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  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:12 PM
    Enigma1999
    I have been bamboozled
    Okay, so I really don't know where or how to begin this. Please bare with me, for this is very hard for me to pour my heart out. I have been on this site for a while now and feel as if I have gotten close to some of you, and now I need your help.

    A little history here, I am 32 years old, divorced with two children. I was seeing a man (Mark) for a while now. I have mentioned him before in a previous thread. He is 37, also divorced with two children. I have known him for three years now. While I was ging through my divorce, Mark was there for me. We started as friends where we were setting up play dates for our children to get together and play, not to mention, he and I compared notes with our divorces'.

    Things started slow and was going great. We saw each other about three times a week which slowly became four then five. After a couple of months we started to date. That went really well. I thought at first that perhaps he could be a fling, but then I realized that I was falling in love with him. He too told me that he was falling in love with me. After a while of dating we decided to make love... That was fantastic! Things were going great after that. We saw each other almost every single day. We had the children play together, we shared things with each other that we didn't share with others. I fell in love with him. For months every thing was great! I met his parents and family and friends. Same with him.

    Then in March, my Grandmother had passed away. I had decided to take a train to Chicago. The day before I was supposed to leave, I realized that I was late. We were always careful, but I had to make sure. Well, I took the test and it came up that I was pregnant. OMG! I can't believe this is happening! I called Mark up to tell him, and he was stunned! He said, "please forgive me if I am quiet, I am just shocked!" I understand.

    The next day he drove me to the train station. On the way there, he took my hand in his and said," don't worry, it will be ok."

    I went to Chicago to deal with the death of my Grandmother. Mark and I spoke on the phone every night. He kept reasuring me that things would be OK.

    On the way back to Chicago, he called me while I was on the train, and said to me, " I have been doing some thinking, and I am not in love with you and I still love my ex!" ! My heart was broken. I cried the whole damn trip home!

    When I got back to Arizona, he and I got into contact and sat down at the kitchen table. He asked if I would have an abortion. Then he pretty much begged for it.

    I set up an appointment for an abortion a few days later. He came and picked me up to take me. I cried, begged, and pleaded with him. "Please, if you have any love or compassion for me, you wont make me do this!" He kept driving that stupid car of his. Finally, we get there, and I am crying so bad that the Doctor takes me in her office to talk with me. I take Mark into the hallway to ask him one last time, "Mark, look me in the eyes, do you really want to terminate this pregnancy?" He said yes. So I went back into the office and said the Doctor I'm not going trough with this. I left the office with him following me, when I told him, I don't care what he thought, and that I'm not going through with it! He grabbed me and started to cry and said, "I'm glad you didn't go through with it." ! I am proud of yself for sticking with what I believe in!

    Mark told me that he wanted to be in this baby's life. BULL S@#T! I am three months pregnant and he hasn't spoken to me in weeks!

    That's OK though, I will take care of this baby without his dumb a55!

    I feel damaged! I feel broken! I will never love again! I will never trust again!

    I don't know how he sleeps at night!

    I am not sure as to why I told my story... Perhaps seeking knowledge, perhaps to vent.

    Please forgive me for this long story.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:18 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    So when the baby is born, file for full custody, get child support and raise your child
  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:24 PM
    Kitkat22

    I think you are very, very brave. If he is stupid enough to let someone like you slip through his hands, then he doesn't deserve you.

    Who knows.. he may just need time and if he loves you he'll be back. Can you forgive him? As I said before you did the right thing and I hope he does also.

    Believe me there are good men out there( although I think mine is the best) I really think that with a little time and patience he'll come back... Good Luck
  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:32 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    I think you are very, very brave. If he is stupid enough to let someone like you slip through his hands, then he doesn't deserve you.

    Who knows..he may just need time and if he loves you he'll be back. Can you forgive him? As I said before you did the right thing and I hope he does also.

    Believe me there are good men out there( although I think mine is the best) i really think that with a little time and patience he'll come back......Good Luck

    I believe that Mark is a very selfish person for doing this! Can I forgive him? Nope!

    I feel as if I did the right thing. I believe that every woman is entilted to their own decisions when it comes to abortion, for ME though, I am not about to use abortion as a form of birth control! I made this child and I will raise it too with or without his help.

    Thank you Kit for your kind words!
  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:33 PM
    friend4u178

    Damn Enigma I'm so sorry you have to go through this :(

    He did sound like a nice fellow from everything you've said about him , but he's obviously showed his true colours , and to do it after you fell pregnant is just damn low in my opinion. I suppose you just need to concentrate on the baby now and ride through the storm. There'll be many hurdles ahead I'm afraid :( I'm lost for words.

    I consider myself one of the many friends you've made on here and I'm here for you if you need someone to talk to.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:37 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178 View Post
    Damn Enigma I'm so sorry you have to go through this :(

    He did sound like a nice fellow from everything you've said about him , but he's obviously showed his true colours , and to do it after you fell pregnant is just damn low in my opinion. I suppose you just need to concentrate on the baby now and ride through the storm. There'll be many hurdles ahead I'm afraid :( I'm lost for words.

    I consider myself one of the many friends you've made on here and I'm here for you if you need someone to talk to.

    You are my friend! Thank you!

    He was very good... He played me so very well! I would have done anything for him! That is why my title is "I have been bamboozled".
  • Jun 15, 2010, 06:37 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Quote by Enigma,
    I believe that Mark is a very selfish person for doing this! Can I forgive him? Nope!

    I feel as if I did the right thing. I believe that every woman is entitled to their own decisions when it comes to abortion, for ME though, I am not about to use abortion as a form of birth control! I made this child and I will raise it too with or without his help.

    Thank you Kit for your kind words!

    I'm glad you are woman enough to keep the baby. What a joy that child will be. Everyone here will help you through this and you won't be sorry for your decision. He needs a good swift kick in the old family jewels.:eek:
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:11 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    :QUOTE=Enigma1999;2395313]I believe that Mark is a very selfish person for doing this! Can I forgive him? Nope!

    I feel as if I did the right thing. I believe that every woman is entilted to their own decisions when it comes to abortion, for ME though, I am not about to use abortion as a form of birth control! I made this child and I will raise it too with or without his help.

    Thankyou Kit for your kind words!




    I'm glad you are woman enough to keep the baby. What a joy that child will be. Everyone here will help you through this and you won't be sorry for your decision. He needs a good swift kick in the old family jewels.:eek:[/QUOTE]

    Lol a swift kick somewhere!
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:13 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    I'm glad you are woman enough to keep the baby. What a joy that child will be. Everyone here will help you through this and you won't be sorry for your decision. He needs a good swift kick in the old family jewels.:eek:

    Lol a swift kick somewhere![/QUOTE]



    I hope he knows someday what he's lost... that would be a real kick in the rear!:)
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:20 PM
    Enigma1999

    Well Kit, the way I see it, is that not knowing this child will be his loss.

    The fact that he has two children already and claims to have such a great love for them baffles me. He knows then, well you would think.

    I never pressured him after admitting he didn't love me. I had told him that you don't have to love me, marry me, or even be with me. Just be there for this child. That's all I ask. But no, he can't even seem to want to do that. Again, I don't know how he can sleep at night...
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:27 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    Well Kit, the way I see it, is that not knowing this child will be his loss.

    The fact that he has two children already and claims to have such a great love for them baffles me. He knows then, well you would think.

    I never pressured him after admitting he didn't love me. I had told him that you don't have to love me, marry me, or even be with me. Just be there for this child. That's all I ask. But no, he can't even seem to want to do that. Again, I don't know how he can sleep at night...




    Gosh.. I know you must be feeling mad, sad and happy all at once. I despise men like him (God forgive me). They have fun playing but when something comes along like a little baby... they run away. Not all of them are like that.
    Don't get yourself to upset. It's his loss. I'd love to smack him right in the big smug face:mad:... Kit
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:34 PM
    positiveparent

    You did right by your child and that's commendable so many females take the abortion option, and couldn't care less, you though did and do care and for your unselfish decision you will be rewarded with an amazing child who will be the light of your life.

    Congratulations, you're having an angel...
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:43 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by positiveparent View Post
    You did right by your child and thats commendable so many females take the abortion option, and couldnt care less, you though did and do care and for your unselfish decision you will be rewarded with an amazing child who will be the light of your life.

    Congratulations, youre having an angel...




    So true. A sweet little angel!:)
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:44 PM
    aimee_tt

    Well all I can say is good riddens to a poor exucse of a human being.

    You may not be able to trust now but you will find someone one day.

    Just live life and raise this child to be nothing like its father...

    I wouldn't worry about whether he is going to be there for your child... I doubt he is mature enough to raise the child.

    I hope everything goes well... I hope this child turns out to be a supermodel or rockstar or athlete and shows his father what he missed out on!
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:46 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aimee_tt View Post
    Well all i can say is good riddens to a poor exucse of a human being.

    You may not be able to trust now but you will find someone one day.

    Just live life and raise this child to be nothing like its father...

    I wouldnt worry about wether he is going to be there for your child... I doubt he is mature enough to raise the child.

    I hope everything goes well... I hope this child turns out to be a supermodel or rockstar or athlete and shows his father what he missed out on!

    You go girl... :)
  • Jun 15, 2010, 07:55 PM
    Enigma1999

    You guys are great! I thank you.

    Did you know he had the nerve to ask me a few weeks ago, "Did I blow it with you, Jaclyn?" Ummm you think?

    He also said, "If it's a girl, I hope she looks like you....actually, I hope she doesn't, then I'm going to have problems." I said, "PFFFT, if it's a boy, I hope he doesn't act like YOU!"

    Hopeless, just hopeless!
  • Jun 15, 2010, 08:01 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    You guys are great! I thank you.

    Did you know he had the nerve to ask me a few weeks ago, "Did I blow it with you, Jaclyn?" Ummm ya think?!

    He also said, "If it's a girl, I hope she looks like you....actually, I hope she doesn't, then I'm going to have problems." I said, "PFFFT, if it's a boy, I hope he doesn't act like YOU!"

    Hopeless, just hopeless!



    Just say "don't worry about it .You're never going to see it" Then say "Blow it is a mild word for what you did"... "Now Buzz off"... Just my opinion. Bless your heart..
  • Jun 15, 2010, 08:20 PM
    aimee_tt

    Yeah no matter who it looks like.. It won't be anything like him. I hope for your sake it doesn't look like him.

    Did he blow it... Is he that stupid? WOW
  • Jun 15, 2010, 08:41 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aimee_tt View Post
    Yeah no matter who it looks like.. It wont be anything like him. I hope for your sake it doesnt look like him.

    Did he blow it... Is he that stupid? WOW

    Yeah... he should wear a shirt with "I"M A STUPID JERK" written on it. That's and idea... a great idea if I say so myself.:D
  • Jun 15, 2010, 08:42 PM
    Alty

    Enigma, you vent away dear.

    I consider you a friend, and I really wish I could be there with your right now, holding your hand, driving to Marks house, beating the snot out of him. Oops... was that out loud? :eek:

    I'm a firm believer that what comes around goes around. He'll get his, I just hope you get to see it happen.

    Boy am I vindictive. Hubby better never scorn me. ;)
  • Jun 15, 2010, 08:57 PM
    KBC
    From a males perspective(while I huddle in the corner, shaking in the womanly power words being said... quiver,quiver... LOL)

    Right now you are going to need this hatred,this distrust,this fear..

    My only hope is... that you don't make a career out of it.NOT ALL MEN are this way, some of us would actually not mind being involved with the women we impregnate:rolleyes:

    Situations like yours are, unfortunately,all too common,and yet unique all the same.Your fortitude in his face! Wow, I am really impressed.Most of the women I have ever known would have done as he requested,if for nothing else just to try to 'keep him'... 5 stars for effort and personal boundary setting:)
  • Jun 15, 2010, 09:08 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    From a males perspective(while I huddle in the corner,,shaking in the womanly power words being said...quiver,quiver...LOL)

    Right now you are going to need this hatred,this distrust,this fear..

    My only hope is...that you don't make a career out of it.NOT ALL MEN are this way,,some of us would actually not mind being involved with the women we impregnate:rolleyes:

    Situations like yours are,,unfortunately,all too common,and yet unique all the same.Your fortitude in his face!!Wow,,I am really impressed.Most of the women I have ever known would have done as he requested,if for nothing else just to try to 'keep him'...5 stars for effort and personal boundary setting:)

    She is one really nice lady. I respect her very much for not caving and for standing up to him.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 09:14 PM
    Alty

    I just want to point something out, and I know it's way too soon for you to hear this, but I hope that when you're ready, you'll remember my words.

    There are great guys out there. Just look at this site. Just look at this thread. Don't give up on love. Sometimes you have to go through a lot of Jacka$$es before you find a Stallion.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 09:16 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I just want to point something out, and I know it's way too soon for you to hear this, but I hope that when you're ready, you'll remember my words.

    There are great guys out there. Just look at this site. Just look at this thread. Don't give up on love. Sometimes you have to go through a lot of Jacka$$es before you find a Stallion.





    I agree with Alty... there are wonderful men out there.. Don't let one jerk.. keep you from trusting another man when you're ready.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 09:24 PM
    aimee_tt

    That's true there are good guys out there I have seen a few myself..

    There is a guy out there for you.. but for now concentrate on yourself and that little bundle of joy growing in your belly!
  • Jun 15, 2010, 09:25 PM
    Kitkat22

    Lots of great guys out there...
  • Jun 15, 2010, 09:52 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Enigma, you vent away dear.

    I consider you a friend, and I really wish I could be there with your right now, holding your hand, driving to Marks house, beating the snot out of him. Oops...was that out loud? :eek:

    I'm a firm believer that what comes around goes around. He'll get his, I just hope you get to see it happen.

    Boy am I vindictive. Hubby better never scorn me. ;)

    Alty, Thank you for that! I too believe in karma... He is a piece f work, but I know I will get through this.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 10:02 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    From a males perspective(while I huddle in the corner,,shaking in the womanly power words being said...quiver,quiver...LOL)

    Right now you are going to need this hatred,this distrust,this fear..

    My only hope is...that you don't make a career out of it.NOT ALL MEN are this way,,some of us would actually not mind being involved with the women we impregnate:rolleyes:

    Situations like yours are,,unfortunately,all too common,and yet unique all the same.Your fortitude in his face!!Wow,,I am really impressed.Most of the women I have ever known would have done as he requested,if for nothing else just to try to 'keep him'...5 stars for effort and personal boundary setting:)

    Thank you for your kind words. You are right!

    I don't think that all men are like him. To be honest with you, I didn't think that he was like that either.

    It's funny, you think that after years of knowing someone that you, I don't know, KNOW them. I NEVER thought in a million years that he was made of that.

    There are nights when I can't sleep, I think to myself, "How did I not see this coming?" "How did he play me so well?" "What do I tell this child in years to come, when he/she asks me, where is my Father?" "How can he sleep at night?"

    Yeah, I don't know, I do know this, I will be fine on my own raising this child. I don't need his punk a@@! He knew that the second I told him that I'm keeping it, and that I don't care what he thinks!

    As far as other men in the future... I have NO desire what so ever to even engage in any type of relationships!

    My priorities are my children and focusing on my career like I was before.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 10:05 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    Thank you for your kind words. You are right!

    I don't think that all men are like him. To be honest with you, I didn't think that he was like that either.

    It's funny, you think that after years of knowing someone that you, I don't know, KNOW them. I NEVER thought in a million years that he was made of that.

    There are nights when I can't sleep, I think to myself, "How did I not see this coming?" "How did he play me so well?" "What do I tell this child in years to come, when he/she asks me, where is my Father?" "How can he sleep at night?"

    Yeah, I don't know, I do know this, I will be fine on my own raising this child. I don't need his punk a@@! He knew that the second I told him that I'm keeping it, and that I don't care what he thinks!

    As far as other men in the future.... I have NO desire what so ever to even engage in any type of relationships!

    My priorities are my children and focusing on my career like I was before.

    It will all come together.. I know it will. You have us and your kids... We'll help all we can.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 10:15 PM
    KBC
    :(,maybe in time,this will change.
  • Jun 15, 2010, 10:19 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    :(,maybe in time,this will change.




    You are right...
  • Jun 15, 2010, 11:19 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    :(,maybe in time,this will change.

    I hope so. She deserves to find love, and so does the guy that's her destiny.

    This is just a bump in the road, a lesson to be learned, and something to take in, and then move on.

    I had so many jerks before I found my prince, and I gave the poor man such a hard time, because, like you, I was done with love. Actually, I can't say I was done, because I never gave it a chance. Too many men had beaten me down, used me, abused me, to give any of them a chance to get close, but R snuck in.

    Don't lock your heart up yet. Give it a rest, let it heal, but don't close it off. You deserve to be loved. You will be loved, because out there somewhere, there's a man that will treat you the way you deserve. There are so many of those men, so many on this site alone, so that should prove it. :)

    Don't close yourself off, just take a bit of a break. You'll be ready again. One day, when you're not even looking, prince charming will step through the door and you'll never look back.

    20 years for me, and I still love him, and best of all, he still loves me. :)
  • Jun 16, 2010, 08:15 AM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I hope so. She deserves to find love, and so does the guy that's her destiny.

    This is just a bump in the road, a lesson to be learned, and something to take in, and then move on.

    I had so many jerks before I found my prince, and I gave the poor man such a hard time, because, like you, I was done with love. Actually, I can't say I was done, because I never gave it a chance. Too many men had beaten me down, used me, abused me, to give any of them a chance to get close, but R snuck in.

    Don't lock your heart up yet. Give it a rest, let it heal, but don't close it off. You deserve to be loved. You will be loved, because out there somewhere, there's a man that will treat you the way you deserve. There are so many of those men, so many on this site alone, so that should prove it. :)

    Don't close yourself off, just take a bit of a break. You'll be ready again. One day, when you're not even looking, prince charming will step through the door and you'll never look back.

    20 years for me, and I still love him, and best of all, he still loves me. :)

    Thank you again Alty! Your kind words are inspirational as everyone else's. It's nice to be able to talk to people about this.

    My family and a very few few people know my situation. They are supportive of me. I haven't told too many people. Now, I understand that in about a month or so, I will really show and that it will all come out of the woodwork. Then I have some explaining to do. Not that I feel as if I have to jutify myself to anyone. After all I am 32 with my own home and a pretty nice paying job. I'm no a 16 year old inthis position.

    I do, however, feel like a Jerry Springer case... "Girl gets knocked up and guy wants nothing at all to do with them!"

    He knows and I know the truth, and soon this child will, in time.

    I will have to get passed that part, as my Mother says.


    I don't know what upsets me the most about this situation... The fact that it was a failed relationship, that is beyond my control? The fact that he seemed son genuine from day one and turned into this? The fact that I have this Hate for him nw, and now I am with his child?


    I am so upset with this, that I want to see him in pain! Can anyone understand that?
  • Jun 16, 2010, 09:03 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    Thank you again Alty! Your kind words are inspirational as everyone elses. It's nice to be able to talk to people about this.

    My family and a very few few people know my situation. They are supportive of me. I haven't told too many people. Now, I understand that in about a month or so, I will really show and that it will all come out of the woodwork. Then I have some explaining to do. Not that I feel as if I have to jutify myself to anyone. After all I am 32 with my own home and a pretty nice paying job. I'm no a 16 year old inthis position.

    I do, however, feel like a Jerry Springer case.... "Girl gets knocked up and guy wants nothing at all to do with them!"

    He knows and I know the truth, and soon this child will, in time.

    I will have to get passed that part, as my Mother says.


    I don't know what upsets me the most about this situation.... The fact that it was a failed relationship, that is beyond my control? The fact that he seemed son genuine from day one and turned into this? The fact that I have this Hate for him nw, and now I am with his child?


    I am so upset with this, that I want to see him in pain!! Can anyone understand that?




    Of course... broken trust.. hurts more than anything... makes you feel as if you have been played. You feel used and you feel hate. That's normal.
    Any woman who has ever been hurt by a man feels the same. That little baby will bring the joy back and you'll see.. this guy will get his... someday.
    Don't get yourself all upset now.. . Kit
  • Jun 16, 2010, 04:57 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    Of course...broken trust..hurts more than anything...makes you feel as if you have been played. You feel used and you feel hate. That's normal.
    Any woman who has ever been hurt by a man feels the same. That little baby will bring the joy back and you'll see..this guy will get his...someday.
    Don't get yourself all upset now. ....Kit

    You got that right!! Ty
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:03 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    That's normal.
    Any woman who has ever been hurt by a man feels the same.

    And vice versa ;)

    Just sayin'...
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:06 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178 View Post
    And vice versa ;)

    Just sayin' ............................

    Absolutley right! It should be said as "People who hurt people"
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:07 PM
    aimee_tt

    I can understand what you mean by you want him to feel pain. I don't even know you or him and I wish he would feel more pain than what you feel!

    But you will get past this and come out a better person for it. '

    Plus like I said before this kid is going to be a star! Going to make a lot of money and car for you!. and the father will be in a nursing home!
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:12 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aimee_tt View Post
    I can understand what you mean by you want him to feel pain. I dont even know you or him and i wish he would feel more pain than what you feel!

    But you will get past this and come out a better person for it. '

    Plus like i said before this kid is going to be a star! going to make alot of money and car for you!... and the father will be in a nursing home!




    This kid will be so loved by everyone... :)
  • Jun 16, 2010, 05:12 PM
    Enigma1999
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by aimee_tt View Post
    I can understand what you mean by you want him to feel pain. I dont even know you or him and i wish he would feel more pain than what you feel!

    But you will get past this and come out a better person for it. '

    Plus like i said before this kid is going to be a star! going to make alot of money and car for you!... and the father will be in a nursing home!

    His loss. Not to mention he will look like a real dirt bag to his other children when they are older and learn of this. "You mean to tell me, I have a brother/sister out there that you never told me about....thanks Dad!" That's what they will say. He hasn't even told his parents yet. PFFFT what they will think...

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