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Originally Posted by Piercing_Lover_

I really think you need therapy. There can be something in your subconscious mind that happened to you in your past pertaining to men. You've also probably tired to suppress it so much that you nearly forgot that it happened. There is no reason why you should be terrified of men. Men tend to be very sincere to women, it doesn't have to be regarding a sexual gesture or reason behind it. If they feel you are beautiful, they want to be nice so that they're noticed. Just attend a couple therapy sessions! You should be fine. :)

I'm a psychology major so I kinda know these things ;)

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I'm going to reiterate everything you've already been told. Reading the entire thread really is important. Had you done that you'd know that the OP (original poster) is in therapy, and rejects everything her therapist asks of her, just like she's rejected all the suggestions we've made on this thread.

If only it was so easy as to say "I'm a psych major and you need therapy". Trust me, we've already tried that, and she's already doing that, and it's not working.

This issue isn't as easy as telling someone to seek therapy. The issue is with the poster, and until she gets out of her own head and starts to listen, there's nothing anyone, not even a therapist, can do.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Does a graduate degree trump a minor? Darn! But I sat closer to the front of the class than you did -

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I'm shorter than you are and sat in the front row. HA!

(As long as everyone was giving info on their psych credentials, I thought I would throw mine into the ring.)

You all got me beat... I just had one year of it in High School

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Originally Posted by smoothy

You all got me beat....I just had one year of it in High School

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*sigh* Well, we like you anyway -- and you have had an interesting lifetime of figuring out people.

I have a teenager, that should trump any psych degree. I have to be a psychologist every single day!

Sadly I took 1 year of law, a year of accounting, then I got a job as an underwriter and went back to college a third time. That time I did get my degree. What do I have to show for it? I work in retail for minimum wage. Yay me! :(

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Originally Posted by Alty

I have a teenager, that should trump any psych degree.

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With some teens that can help a person qualify as a psychotic... but I'm certain not in your case.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

With some teens that can help a person qualify as a psychotic....but I'm certain not in your case.

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LMAO! There are times when psychosis sets in. Teens are a class among themselves. Thankfully he does have a good foundation, and a mom and dad that are always there for him. But teens are teens. Sigh.

Read her other posts and observe the dates and spelling and you will see a person who has been off the meds for sometime, and the regression is obvious.

I doubt the OP even knows it, let alone admits it. So lets be careful, and direct her back to reality and that has to start with the proper support and guidance.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Read her other posts and observe the dates and spelling and you will see a person who has been off the meds for sometime, and the regression is obvious.

I doubt the OP even knows it, let alone admits it. So lets be careful, and direct her back to reality and that has to start with the proper support and guidance.

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I'm the first to admit I'm frustrated.

Do you have any suggestions? I'm sincere, not being sarcastic. Every suggestion is met with "No, because ..." Delusional or not delusional, now what happens?

This situation, I believe, requires one-on-one therapy. I've seen WG work miracles. Maybe everyone but WG should back off.

I don't know. I'm out of suggestions. I suspect other people are, too.

Finally, a positive response in her other thread: "yes i can follow direction and i could put the dvds on the shelf and the books too i think."

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Read her other posts and observe the dates and spelling and you will see a person who has been off the meds for sometime, and the regression is obvious.

I doubt the OP even knows it, let alone admits it. So lets be careful, and direct her back to reality and that has to start with the proper support and guidance.

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I agree, but I'm at a loss as how to go about support and guidance.

We've suggested all we can suggest, supported all we can support, and all we've gotten is negativity, unwillingness to listen, and whenever we don't agree with her, we get suicide threats.

I'll bow out, because I really have nothing more to add. I don't think anyone on this site can help this OP until she's willing to actually help herself.

I can feel bad for her, and hope she gets well, but I can't risk myself for her. I don't want to put myself into the position of once again losing sleep over someone on this site because they won't listen, and want to end it. Been there, done that.

I thought I could help. I tried, as did many others. The OP won't listen. So what's next? The only thing I can see anyone suggesting is that the OP get back on her meds. Maybe then we can help. Until then, I see very little anyone can do.

It's up to her, and only her. :(

Alty out.

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Originally Posted by Alty

Alty out.

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- And I hope she doesn't take other people with her when she kills herself.

- Judy out.

When you look at this person, they may be trapped, but coming here is reaching out, and as frustrating as they may be to us just imagine how frustrated she is in her world.

Hope she comes back about the meds though, that's the missing piece we need to know. Call me a softy or whatever, but the thought of giving up on a valuable human being is not an option. We all have value, even if we are trapped in a very dark place.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

When you look at this person, they may be trapped, but coming here is reaching out, and as frustrating as they may be to us just imagine how frustrated she is in her world.

Hope she comes back about the meds though, thats the missing piece we need to know. Call me a softy or whatever, but the thought of giving up on a valuable human being is not an option. We all have value, even if we are trapped in a very dark place.

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Not disagreeing with you at all Tal. In fact, I agree 100%. She does have value. I'm not leaving this thread, or this OP, because she doesn't have value. I'm leaving before I say something I can't take back, and before I make things worse. I've been biting my tongue through every single one of this OP's 141 posts. Pretty good considering that it's me, but I do have a breaking point, and I've reached it with this OP.

In other words, I can't help her. I've accepted that I can't, and in order to not get too emotionally involved, I've chosen to leave.

If anyone can get through to her, you can, so she's in good hands. I'm not leaving her without support. I just can't be that support anymore. I can't keep trying and getting no where. I'm not good at it. :(

LOL Alty, no one will ever question your big heart at all, least of all not me, because we all want a good outcome.

I don't question that from any one that responded on this thread.

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Originally Posted by redlipsticklena

hello. people falsely belive that if oyu think negative, you LIKE it and want it and do it on purpose and i don't know where they get that but it's not true at all. i odn't 'get' anything of value out of it. i feels i am just telling the truth instead of lying like therapist suggest i do.

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I don't think you like being negative. I think it is a protective shield and that protection is what you are getting out of it.

You don't like lying to yourself. I respect that. So instead of telling yourself what you see as a 'lie' what can you say that is positive and truthful to you? Let your therapist know that you need different affirmations than the ones she is giving you.

Telling the face in the mirror that you love them and promise to do right by them doesn't have to be a lie, make it a commitment.

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Originally Posted by Enigma1999

Yes and yes. I agree
She ONLY responds to who she wants to. She DOESN'T like ANY of the answers she is receiving from anyone! My hat goes off to Tal, who seems to be VERY tolerant of her behavior.

Guys...I hate to say it, but I think we are wasting our time here. Especially when I see that there are others how NEED and WANT our help!

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I cannot responds every single person. They write a lot and there's 11 pages of posts be for real. Your making assumptions and theyare wrong anyway. I respond to some now and some later. I respond to alty anddidnt like what she said didn't I. stop reading into everything and wrongly at that.

If theyneed and want your help feel free to go give it to them

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Originally Posted by Enigma1999

Lena, how old are you?

Were you sexually abused by a man, ever?

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I am 32

Yes. It is embarrassing. I toldmy therapist about this and she was embarrass I could tell so I don't bring it up no more

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Originally Posted by smoothy

The first step to overcome a problem is to FIRST ADMIT YOU HAVE ONE. THe second is being willing to take the steps needed to change.

As long as you think you are the only normal person and its everyone else thats wrong...you aren't going to get better.

And thats true not just for you, but for everyone else as well.

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I never said I was normal in anyway shape or form. I said everyone else is normal. I know I have problems