Ask Me Help Desk - Grandmother chain smokes cannabis - are her children and grandchildren in danger?

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again:

30 joints is a lot. How many are ok? What's the minimum she can smoke before she gets ratted on?

excon

For me it's not the number of joints she's smoking that's the main issue.

If she's smoking in front of the kids, that's the issue to me. If she wants to do pot then that's on her, but the kids don't have a choice. The least she can do is take it outside. There's no way she's doing that if she's smoking 30 joints a day and caring for all of these kids.

Thirty is excessive, and I don't see how she can be a good mom when she's stoned 24/7, which she must be if she's smoking that much.

I don't have a minimum number to offer.

If she smokes even one joint in front of her kids, that's when I'd rat her out.

If she has a few a day, but doesn't do it in front of her kids, continues to care for her children properly, then I don't have a problem.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello smoothy:

Certainly, if marijuana killed people, I'd think like you. However, not one single person has ever died from smoking pot - NOT ONE.

If you choose to make legal pronouncements about the people who use it, you SHOULD know the health risks. You don't.

excon

It causes cancer... And that Fedral Law has been on the books for far longer than I've been alive.

Marijuana kills people just like anything else you might smoke. Tobacco included. And not just from cancer... from accidents caused while your reflexes are impared while under the influence. Just the same as it does to drunks. I don't drink heavily beyond a glass of wine or a beer with dinner sometimes... and I never smoke... anything.

THeere is ABSOLUTELY ZERO proof marijuana has never killed anyone. ANd if you wish to make that claim... you better back it up with studies that are independent and not funded by, taken by, or influuenced by drug users.

Because Even Water... will kill you.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

It causes cancer.....

Hello again, smoothy:

I see you offer NO proof whatsoever except your flapping gums...

excon

THIS IS WAY OFF TOPIC.

Take the discussion of cannibis to another board.

On THIS thread, can we please stick to the LEGAL options the OP has regarding stopping her ex's mother from smoking pot around her child?

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Originally Posted by Synnen

On THIS thread, can we please stick to the LEGAL options the OP has

Hello again, Synn:

The legal options aren't always the best options. We're not robots here.

excon

Excon,

I know that---but this is on the LEGAL boards

It'll end up closed if we don't stay on topic and answer the OP rather than debating with each other.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

I see you offer NO proof whatsoever except your flapping gums...

excon

You started it ex... The Federal law is on the Books... prove it isn't. And Prove a Federal law doesn't pre-empt all lower laws. Anything else is immaterial. And we are talking Children's welfare here... CPS WILL take thse kids when they become aware of the situation. As well they should. No kids should be in a house with guardians who have substance abuse issues of any kind.

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Originally Posted by joypulv

1) Take any concerns you have about your son and where your ex takes him back to Family Court.

2) Your worries about his mother and her children need to be left to him and his relatives.

** I edited the quote by adding numbered lines so this will be easier to follow. **

1) You got this part right. These concerns need to be taken up in a courtroom. Where you didn't get it is that if the child/children are in immediate danger then you must act in the best interest of the child. Its not about waiting for a judge. Even exparte orders take time.

2) You got this part wrong. As stated by the OP their child is around the person of concern. That raises the red flag and is automatic to having the OP involved in the situation. So its not just kept in the ex's family. Its up to the OP to act responsibly.

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Originally Posted by baybgirl1993

My ex-partners mother smokes around 30 cannbis joints a day. She has 4 children under 5 and I am worried about their welfare. She chooses to buy her drugs instead of things for them. Also,I am worried when my partner takes our son to see her - she is a bad role-model for him. Should I report her to social services or am I overreacting? And should I stop my son seeing her?

As far as the OP is concerned there is a direct responsibility to act even if not involved in illegal drugs. If the person doing the consuming is to be left with the child it would be irresponsible paranting to allow it. A court would act on that point alone. Impaired is impaired. The Op has every right to restrict such behavior around their child.

To OP: Act accordingly. Be responsible for your child. If your child is being put in danger or at risk then its up to you to change that situation. As far as the other children involved in this matter if the drugs are knowingly illegal then you must act as a responsible citizen or be culpable for any actions that occur from knowing what's going on.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello b:

She may not be a very good mother, but it's not because she smokes pot. Having her children split up, put in foster care, and her being prosecuted are FARRRR worse than smoking pot.

excon

Here is where we part ways. If a person is on drugs of any kind for medical reasons or recreational use then so be it. But if the drugs are abused then maybe it might be best to have a wake up call rather then steal the childhoods completely away from the kids. It is mentioned by the OP that they are buying drugs rather then buying needed items for the household. If that is the case and abuse is occurring then its time for intervention.

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

If that is the case and abuse is occuring then its time for intervention.

Hello again, dad:

There's no parting of the ways. I have no problem with an intervention... That's distinctly different than snitching on them... Or, did you mean what I hope you didn't mean?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, dad:

There's no parting of the ways. I have no problem with an intervention... That's distinctly different than snitching on them... Or, did you mean what I hope you didn't mean?

excon

What I mean is whatever it takes to correct the situation. If the person doesn't allow for voluntary intervention then other steps may have to be taken for their and everyone's good. Its sad but sometimes that is what it takes to correct a bad situation.

The reason I took this 'story' with only a few grains of salt from the get go is that I don't believe that the grandma can AFFORD 30 JOINTS A DAY UNLESS SHE'S GROWING IT HERSELF. Do you know how much you get for say $50 these days? Not even close to enough for 30. But even at 50/day, that's $1500 month.
I don't believe that OP has ever seen grandma smoke anything 30 times a day.
Her question about turning grandma in, I believe called for an opinion, and it was and still is my opinion that the ex, grandma's son, should be the one getting the facts straight before calling the cops.

I got negged for that, and negged back. First time I've done so, and it was justified.
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