The switch has always been dedicated to this jbox. It's a new condo so there was just a canopy covering the hole in the ceiling before I connected the new lights.

Yeah I haven't seen anything like it at all in any of the guides I've read. Without it being attached to anything, current is always running and keeping the lights lit, regardless of the position of the switch.

OK so it has never had a switch in this box right? IF so, try this, the blk wire at the switch box is on the bottom and the orange is on the top...

This should be hot feed to your light. Have you connected the orange wire at the light to the smooth wire? So you will have orange to smooth, white to ribbed... and the blk and orange at the switch the way it is now...

Maybe for some reason the blk and ornage are hot?> don't know unless you have a meter to check that...

I'm going to check if orange is hot

One more thing. The blk wire from the light is going where? Is it wire nutted with all the other blk wires? It shouldn't be. Actaully a blk should feed the bottom switch screw, another blk coming off the top screw which feeds to the switch for power. Im thinking maybe the orange wire is taking the place of the blk wire. Somehow

Orange is indeed hot!

Orange -> smooth, White -> ribbed

And black is just capped because lord knows what the extra black in that jbox is really for...

Yeah where was the exrea blk in your box going too?? Was it capped with all the other blk hot wires?

Might outa take sum blk tape and run it around the ends of the orange to show that it is hott wire on both ends for future reference

Does light work now?

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one more thing. the blk wire from the light is going where? is it wire nutted with all the other blk wires? it shouldnt be. actaully a blk should feed the bottom switch screw, another blk coming off the top screw which feeds to the switch for power. Im thinking maybe the orange wire is taking the place of the blk wire. somehow

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The black is hot too, but it isn't the wire that is connected to the ON part of the switch. That's what the orange wire is, both in the switch box and at the light.

From the looks of it, the orange is taking the place of the black at the top screw feeding the switch for power.

I'm puzzled as to why there are two sets of hot wires at the light though.

I don't know either. Was hoping one of the gurus would chime in on this...

So, the bottom screw has a hot blk going to it now? On the switch?
We only need to get 1 hot on that switch and then the other screw will go up to the light to carry the power so that switch will work

Yeah, the bottom screw on the switch has a hot black going into it.

On the fixture it's the orange wire that's hot and controlled by the switch.

Everything's peachy now ;)

Thanks for the help! It feels good to have a better understanding of what's going on in there.

Yeah as we went along I got a better understanding of what u had. The damn orange threw me off. Must have used that 3 conducter wire just to confuse us.

Usually it's a blk hot to bottom screw, a blk in the top one to feed the light etc. then nutt the whites and grounds and BAM u have a switch

Glad its all good now. Whewwwwwwww :eek: :eek: :eek:

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Yeah, the bottom screw on the switch has a hot black going into it.

On the fixture it's the orange wire that's hot and controlled by the switch.

Everything's peachy now ;)

Thanks for the help! It feels good to have a better understanding of what's going on in there.

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Again might out of slap a few turns of l black tape on orange wire to show it is hott... On both ends

Yeah definitely.

Thanks again for sticking it out mate, much appreciated :D

NP Im at work anyway. I had the time ahahaha Have a good one!!

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