothing.

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so don't see why I have to by made that's all I'm happy for him to see him but not with out me why does that make me the baddy?

Who said you were bad because it?

Generally in the UK if a father is proven to be the father, then he gets immediately Parental responsibility which is similar to legal custody. After that he can file in Court for contact order/ visitation/. There is no strict conditions how much time to be granted.
According to the Children Act ,
(1)In this Act —
“a contact order” means an order requiring the person with whom a child lives, or is to live, to allow the child to visit or stay with the person named in the order, or for that person and the child otherwise to have contact with each other;
“a prohibited steps order” means an order that no step which could be taken by a parent in meeting his parental responsibility for a child, and which is of a kind specified in the order, shall be taken by any person without the consent of the court;
“a residence order” means an order settling the arrangements to be made as to the person with whom a child is to live; and
“a specific issue order” means an order giving directions for the purpose of determining a specific question which has arisen, or which may arise, in connection with any aspect of parental responsibility for a child.

I have seen many orders from two times direct contact a year to shared residence plan.

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Because the laws vary from country to country and from state to state. There is a big difference between the laws in USA and UK.

No jst coz yr saying I'm digging myself deeper , didn't relies this was American il jst go to a solicitor thanks tho sorry to have troubled you

And I do not want to see Obama as the president but I can change nothing.

Who said you were bad because it?

no because yr saying I'm digging myself in deeper didn't relies this was American il go to a solicitors sorry for troubling you an thanks for yr time

I bet the solicitor will tell you that the father can file for paternity determination and contact order.

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I bet the solicitor will tell you that the father can file for paternity determination and contact order.

Okay thanks

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he doesn't need to know where it is !

Yeah he does!! You didn't seem to understand what I said before. He is the child's father. He has rights. You can't ignore that! Ok,so he didn't want to be part of his son's life the first 2 years. So he had a change in heart. He's allowed. The fact that he ignored the first 2 years will be considered by the court.

And yes, I'm saying you need to get your custody and visitation established before you move. Again, you chose to have sex with him. You know have to live with that decision.

If you find this confusing then get a lawyer.