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  • Jun 27, 2012, 03:58 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    9 week puppy sick won't eat
    We got a 9 week old puppy from a friend maybe a week ago she had worms so we gave her deworming Med.Saturday she threw up Tuesday and won't eat since Tuesday she will drink but she only sleeps and we have no money to take her to the vet right now... what can I do?
  • Jun 27, 2012, 04:37 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maryknoopmyers View Post
    We got a 9 week old puppy from a friend maybe a week ago she had worms so we gave her deworming Med.Saturday she threw up Tuesday and won't eat since Tuesday she will drink but she only sleeps and we have no money to take her to the vet right now..... what can I do?


    I don't like do it yourself/over the counter medicating.

    At any rate - Parvo?

    And here comes the lecture - when you get a pet you are responsible for another life. That includes medical bills. Here are your choices - watch her suffer and die or stand up, do what you have to do, get medical help for her. For all I know (and I don't know what worming medication you used or where you got it) YOU overdosed her. You have internet access - cancel it and pay the Vet bills.

    If you can't afford the dog and its bills turn it over to a rescue, the SPCA, someone who can assess its suffering and treat it.

    Let's see - she's done nothing but sleep and vomit for 48 hours. Yes, she NEEDS to see a Vet.

    These questions get posted all the time - how did you intend to pay for her vaccinations? Is your friend the breeder? A back yard breeder? I worked for a rescue. I get involved every now and then. I'm the person who worries about, pays for, cries over the pet you couldn't afford - but got anyway.

    I got another call today about another owner who "can't afford" the bills. My house is full. I'll have trouble sleeping tonight. Are you losing sleep over "your" puppy"? I note you aren't even sure when you GOT the dog ("maybe").
  • Jun 27, 2012, 07:26 PM
    Alty
    Either take her to the vet or give her back to the friend that gave her to you. A dog isn't a toy. You've only had this dog for a week. It's only 9 weeks old. It needs shots, it needs to be spayed or neutered, and you can't even afford to take it to the vet when it's obviously ill.

    If you can't afford the vet, you shouldn't have a pet.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 07:40 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    Either take her to the vet or give her back to the friend that gave her to you. A dog isn't a toy. You've only had this dog for a week. It's only 9 weeks old. It needs shots, it needs to be spayed or neutered, and you can't even afford to take it to the vet when it's obviously ill.

    If you can't afford the vet, you shouldn't have a pet.


    "Maybe" a week - maybe longer or shorter. OP doesn't know.

    And who knows what the worming medicine was OR if the dog had worms.

    Disgusted.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 07:45 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    "Maybe" a week - maybe longer or shorter. OP doesn't know.

    And who knows what the worming medicine was OR if the dog had worms.

    Disgusted.

    I'm more than disgusted.

    I'm sick of people getting pets and then saying they can't afford a vet. This puppy has only been in the family for a week, or maybe a bit longer. How did they plan on getting the 3 sets of shots the puppy will need starting at around 7 weeks of age (I doubt this pup has even had the first set of shots), and then every 3-4 weeks after. Then the spay or neuter at 6 months. The first year, if the dog is healthy, is the most expensive, but only a week later it's already "we can't afford the vet". :(

    This puppy should already have been to the vet for shots. Now it's sick and it's the same old "we can't afford the vet". Then why the hell did you get a dog?

    This puppy deserves the best care it can get. If you can't afford to give it that care then give it to someone that can and will.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 08:41 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    OK so I am sorry I worded the thing wrong first she started acting odd last night when I said something about money I mentioned this minute I have been on the phone with the vet she goes in tomorrow when I get paid. I was just trying to find a little help to make her comfy till then I have other dogs that are health and have all there shots I'm am sorry I worded it wrong so be fore you people go crazy but thank you I'm glad I did not to depend on any of you for help thank God my vet was there so screw all of you and yourself rituesness
  • Jun 27, 2012, 08:47 PM
    Wondergirl
    Self-righteousness??

    "we have no money to take her to the vet right now."
  • Jun 27, 2012, 09:03 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    I posted the? So I can get advice before I got paid Im worried about her and was wondering if someone could have helped me before I had money to take her to the vet but instead I got people being rude and mean I would have worded it better but this is my first time using ask.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 09:08 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maryknoopmyers View Post
    I posted the? so I can get advice before I got paid Im worried about her and was wondering if someone could of helped me before I had money to take her to the vet but instead I got people being rude and mean I would of worded it better but this is my first time using ask.

    It would have helped if you would have told us the ENTIRE situation and not just say you have a sick pup but no money to take him to the vet. You posted the "full story" only after members got upset.

    Every day we read questions exactly like yours about dogs and cats and hamsters and guinea pig -- the owner buys the animal at a pet store and then has no money for medical needs, so the animal suffers and dies. The other day an owner left her guinea pig unprotected out in the rain for two days and then wondered why it was dying. We are here trying to help the animals, not for uncaring owners. If you care, more power to you!
  • Jun 27, 2012, 09:20 PM
    Alty
    If you had told us that you were planning on going to the vet when you got paid, our responses would have been different.

    That's not what you posted.

    You posted;

    Quote:

    We got a 9 week old puppy from a friend maybe a week ago she had worms so we gave her deworming Med.Saturday she threw up Tuesday and won't eat since Tuesday she will drink but she only sleeps and we have no money to take her to the vet right now..... what can I do?
    We can only go by what you posted. Self righteous? No. We care about your dog. That's all. If you can't accept that, then I'll say to you what you said to us;

    Quote:

    so screw all of u
    Don't expect an apology. We base our advice on what you post. Don't give all the info, and you get what you get. My only concern is for your dog, I couldn't care less about you and your attitude.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 09:24 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    OK what can I do for her tonight?
  • Jun 27, 2012, 09:32 PM
    Alty
    Is she peeing and pooing?

    Try giving her chicken and rice. It's a safe food alternative, and most dogs won't be able to resist it. It will get something into her tummy.

    Is she vomiting? Diarrhea?

    You said she is drinking. How much?
  • Jun 27, 2012, 09:50 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    She is peeing and pooping she Won't take chicken and every time she gets up about 2 hours she drinks just a little then goes back to sleep just got off the phone with the emergency vet they told us to give a little pancake syrup on her tongue for a boSt Oh and yes vomit and diarrhea
  • Jun 27, 2012, 10:01 PM
    Alty
    Have you checked her gums? Check for dehydration. If she has diarrhea and vomiting, then even drinking a lot won't help.

    I would highly suggest getting pedialyte, give that until you see the vet tomorrow, first thing tomorrow. Pedialyte is used to prevent dehydration in infants, and is perfectly safe for dogs.

    The main concern is parvo, especially in a pup this age.

    The pancake syrup is a good suggestion, and can boost her up, but right now she needs the hydration more than anything.

    Please keep us posted, and I wish you the best of luck. But vet tomorrow first thing. If this is parvo, the sooner you seek treatment, the higher the odds of survival.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 10:13 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    OK thank you I will let you know how the vet goes
  • Jun 27, 2012, 10:19 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maryknoopmyers View Post
    OK thank you I will let you know how the vet goes

    Please let me know. I do hope everything works out.

    I'm sorry if I was harsh, but if you read the other posts in the dog forum, most people come here expecting us to diagnose and treat their dog. We simply can't do that. Not even a vet can give a diagnosis online. It's not possible. I've been here for 4 years. After a while you get a bit jaded.

    I do understand not having a lot of money, and vets are not cheap. But, if your dog is very ill, not eating, vomiting, diarrhea, then the vet really is your only option. I've been in this position, and I begged, borrowed, and sold things in order to get my pets the care they needed.

    I'm glad you came back, and I'm glad that you listened. I hope you don't think I was being mean just to be mean. I love all animals, and their well being is my only concern, but I did lie. I care about the owners as well, and I hope that everything works out for you and your puppy.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    Thank you.
  • Jun 27, 2012, 10:56 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maryknoopmyers View Post
    OK so I am sorry I worded the thing wrong first she started acting odd last night when I said something about money I mentioned this minute I have been on the phone with the vet she goes in tomorrow when I get paid. I was just trying to find a little help to make her comfy till then I have other dogs that r health and have all there shots I'm am sorry I worded it wrong so be fore u people go crazy but thank u I'm glad I did not to depend on any of u for help thank God my vet was there so screw all of u and ur self rituesness


    I judge by what is written, not what's in your heart.

    I can't read your mind or intentions. The whole "screw you" comment is unnecessary.

    I'm glad she got sick 2 days before you got paid and not 7.
  • Jun 28, 2012, 09:22 AM
    MelanieRay
    Please let me know how your trip to the vet went. Me and my side of the road pup went through something similar except the worm part. It turned out OK for us,I hope it does for you as well.
  • Jun 28, 2012, 02:08 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    Our visit to the vet... they treating her as if she has parvo she is on fluid every 8 12 hours she's on antibodies and something for her swelling she got two shots one really had her yelping we are going to mix chic
  • Jun 28, 2012, 02:13 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Does your friend have the rest of the litter?

    Do you have money for her continuing care? Parvo can be expensive!
  • Jun 28, 2012, 03:20 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maryknoopmyers View Post
    Our visit to the vet... they treating her as if she has parvo she is on fluid every 8 12 hours she's on antibodies and something for her swelling she got two shots one really had her yelping we are going to mix chic

    What tests did they do? Parvo cannot be diagnoses on sight alone, or symptoms.

    Is she at the vet clinic, or at home with you?
  • Jun 28, 2012, 03:58 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    What tests did they do? Parvo cannot be diagnoses on sight alone, or symptoms.

    Is she at the vet clinic, or at home with you?

    I wonder if the worming medicine sort of pushed the puppy's health over the edge? Any medication when Parvo is suspected is not recommended.

    I'm not blaming - I'm just wondering how the previous owner "presented" the puppy's health - ?
  • Jun 28, 2012, 03:59 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I wonder if the worming medicine sort of pushed the puppy's health over the edge? Any medication when Parvo is suspected is not recommended.

    I'm not blaming - I'm just wondering how the previous owner "presented" the puppy's health - ?

    That is a huge concern. I do hope the OP told the vet that the dog had recently been given de-worming meds. That would be very important information for the vet to know when diagnosing and treating the pup.
  • Jun 28, 2012, 04:08 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    That is a huge concern. I do hope the OP told the vet that the dog had recently been given de-worming meds. That would be very important information for the vet to know when diagnosing and treating the pup.


    I just posted that Gretchen has an ear infection and the Doctor would NOT give her her annual shots. She doesn't have a fever.

    There was a case in downstate NY where people bought the wormer at a "everything for a buck" or whatever they are called store - and the medication killed the puppy. As I recall it had something toxic in it, made in China.

    And, of course, imported into and sold in the US.

    (My puppy says hello to your puppy. We are leading parallel lives.)
  • Jun 28, 2012, 04:24 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    (My puppy says hello to your puppy. We are leading parallel lives.)
    If only you were closer, our puppies could be playing together. I would warn you that our Rascal is well named. He really is a little Rascal, but getting bigger every day. He's bigger than Chewy (our beagle) now. Much to Chewy's dismay. :)
  • Jun 29, 2012, 07:42 PM
    maryknoopmyers
    She is doing a lot better she's eating and more active now we think she will be OK.
  • Jun 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maryknoopmyers View Post
    She is doing a lot better she's eating and more active now we think she will be OK.

    She was diagnosed with parvo yesterday but is fine today?

    Something doesn't add up here.
  • Jun 29, 2012, 11:48 PM
    LadySam
    I agree something doesn't quite add up.
    OP says she is on something for her swelling----what part of the puppy is swollen?
    And I don't see that an "actual" diagnosis is mentioned they're treating "as if" the pup has parvo, leaving me to wonder exactly what diagnostics were done.
    The shot that had her yelping was likely cerenia (my best guess, because of the nausea) or an antibiotic injection.
    To the OP-rehydrating can often times produce a rebound effect of feeling suddenly much better and then waning again so watch for any signs that the pup begins to feel poorly again and keep up with giving the pedialyte.
    There seem to be a lot of details missing here, however I do hope your pup continues to do well and gets better.
  • Jun 30, 2012, 05:54 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Unfortunately - because a lot of time was spent on this thread - I believe none of this. Rather than continuing to post information which doesn't make sense I would think OP would just walk away - but apparently not.

    Sorry - senses are tingling and have been (as you know).

    Diagnosis is questionable, puppy eating and feeling well the next day. Sorry, I'm not buying it.

    Hopefully OP will come back and prove me wrong.

    I doubt it.
  • Jun 30, 2012, 06:42 AM
    LadySam
    I agree, diagnosis is questionable at best.
    Not so sure about this one myself and I am almost always willing to give the benefit of the doubt.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 08:18 PM
    Miss Lala
    WOW who are you people?? One of you said "I only JUDGE by your words" Who are you to place Judgment on ANYONE? This person came on this page asking for HELP... So OK... you stated she needed to take her pup to the Vet.. That was good advice but when you started BADGERING her you made me sick!! Im sure someone had this happen to their dog & could give her advice on what to do. Its bad enough that her pup was sick & instead of getting help she gets BASHED... WOW.. My heart goes out to the pups owner.. I know you love your dog or you wouldn't have reached out for help. I hope your dog gets well & Im sorry these people were so mean to you. You are a good person cause even when they jumped all over you in LEFT field... you still tried to engage with them... better you than me cause I would have come back in a dif way!! Good Luck!! GOD bless!!
  • Jan 4, 2013, 08:30 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Miss Lala View Post
    WOW who are you people??? One of you said "I only JUDGE by your words" Who are you to place Judgment on ANYONE ?? This person came on this page asking for HELP...So ok...you stated she needed to take her pup to the Vet..That was good advice but when you started BADGERING her you made me sick !!!! Im sure someone had this happen to their dog & could give her advice on what to do. Its bad enough that her pup was sick & instead of getting help she gets BASHED...WOW..My heart goes out to the pups owner..I know you love your dog or you wouldnt have reached out for help. I hope your dog gets well & Im sorry these people were so mean to you. You are a good person cause even when they jumped all over you in LEFT field ...you still tried to engage with them...better you than me cause I would have come back in a dif way !!! Good Luck !!! GOD bless !!!

    You know what makes me sick? People that get a dog when they have no way at all to take care of it when it gets sick. This owner had the pup for a week. A 9 week old pup. A young puppy needs 3 sets of shots in the first year, but the owner can't even afford to take it to the vet when it's possibly dying?

    No, there is no advice anyone could have given other than to go to the vet. We can't diagnose over the internet. The only answer was to go to the vet, and frankly I'm sick and tired of people getting animals they can't afford to take care of.

    My heart goes out to the puppy, because he had no choice in this. He relies on the person that brought him into their home, to take care of his needs. He has no option. The owner does.

    If you can't afford a vet, don't get a pet. I won't sugar coat it, it is what it is, and it's about farking time everyone realized it. Enough animals die each year, all because of irresponsible owners. Enough is enough.

    God bless the poor dog that probably died because of an irresponsible owner. :(
  • Jan 4, 2013, 08:44 PM
    Miss Lala
    What's better? A person getting a dog with no $$ (money) to take it to the Vet. OR... A dog being KILLED in a shelter due to "over crowding" Hummm... I think a chance at life is waaaaaay better than being killed!! Now I know this post wasn't about shelters and such, but IM just saying??
  • Jan 4, 2013, 09:04 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Miss Lala View Post
    Whats better? A person getting a dog with no $$ (money) to take it to the Vet. OR... A dog being KILLED in a shelter due to "over crowding" Hummm... I think a chance at life is waaaaaay better than being killed !!! Now I know this post wasnt about shelters and such,,but IM just saying ?????

    This was a 9 week old puppy. Puppies very rarely die in shelters, they're the first ones adopted. Also, where did you read that this was a rescue?

    Frankly, I'd rather be humanely euthanized then die a slow painful death. Have you ever seen a dog die from parvo? Being killed in a shelter is much preferable to dying from parvo because your owner can't afford vet care, even though she just purchased you.

    I volunteered in a shelter for years. Don't try to play the shelter card with me. I have more rescues then you've likely ever seen in one room.

    This isn't about rescuing a shelter dog, it's about doing what you promised to do when taking on a pet, which is to provide it with the required health care, food, shots, etc. If your dog is dying, in pain, then you go to the vet.

    This is not an opinion thread. The vet is the only answer, and if you need to be berated so that you'll do the right thing, so be it. I really could care less about the human beings that come here looking for a magic cure that doesn't exist. My only concern is the pets that don't have a choice or a voice.

    When I say "you" I mean anyone that comes here looking for a diagnosis instead of doing the right thing and going to the vet.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 09:14 PM
    Lucky098
    LoL Did Miss LaLa seriously say that a pet is better off living with a person who cannot afford any type of veterinary care? Seriously??

    Dying from parvo is said to be the worse belly ache you would ever experience. The intestines are sloughing the lining and your body cannot absorb any nutrients. Anything that you eat or drink comes up automatically and if you don't vomit, you get to experience the worse case of diarrhea possible.

    I agree with Alty.. if you were given two choices of being placed in a home with a person who hasn't any money while you are severely SICK.. or be put to sleep in a shelter.. I would take the shelter.

    Pets are expensive. They cost you money.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 09:21 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lucky098 View Post
    LoL Did Miss LaLa seriously say that a pet is better off living with a person who cannot afford any type of veterinary care?? Seriously????

    Dying from parvo is said to be the worse belly ache you would ever experience. The intestines are sloughing the lining and your body cannot absorb any nutrients. Anything that you eat or drink comes up automatically and if you don't vomit, you get to experience the worse case of diarrhea possible.

    I agree with Alty..if you were given two choices of being placed in a home with a person who hasn't any money while you are severely SICK.. or be put to sleep in a shelter.. I would take the shelter.

    Pets are expensive. They cost you money.

    She seriously did say it.

    I find it funny that we're the mean ones because we care about the dog and tell the OP to go to the vet.

    We're horrible human beings, we should be given 100 lashes with a wet noodle. We actually care about the dog, and expect the human that adopted it to do the right thing. How dare we?
  • Jan 4, 2013, 09:43 PM
    Lucky098
    I think its sad. I know people who get puppies or dogs or cats, etc. have the best intentions.. but the hard reality is.. you need to have some type of back up plan in case a pet does get sick.

    What's really opened my eyes with the whole vet care cost thing.. is if you go into the vet and just have them look at the pet.. the huge cost everyone is dreading might not be that big... some vets will work with you, some won't.. But most of them will work with your budget.

    Parvo is a scary thing. And if its bad enough, puppies typically do die. If the owners catch it early enough, treatments are given that can be done at home cutting the huge expense of hospitalization. But people avoid the vet clinic and end up with a dead dog or a huge @$$ bill.

    I wish people would understand that pets cost money. Vaccines, even if you do them yourself, cost money.. spaying and neutering costs money (look up low cost spay/neuter clinics! They exist!) and god-forbid if the pet gets sick.. They just simply cost money. If you can hardly afford yourself, than Don't get a pet.. or have kids...
  • Jan 4, 2013, 10:15 PM
    Alty
    Oh I hear you.

    I can't say that we're rich, we're not by any means. We make ends meet, but there's really not a lot of extra left over. But, our pets are cared for. No, Chewy and Rascal are not yet neutered, but that's happening very soon, sooner then they'd like. But, if any of my pets are sick, it's to the vet we go, even if I have to beg, borrow, sell my car. Whatever it takes.

    Both Rascal and Chewy are up to date on their shots. All the bunnies except Oreo, are fixed. Oreo isn't because she's too old. She was found wandering the streets. I took her in to get fixed, but was advised against doing the surgery because of her age. But she's the only one out of 4 that isn't fixed. Marty the bird gets the care she needs, and if she were sick, she'd be going to the vet. The fish, I can't say I'd be going to the vet if one of them became ill. Heck, how would you even go about doing that? ;)

    The thing is, I took these animals on, it was my choice, not theirs. It's my responsibility to look after them, and it takes more than giving a cup of food and some water ever day.
  • Jan 5, 2013, 08:52 AM
    Miss Lala
    OK... this is the last post I will make on this subject... In shelters all over the USA dogs & cats are KILLED due to over population( reality )... thank God there are many "No Kill Shelters" The point I was trying to make was... A Dog has a better chance to LIVE if they have a person that LOVES them... feeds & waters them Daily.. Vs going to a kill Shelter... That is my feeling & you had the nerve to Judge ME on how I Feel?? All of you High on the horse judgmental folks need a LIFE!! ( I am talking about a well at the time pup)

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