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Just to clairify, yes Bob is with the grandmother, Katie left Bob because she didn't want to play tug-a-war with her baby,and when she came back to get the baby, he as well as all of his belongings were gone! The next two nights the father spent the night at the apartment, assuming without the baby, because none off Bob's stuff was there! Katie is scared for her life, to go there while Jim is there, that is why she hasn't went over there while he is there. Katie asked the cops to go with her and the said they could not do that! She left Bob there because Jim has filled her head that if the cops get called CPS will be contacted and she will never get to see the baby again, so avoiding domestic violence she left the baby there.

She has a lawyer now, and a restraining order is in place, but not a protective order, the cops said that's a different thing? He can be arrested for protective order but not for restraining order??

As of now, we think that Bob is with the grandmother in a home that is not suitable for living, can we call CPS annonomously and have them go out and look?

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Just to clairify, yes Bob is with the grandmother, Katie left Bob because she didnt want to play tug-a-war with her baby,and when she came back to get the baby, he as well as all of his belongings were gone! The next two nights the father spent the night at the apartment, assuming without the baby, because none off Bob's stuff was there! Katie is scared for her life, to go there while Jim is there, that is why she hasnt went over there while he is there. Katie asked the cops to go with her and the said they could not do that! She left Bob there because Jim has filled her head that if the cops get called CPS will be contacted and she will never get to see the baby again, so avoiding domestic violence she left the baby there.

She has a lawyer now, and a restraining order is in place, but not a protective order, the cops said thats a different thing?? He can be arrested for protective order but not for restraining order????

As of now, we think that Bob is with the grandmother in a home that is not suitable for living, can we call CPS annonomously and have them go out and look?

Meagan, I'm going to sound like an unsympathetic monster here and for that I apologize in advance. I also try to never judge (although I don't know everyone will agree with my evaluation of my past behavior) - BUT -

If someone had one of MY children in Hell, guarded by the Devil himself, I would be there getting my child back. There is no way I would leave my child behind, no reason, no way, for one hour, one day, one night. No way, particularly when she has nothing but complaints about the Grandmother and Father. It's not like this was a happy relationship in all directions and there was a spat and she left - not that that would be an excuse - but... no way! She left her child behind and she's too afraid to go and get him... or try to see if he's in the apartment? But she left her child.

Once again - nothing good to say about the boyfriend and his mother... so she has a child with him. And stays with him?

Pure and simple, Police or no Police, law or no law. If Katie has allowed "Jim" to emotionally abuse her - and that is what this is with the nonsense about CPS and the Police and whatever else - for some period (and I would say physically abuse her if she is afraid of him) then she owes it to her child to get the child out of there. So bad news comes to worse news - the child would be out of there if CPS investigates and so orders. I think they BOTH need parenting classes anyway and she needs a wake up call.

If she has a restraining order but needs a protective order then she needs to be on the Courthouse steps tomorrow and file for the protective order - of course, she has an Attorney and where is he/she during all of this?

And why in the World would you call CPS anonymously to report this situation unless you think the mother DOES have a concern about losing custody? So call CPS, tell them what you know and get them involved. Again - if this were MY child the Police would be busy restraining ME!

Get off the Internet and hire a Licensed Private Investigator - hire a good one and you'll know where EVERYONE is in a matter of hours.

Sorry, but I don't think the whole story is being posted.

I have to agree with Judy. I am very picky on who I leave my kids with and if I thought there was a problem concerning my child's safety in a house the door would be off the hinges and/or windows would be smashed to get my kid out. Waiting patiently would never have been an option. Maybe she'll at least learn from this and not leave her kid behind anymore. That being said get an attorney to get emergency custody established and the judge can also order an arrest warrant if appropriate. She will have to explaine why it took so long for her to do this and why she was afraid that CPS would take away her custody too though.

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Sorry, but I don't think the whole story is being posted.

Thank you for your advice and opionion. I know that unless anyone has been through the same situation no one will understand, and no two situation are exactly the same. Again thanks for your opionion.

Actually if the mother has legal custody of the child by birth certificate and if her ex isn't present with the child to care for the baby then if " MOM " requests the child and G'ma refuses to return the child that's kidnapping. Kidnapping is holding someone against their will or by force. Since the child is so young then the responsibility goes on the parent to act in the child's best interest. So if the parent is requesting the child and nobody boths to release the child that's kidnapping.

She was afraid the CPS would take the baby away because she thought they would think he was in an unstable environment.

JUST TO BE CLEAR: All the paper work has been filed, and the appropriate law enforcement has been contacted!

I guess no one understands what I am asking, what can we do in the mean time. Court is not scheduled until Thursday morning!

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Actually if the mother has legal custody of the child by birth certificate and if her ex isnt present with the child to care for the baby then if " MOM " requests the child and G'ma refuses to return the child thats kidnapping. Kidnapping is holding someone against their will or by force. Since the child is so young then the responsibility goes on the parent to act in the childs best interest. So if the parent is requesting the child and nobody boths to release the child thats kidnapping.

That's what we thought, but the Police said that as long as one parent knows then its not kidnapping, but Jim will not tell Katie where Bob is, but they said that's still OK, and not kidnapping!

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She was afraid the CPS would take the baby away because she thought they would think he was in an unstable enviroment.

JUST TO BE CLEAR: All the paper work has been filed, and the appropriate law enforcement has been contacted!

I guess no one understands what I am asking, what can we do in the mean time. Court is not scheduled until Thursday morning!

Okay, that I can answer.

There is nothing you can do in the meantime. You have an Attorney. You've contacted the Police. You are out of options.

Everything else is just an opinion from people unfamiliar with your particular State, its laws, the situation -

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what I am asking, what can we do in the mean time. Court is not scheduled until Thursday morning!

Hello again:

I've told you what to do in the meantime. You just don't want to do it.

I'm going to say this one more time. You don't go to court over a kidnapping. You go to the cops. If the cops won't do anything, you don't go hide - you RAISE HELL!! Call the FBI.

I'm tired of talking to a wall.

excon

Last of the 2cents from me on this post just to clarify ( I hope ) 2 issues.

1) amber alerts
AMBER Alert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2) kidnapping
Kidnapping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Child abduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I hope those help with some understanding of what they are and how they may apply here.

We Won And Bob Is Safe And Sound At Home!

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We Won And Bob Is Safe And Sound At Home!

Excellent - your friend must be beyond excited and relieved.

Did anyone ever explain what the law is, why this was so confusing and complicated?

Ok, My Uncles A Cop The Baby Has Technically Just Been Kidnapped No Matter Who Its By And About The Money Situation There Something Called Child Support Its When The Father Of The Baby Pays So Much A Month Out Of What He Makes To Support The Child.
Hope This Helps,
Sunkissed

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Excellent - your friend must be beyond excited and relieved.

Did anyone ever explain what the law is, why this was so confusing and complicated?

Complicated and confusing because no police department would not help us because it was a civil case. Now that there is a court order they can assist us!

[QUOTE=SUNKISSED]Ok, My Uncles A Cop The Baby Has Technically Just Been Kidnapped No Matter Who Its By And About The Money Situation There Something Called Child Support Its When The Father Of The Baby Pays So Much A Month Out Of What He Makes To Support The Child.

I think we all know what child support is but ask your Uncle why if it's kidnapping no one would help her - I still don't understand that part and 1/2 the World says, no, the Police would step in and the other 1/2 says, no, it's not kidnapping. Attorneys in my area don't know!