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  • Apr 14, 2009, 10:05 AM
    mertkz
    Lab/Schnauzer breeder
    Hi,
    I live in Michigan and I am searching for a lab/schnauzer mix breeder. I would also adopt a rescue of this mix pup, but my guess is that will be hard to come by. Anyone know of contacts in the surrounding areas of MI for this dog?
    I noticed on one posted questions someone got their dog from the Chicago area?
    Thank you!
  • Apr 14, 2009, 10:15 AM
    shazamataz
    The only way to obtain this particular mix would be to find one in a shelter.
    Registered breeders are not allowed to breed cross-bred dogs.
    They have more genetic problems than pure-bred dogs and are bred by backyard breeders.
    I know they make up cute little names for cross-breds like schnoodles or maltypoos etc but these dogs more often than not have underlying problems.
    I'm sorry for the rant but people who intentionally breed mixed breed dogs make me so angry!
  • Jun 19, 2009, 08:12 AM
    GJbean
    I live near you and would LOVE to have a schnauzer / lab mix puppy or two! So maybe a breeder will read these posts and respond.

    IGNORE the previous poster. There are virtually NO schnauzers in rescues.

    We have allergy issues in our home (yes we have tried solutions and they did not work). We want the lab/schnauzer mix for allergies and for other reasons, which we do not have to explain.

    Soooo, if there is a breeder out there, looks like you have a couple of customers.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 10:41 AM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GJbean View Post

    Soooo, if there is a breeder out there, looks like you have a couple of customers.

    Again, PLEASE do not encourage backyard breeders buy advertising that you want to buy one of their problem ridden mutts...

    Have either of you checked your local shelter for dogs?
    There are literally hundreds to choose from and you might save a special little guy from being put to death.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 11:00 AM
    Just Dahlia

    Labs shed, that wouldn't be good for allergies.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 11:06 AM
    Just Dahlia
    POSTED by Gjbean[
    "IGNORE the previous poster. There are virtually NO schnauzers in rescues."


    It's really not nice to advise people to ignore others:(

    Everyone has their own opinion and can make up there own mind, that's why they are here for answers.

    And Shaz is very knowledgeable, she knows what she is talking about.:)
  • Jun 19, 2009, 11:24 AM
    Sumewhereintime

    SOUNDS LIKE PREACHING TO ME!! Not an answer, just an opinion.

    If you want to POST A SEPARATE subject then do it.

    The question here is about where to find a lab schnauzer mix. Last I checked we were still in America.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 11:26 AM
    ZoeMarie

    Why don't you go to the animal rescue site and do a search?
  • Jun 19, 2009, 11:33 AM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    POSTED by Gjbean[
    "IGNORE the previous poster. There are virtually NO schnauzers in rescues."


    It's really not nice to advise people to ignore others:(

    Everyone has their own opinion and can make up there own mind, that's why they are here for answers.

    And Shaz is very knowledgable, she knows what she is talking about.:)

    Thank you Dahlia :)
    I tried to give you a greenie but I had to spread the rep.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I personally refuse to advise people to buy from backyard breeders.
    I have a sticky about backyard breeders and puppy mills at the top of the 'dogs' page. You would do well to read it 'somewhereintime'
  • Jun 19, 2009, 11:53 AM
    Just Dahlia
    The question here is about where to find a lab schnauzer mix. Last I checked we were still in America.[/quote]


    Actually a lot of people on this sight are not in America:rolleyes:
  • Jun 19, 2009, 11:57 AM
    Just Dahlia
    Shaz, I can't find your 'Sticky':confused:
  • Jun 19, 2009, 12:16 PM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    Shaz, I can't find your 'Sticky':confused:

    It's in the "useful picees from out members" thread...

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/v...rs-318391.html
    Go to the link I posted in that thread, it is a great site explaining how bad backyard breeders are.

    On a side note, I have another backyard breed lover in another thread... I don't know why I bother sometimes...
    They deserve to have an unhealthy mutt.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:17 PM
    Sariss

    You will be unable to find a breeder that breeds this mix, unless it has become a 'designer mutt'. And if it has, I would steer clear of these so called breeders, as they will charge an arm and a leg for a dog that you could rescue from a shelter.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:27 PM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sariss View Post
    You will be unable to find a breeder that breeds this mix, unless it has become a 'designer mutt'. And if it has, I would steer clear of these so called breeders, as they will charge an arm and a leg for a dog that you could rescue from a shelter.

    Yes, I went into our local pet store the other day and they were selling "Spoodles" (My poor beloved breed has been defiled) the cross-breds were selling for $500... yes $500 more than the purebreds...
    They wanted $1500 for these mutts!
    I was horrified, we charge less than that for our purbred Mini Poodles! And I am sure they don't health test like we do!
    Not only that but they are claiming they are "hypoallergenic!"
    What a crock!
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:34 PM
    Just Dahlia
    What's a Spoodle?:confused:
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:40 PM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    What's a Spoodle?:confused:

    Spaniel x Poodle...
    The particular "Spaniel" varies depending on the breeder... usually a Cocker Spaniel :rolleyes:
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:42 PM
    Sariss

    Here, those are called Cockapoos. :P
    Then there's Labradoodles, Golden Doodles, Schnoodles, Chi-Poos, Yorkie-Poos, MaltiPoos... ugh
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:45 PM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sariss View Post
    Here, those are called Cockapoos. :P
    Then theres Labradoodles, Golden Doodles, Schnoodles, Chi-Poos, Yorkie-Poos, MaltiPoos... ugh

    Ahhh yes... sorry! Not sure what spaniel it is then!
    It's awful, just because my breed has "poo" in the name they think it's funny to mix them :(

    There were two names that made me chuckle though...
    Havanese x Poodle... "Have a poo"
    Borzoi x Afghan... "Bogan" (for those who don't know 'bogan' is Australian slang for basically someone from a trailor park!)

    After the initial chuckle wore off though I was sad again...
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:47 PM
    Just Dahlia
    My neighbor has a Labradoodle. It looks like a giant Schnauzer:eek:
    But it is very friendly:)
  • Jun 19, 2009, 01:49 PM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just Dahlia View Post
    My neighbor has a Labradoodle. It looks like a giant Schnauzer:eek:
    But it is very friendly:)

    There is a "breeder" here for Labradoodles, they even advertise on television...
    Really most of them just look like standard poodles without their faces clipped.

    Only about half of the puppies end up being non-allergy (just a random fact)
  • Jun 19, 2009, 02:06 PM
    Catsmine
    It's worse than you think, Shazzy

    American Canine Hybrid Club, ACHC
  • Jun 19, 2009, 02:48 PM
    Just Dahlia
    That's amazing! but the Poochon and the Bolonoodle were really cute:eek:

    You shouldn't be encouraging people with cute puppy pictures, it's just wrong.;):D
  • Jun 19, 2009, 02:57 PM
    Catsmine
    The puppies are adorable. DUH! All puppies are. It's these parasites trying to make a buck off these cute little animals later suffering that chaps my shorts.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 06:21 PM
    Sumewhereintime

    Guess this makes you all feel very important. So glad for you.

    Still looking for that schnauzer/lab mix. If you all don't shut up, I might breed my own.

    AND WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU RESCUED A DOG?? Yea I thought so. A dog becomes a part of the family.

    For the record, you PREACHERS, we are volunteers in a dog rescue. We will be happy to take the right dog from a rescue, but we have not found one.

    Get up off the couch and do something instead of judging other people and telling them the way you think they should act. Clean up your own act first.

    Oh, got a line on a breeder. Thanks for all of the activity.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 07:02 PM
    Sariss

    Good on you. :)
    I may not volunteer at a dog rescue, but as a Vet Tech I spent much of my time during my schooling at high-kill shelters, and that made me what I am when it comes to breeders. I did not enjoy euthanizing litters of 8 week old puppies every week.
    And all my dogs (and cats) have been rescues, thank you very much.

    And which rescue do you volunteer for? I'd love to see some of the dogs they have, and to see if all of the people who volunteer have the same attitude as you.

    I'm also interested in the breeder you found (which is odd since at the beginning of your post you acted as if you had not found one yet, but by the end, you had). What kind of prices are there for their dogs?
  • Jun 19, 2009, 07:26 PM
    Sariss

    In response to the OP, here is a cute boy I found. He's about two and a half hours out of Chicago.

    Adopt a Black Labrador Retriever: Dalton: Petfinder
  • Jun 19, 2009, 07:36 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sumewhereintime View Post
    Guess this makes you all feel very important. So glad for you.

    Still looking for that schnauzer/lab mix. If you all don't shut up, I might breed my own.

    AND WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU RESCUED A DOG??? yea I thought so. A dog becomes a part of the family.

    For the record, you PREACHERS, we are volunteers in a dog rescue. We will be happy to take the right dog from a rescue, but we have not found one.

    get up off the couch and do something instead of judging other people and telling them the way you think they should act. Clean up your own act first.

    oh, got a line on a breeder. thanks for all of the activity.

    I've been rescuing dogs since 1977. My family has been breeding pure bred animals since 1960. Right now we have a cocker mix from the pound and are looking at a Rottie.
    I truly hope you and your "breeder" enjoy the same treatment that the "breeder" Michael Vick got.
  • Jun 19, 2009, 08:28 PM
    teachnk

    Look at this cutie in Indiana! What a handful. I love how honest and responsible this rescue foster home is - otherwise this crazy pup might be bouncing from home to rescue... or worse.
    Adopt a Schnauzer: Jack - S.IN.: Petfinder

    Sumewhereintime, I know you are obviously very young - but you need to understand that loving animals means defending them and fighting the irresponsible breeding that contributes to so many deaths and health issues. I find it difficult to believe you work with a rescue and haven't found the "right" dog. Seriously? You want someone to breed a mutt for you... so that those rescue dogs can take up foster homes while other dogs die in shelters. I have a rescue mutt now, and I even had a "pet store" full bred dog, that I unknowingly fell in love with 17 years ago - when I was way too young to know better. With time, as you mature, you'll begin to understand why some are so passionate, even if you don't like the "tone".
  • Jun 19, 2009, 09:58 PM
    simoneaugie

    Szit-poos are the best named mixed breed. I'd like to see a Chi-dane sometime... Would it have health problems?
  • Jun 19, 2009, 10:50 PM
    shazamataz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by simoneaugie View Post
    Szit-poos are the best named mixed breed. I'd like to see a Chi-dane sometime...Would it have health problems?

    I'm not sure to be honest...
    The mother would have to be the Great Dane obviously.
    I looked it up a while ago and found this very strange looking puppy... I don't know if it was real or not.

    Catsmine - there's a whole Hybrid club?? Good lord.
    Last dog we adopted was a fair while ago I admit, but we have adopted several dogs before (A terrier mix and a great dane)
    I adopted a rabbit from the pound earlier this year though.
  • Jun 20, 2009, 06:44 AM
    Sumewhereintime

    The land of the free and the home of the brave.. . when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.

    We have the right to make decisions for our family. We have the right to buy the dog we want from the breeder we want.

    There is nothing ethically wrong with that. We don't have to rescue a dog from a pound if it is not the right dog for our human family.

    If that is where you want to get your pets FINE FOR YOU. You have absolutely no right to try to DEMAND what my family does. Are you getting any of this?

    IF we could find a schnauzer/lab mix we would adopt one.

    If not, we will buy one.

    By the way, try to help some humans too. If this is how you respond to humans, I can only imagine how you respond to dogs.
  • Jun 20, 2009, 07:17 AM
    shazamataz

    I don't live in the "land of the free and home of the brave"

    Yes you are entitled to your opinion.

    Yes you are entitled to buy a dog where you choose.

    But no, it is not ethically correct to buy from a backyard breeder, no matter how much you tell yourself that.
  • Jun 20, 2009, 04:16 PM
    Sariss

    Sorry, Shaz and I both don't live in America. :)

    I'm still kind of interested in the answers to those questions you skirted past, though..

    And I respond fine to humans, when they aren't having a hissy fit thousands of miles away in front of a computer.
  • Jun 20, 2009, 04:40 PM
    jenniepepsi

    You know summer, if you don't want the advise from people
    Quote:

    when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.
    Then I suggest, you Don't COME TO AN ONLINE BOARD.

    :) thank you :) respectfully and lovingly yours

    Jennie
  • Jun 20, 2009, 04:44 PM
    JoeCanada76

    I do not live in United states either.
    Good advice Jenniepepsi.
  • Jun 21, 2009, 05:46 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sumewhereintime View Post
    The land of the free and the home of the brave . . .when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.

    We have the right to make decisions for our family. We have the right to buy the dog we want from the breeder we want.

    There is nothing ethically wrong with that. We don't have to rescue a dog from a pound if it is not the right dog for our human family.

    If that is where you want to get your pets FINE FOR YOU. You have absolutely no right to try to DEMAND what my family does. Are you getting any of this?

    IF we could find a schnauzer/lab mix we would adopt one.

    If not, we will buy one.

    By the way, try to help some humans too. If this is how you respond to humans, I can only imagine how you respond to dogs.

    Get off your high horse, this is a world wide site on the world wide web, it's not just for Americans.

    You do have the right to get a dog that fits your family, what we're saying is that no legitimate breeder breeds mixes, so you won't find a legit breeder for a mixed breed. The people who breed those dogs are either puppymill owners or backyard breeders, both are in it only for the money and they don't give a damn about the dogs in their care.

    If you want a dog that may have genetic defects or other health problems then go for it, we can't stop you from supporting people that are responsible for the deaths of millions of dogs each year, and yes, that's in America!

    Just so you know, I have 3 dogs, one from an oops pregnancy of a friend of ours (he did everything right to prevent his female from become pregnant but it didn't work), one from the shelter (he was abused, fearful and on death row, he's been a member of our family for almost 7 years now) and one purebred from a legitimate breeder.

    I also have 4 bunnies, all except 1 are rescues.

    I volunteered at the human society for a long time, but my heart couldn't take it anymore and I was running out of room for all the animals I brought home with me.

    So preach to someone you have a right to preach to, but don't preach to the wonderful people on this site, you don't even begin to compare to them.
  • Jun 22, 2009, 02:24 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sumewhereintime View Post
    The land of the free and the home of the brave . . .when they are sitting in front of a computer and not a person.

    We have the right to make decisions for our family. We have the right to buy the dog we want from the breeder we want.

    There is nothing ethically wrong with that. We don't have to rescue a dog from a pound if it is not the right dog for our human family.

    If that is where you want to get your pets FINE FOR YOU. You have absolutely no right to try to DEMAND what my family does. Are you getting any of this?

    IF we could find a schnauzer/lab mix we would adopt one.

    If not, we will buy one.

    By the way, try to help some humans too. If this is how you respond to humans, I can only imagine how you respond to dogs.



    What lives under a bridge?
  • Jun 22, 2009, 02:58 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    What lives under a bridge?

    I know, I know.

    A troll. :)

    What do I win?
  • Jun 22, 2009, 03:21 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I know, I know.

    A troll. :)

    What do I win?

    The pleasure of editing the video.
  • Jun 22, 2009, 03:46 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    The pleasure of editing the video.

    Isn't that a lose?

    How is that a win?

    What video?

    Okay, staying away all weekend means a lot of confusion when I get back. :eek:

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