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  • Feb 25, 2009, 04:52 PM
    canady
    Chinese Shar-Pei 5 month old puppy, brush coat, black mask :-))

    My specialty:)

    Regards,

    Canady
  • Feb 25, 2009, 04:54 PM
    tickle

    Then I got pregnant at 39 and another little body was thrown into the mix. So it was me, the dogs, the baby, the chickens and anything else that could handle a veggie diet. And then there was the horse being eyes as potential...

    Tick
  • Feb 25, 2009, 04:58 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silverfoxkit View Post
    It is very poor advice to suggest that grapes should be given to dogs! They may have beneficial effects in humans, but dogs are not humans and their systems are not made to tolerate it, some less so then others. How would you feel if becuase of your poor advice someone gave their dogs a bowl full of grapes and it died because of it? Their deaths would be on your hands. your dogs have been lucky so far, but don't think that means every dog can eat them safely, or even most dogs.
    Are you a licensed vet as well as a breeder? Do you have anything valid to support your claim when actual veterinarian's have the medical proof to disprove you?
    Yes, commercial dog food can be dangerous for your pet, but so can feeding your pet known toxic foods.

    Hey wait a minute, my walker hound has been fed IAM for years and is a healthy happy older puppy !

    I think this thread has gone a little too far because I am not POISONING MY DOG.

    Tick
  • Feb 25, 2009, 05:02 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by canady View Post
    Chinese Shar-Pei 5 month old puppy, brush coat, black mask :-))

    My specialty:)

    Regards,

    Canady

    So, if I wanted one of your pups could I be assured of it being registered with the CKC ?
  • Feb 25, 2009, 05:11 PM
    Silverfoxkit

    Quote:

    I think this thread has gone a little too far because I am not POISONING MY DOG.
    I didn't say you were tick, just agreeing that commercial foods have their own hazards. Does every brand? No, but many have problems with recalls and things being leeked into the foods, as well as being nutritionally off balance. I also feed my dogs commercial foods, I just make sure to keep up with unsafe brands and recalls.
  • Feb 25, 2009, 05:34 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by canady View Post
    [I]Oh one other thing, my pups and dogs have been in magazines, commercials, calendars and the little one you see in my pic, one my pups, a calendar girl and very special. My dogs all of them were the epitome of health.

    I won't even tell you what they got for breakfast LOL.


    Again respectfully,

    Canady



    I am not part of this discussion, coming in late, BUT I find any and all of these claims to be meaningless unless an actual list of articles, magazines, etc. is posted.

    I could also post that MY dogs are in magazines, blah, blah, blah, and that I'm am accomplished author of books on dogs. When I post anything I've written (and state I've written it) I quote sources as well as where it's been posted/published before.

    LOL.
  • Feb 25, 2009, 06:19 PM
    Akoue
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by canady View Post
    Again please humour me, I am asking you for your definition of a breeder, and I will give you mine.

    How about someone who mates dogs and sells the offspring. I think the breeding of pure-bred dogs is morally repugnant myself. If people want a boutique item to show off, they can go to Bulgari. And, no, I've never bought a dog from a breeder. I've rescued a few from breeders, though. In fact, I had a Shepherd-Rottie that I got from a very reputable breeder. Seems the female (Shepherd) mated with a Rottie, and the guy was going to drown the pups. I took one and found homes for the others. He gave me 24hrs, and fortunately, all the pups were saved. This is a common practice among breeders.

    Quote:

    And I would like to see you produce information for me that commercial dog food DOES not produce, cancer, and not just cancer, skin, bowel, problems etc.
    And what would such evidence look like? Millions of dogs being fed commercial dog food and NOT dying of cancer? I'd say the jury's in.

    Quote:

    The potato thread is dead. I will still stick to what I said because I believe it and I use it, simple as that, you do not want to, don't. If I pay attention to statistics I WOULD BE INSANE. I mean really, one day something is good, the next week or year it is not, please.
    In other words, you don't want to be bothered with things like facts and information. Got it.

    Quote:

    I do not believe everything I read, especially when I see evidence of opposite, and my dogs living well beyond breed average.
    I had an aunt who smoked two packs of cigarettes a day and lived to be over 100yrs. Old. She didn't develop lung cancer or emphysema. Does this prove that smoking cigarettes isn't bad for one's health? Does it show that smoking cigarretes doesn't cause lung cancer?

    Quote:

    Oh one other thing, my pups and dogs have been in magazines, commercials, calendars and the little one you see in my pic, one my pups, a calendar girl and very special. My dogs all of them were the epitome of health.
    And you're proud to exploit them? Okay.
  • Feb 25, 2009, 08:45 PM
    Alty

    Quote:

    Excuse me but was it you that just bought a beagle puppy from a breeder instead of rescue or have I got you mixed up with Altenweg, if I have sorry, not good at going back and forth here yet, when you are so against breeders and so into rescue
    I bought a beagle from a reputable licensed breeder, and never have I said that I have a problem with licensed breeders. I do have a problem with backyard breeders and puppymills, people who only breed dogs for profit without giving a rats a$$ about the bloodlines and genetics. Please, if you're going to call me out on something, at least get your facts straight. Also, even though she was a reputable breeder, she was charging very little for her dogs, she does it for the love of the breed, not for a profit. To me, that's a true breeder. She still emails and calls me to find out how Chewy is doing. If only more breeders where like her.

    As for peanut butter, I told you the risks because you brought it up. I was talking about honey, you brought up peanut butter, but whatever, makes no difference. Either way, honey, peanut butter, not recommended until a child is a certain age. Peanuts because of allergies, honey because a baby cannot process it.

    As for new "breeders" that come to this site, and our "disrespect" for them. Respect is earned. Yes, it takes years and years to become a good breeder, but until you know what you are doing you shouldn't breed.

    The people who get our wrath are those that come here asking questions that even people who don't breed know the answers to and then telling us that they've already bred their dog, even though they have no idea what they are doing. Breeding is not something that should be learned by trial and error.

    You do have a right to your opinion, and yes, you have stated that you are a licensed breeder of 25 years, have books, shows, etc. etc. Good for you, if you are a reputable breeder than I pat you on the back. Are you also a vet, a scientist, a nutritionist for dogs? Do you have the credentials to back those up? You stated you where a nurse, for humans? Humans and animals are very different, you do realize that, don't you?

    Once again, I'm going to stick with the experts on this one, people that are scientists, nutritionists and vets, and they have stated that grapes and potatoes aren't good for dogs.

    I'm not willing to take that risk, you see, my dogs are not my livelyhood, they're my family.
  • Feb 25, 2009, 09:52 PM
    Crista

    Hi Drpepper7

    I found a list of things to NOT feed your pets, I found all of these over the net. I hope this helps

    Foods to Avoid Feeding Your Pet
    * Solanine (which is in potato peels)
    * Alcoholic beverages
    * Avocado
    * Chocolate (all forms)
    * Coffee (all forms)
    * Fatty foods
    * Macadamia nuts
    * Moldy or spoiled foods
    * Onions, onion powder
    * Raisins and grapes
    * Salt
    * Yeast dough
    * Garlic
    * Products sweetened with xylitol
  • Feb 25, 2009, 10:10 PM
    starbuck8
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Silverfoxkit View Post
    It is very poor advice to suggest that grapes should be given to dogs! They may have beneficial effects in humans, but dogs are not humans and their systems are not made to tolerate it, some less so then others. How would you feel if becuase of your poor advice someone gave their dogs a bowl full of grapes and it died because of it? Their deaths would be on your hands. your dogs have been lucky so far, but don't think that means every dog can eat them safely, or even most dogs.
    Are you a licensed vet as well as a breeder? Do you have anything valid to support your claim when actual veterinarian's have the medical proof to disprove you?
    Yes, commercial dog food can be dangerous for your pet, but so can feeding your pet known toxic foods.

    I absolutely agree with Silver here. It was poor to advise on a broad spectrum that the foods suggested were perfectly fine for dogs. Silver was correct in asking for anything valid to support this claim. I am also waiting for this information, as it seems that Canady is quick at asking for the info to support our claims, but when we have asked questions before the fact, there are just no answers to support her side.

    I will provide my info, if and when you have anything to show us to back up your side of the argument Canady. The manner in which you came here to challenge us, who have been here and answered questions, day in and day out, was less than appealing. It certainly did not make us warm up to you, and pull out the welcome mat, as you had seen that we did to welcome you yesterday.

    The info pertaining to this has been posted many times on this forum, and if you want to read about it, it's not terribly hard to find. Also, as you yourself have stated, you don't yet know how to navigate this site. You made a comment earlier that the question about potatoe's was over. You need to go back and read the rules of the site. This was the OP's question, and you have taken it so far off topic that we should have earlier brought this to your attention, that this is highjacking someone else's thread. You don't get to say when the topic is done with. This is not your question! If you want to argue about children, peanuts, your hotline (whatever that is) your pet calendars, your magazine articles, and breeding, then start your own thread! You just don't come here and demand that we supply you with information, when we have repeatedly asked you to provide yours, so we know what to go on. You've been nothing but condescending to our long time and valued members.
  • Feb 26, 2009, 06:31 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by canady View Post
    [I]I won't even tell you what they got for breakfast LOL.



    This is one step away from the ever popular "haha." I think LOL is the sound a person makes while blocking one's ears with one's hands so as not to hear anyone else's voice.

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