Alty loves big hugs, right back at you CM. :)
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Alty loves big hugs, right back at you CM. :)
Haha~~YIPPY!! Susan gives you a big hug, too! She gives everyone in this post a BIG HUG!!
Big hug to Susan too. :)
This thread certainly has taken on a life of it's own, hasn't it? Every time I think it's done, someone else has to add an opinion. That's all good, just wish that previous posts were read before they post. Oh well, what can you do? Just keep on keeping on. :)
Yes their can be medical reasons for declawing a cat. I take offense to your reply! It was rude and uncalled for, "thankyou kindly." I suggest you read what Alty had to say, many times. I have had many dogs in my life, and the majority of them came from shelters. I have volunteered for many yrs for the SPCA, and Humane Society. I also do fund raising for a local shelter.Quote:
Originally Posted by linnealand
I would do anything for my animals!. and I mean anything, including getting in between my dog and a large vicious breed a month ago, when my dog was being attacked! I would have taken the next bite before I would have let my babe get more. I had to rush her into the emergency wkd after hrs vet for emergency surgery for her wounds, and because she was having seizures! She required 86 stitches and a 3 day vet stay with 24 hr supervision, and I didn't sleep a wink, worrying! She is not the same dog as she once was, and I refuse to leave her at home alone, until I can be sure she is back to normal. I have over a thousand dollars in vet bills, and the owner of the other dog is refusing to take any responsibility! The point is that I DON'T CARE!. as long as my dog is safe and healthy.
So please DON'T EVER accuse me of advocating ill treatment of an animal!
Also, it is not my fault that you decided to edit your post, even if you did it seconds later, although, I have my own thoughts on why you did that. I don't sit around on one thread just waiting to see if someone has revised their post.
Don't worry Starby, those that know you know how much you love animals, those that don't will learn. We know what kind of person you are, and we know how much you love all animals, that is very evident in all of your posts. You are a wonderful kind caring person, I'm not the only one who knows it. :)
Jeesh, sappy lovey dovey Alty today. Group hug all, come on! :)
Awwww, shucks! :) Thank you dear Alty! Right back at you! I will dingle you soon okay? (Ohhh, that sounded dirty didn't it!. HAHAHAHA!) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Altenweg
It did sound a bit dirty. Just to clarify, Starby is calling Alty in a minute, on the phone, for chitchat, that's all! ;)
OK, someone needs to break up this mushy mushy stuff!
I just want to add, some of us answer in a direct, matter of fact way, while others take a considerable amount of time, to go over every word, so as to not offend or belittle someone.
I ran across a guy on the radio today, on a show called handel on the law.
Anyone ever heard this guy, he is a HOOT!
A guy called in, and opened his question with "I took my dog to the vet and had him put to sleep", before he could say another word, Bill said "No sir, you did not have your dog put to sleep, you KILLED your dog".
The guy tried to argue, "no, the vet put him to sleep"! Bill says, OK, when is he going to wake up? Don't you know sleep is a temporary condition, you could put your dog to sleep in your lap, and he will wake up"! You killed your dog, you did not put him to sleep"!
"You need to learn how to state things accurately"!
That little exchange, reminded me of some of the back and forth stuff we see here on AMHD.
If you enjoy that type of personality, which I do, you should give a listen to his show sometime. Not only can you hear lots of good legal advice, you get some serious chuckles out of it as well.
CM, did you ever think that one little question, would lead to so much response?
I'm glad your dog won't be losing it's voice anytime soon!!
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Originally Posted by Altenweg
Hold your horses, my friend! I don't know how thoroughly you read my posts, but not one part of anything I wrote went into judging anyone or saying anything personal. I shared my feelings on the subject of de-barking and de-clawing. While there were in fact other people that agreed with position, my post included two personal stories and unique ways of expressing why I hold my opinion. Certainly I can't be expected to only say with whom I agree or disagree, right? :) plus, how many times do I have to write that I read the previous posts? I'm not really sure why you decided that I didn't. I contributed because I wanted to be helpful and informative, just like everyone else here. I was also very clear in being supportive of and nice to CM. I even said that I would be asking exactly the same thing if I were her. I'm sure you wrote what you wrote with the best intentions, but if ill be totally honest and tell you that I'm slightly confused as to why you have dedicated your entire post to telling me what you think I did wrong, when I didn't actually do the things you said I did. I don't want this to drag on - actually, I think that we are coming from the same place, and we are all advocates to the proper care of dogs (and all animals for that matter). :) granted, you don't know me anymore than I know you, but I can promise you that I don't have a single crumb of angst or personal opposition towards anyone. I'm a very friendly, open person. When I asked starbuck what she meant by de-clawing for medical reasons, I was asking because I really wanted to know what those might be. Perhaps my method of friendly, gentle jostling could have been misinterpreted, but that's not judging either. I was thinking that no cat is going to have 20 badly infected, ingrown toenails, and I was giving examples of reasons cats do get de-clawed. Anyway, thank you for giving some examples that make sense. I can't believe that I've felt the need to defend myself - it's rather silly. I really enjoy this forum, and I'm happy to be here and participate. I look forward to seeing you and your highly defended buddies in future posts. Just remember that I'm not the enemy. I'm a nice, friendly and open animal adoring addition to the site.
Progunr, that is too funny! I wonder if I could get that show on my online satellite radio? Yes it is funny how one simple question can lead to an ocean of confusion! ;)
Actually, now that I've seen just how many things you have had to say about me, not one part of which is justifiable, I'm beginning to think that you're just a little too interested in stirring the poop for no reason. You've actually used a whole page up with this nonsense. I'm beginning to take some offense to it, to be totally frank. Why don't you try focusing on the subject this thread was meant to discuss rather than putting jabbing little attacks where they don't belong? I know one thing for sure - I didn't and don't deserve being talked about in the way you've done. This is supposed to be a place of learning, not sophomorism.
[QUOTE=linnealand](actually, you must have gotten to my post before I got the chance to edit the rest of my response, which was literally just seconds after it went up. I didn't intend for it to go out unfinished. i always read the preceding posts, thank you kindly. Just the same, in asking for information, a fair response easily includes a moral stand on this particular issue, which is exactly what I had written in the part you quoted.)
Just out of curiosity, what exactly would you consider to be a medical reason for declawing a cat? End-of-your-fingers-cancer? or a really expensive new couch and a persian rug...[/QUOTE]
The bolded parts are what I had a problem with. I wasn't mean in my post, I never once said you weren't a nice person or that you didn't have a right to express your point of view, you do, but reiterating what others have already said isn't productive or helpful, I am also guilty of doing it, but to insult Starby when she called you on it wasn't okay.
My main reason to post was to let you know what kind of people you are dealing with, and insinuating that Starby would declaw a cat because of a new couch or a persian rug was insulting. Sorry if you took it the wrong way, I do apologize, I certainly never meant to imply that you weren't a nice person. I was letting you know who we are and what we stand for, you'll figure that out the longer you are on this site, and I welcome your opinion, as I welcome everyone else's opinion. I may not always agree, I'm not always agreed with either.
Anyway, let's let it go, I never meant for this to turn in to a fight. Let's just drop it, obviously I misread your post and you misread mine, done, okay?
I look forward to seeing you on other threads, no hard feelings on my part.
Things can be subject to misinterpretation. It really did sound as if you were being insulting towards me, and that is why my friends jumped in. If anything was misinterpreted in anything you said, I appologize.Quote:
Originally Posted by linnealand
I also am a very kind and fair person. I only commented on your post to kindly point out to read the other posts. The reason I thought you didn't read the other posts was because you thought that debarking was still an option for CM. If I would have known that it was going to start this, I wouldn't have bothered to comment.
I only wrote it because I have been on this site for quite sometime, and I do run across new members on a daily basis, who don't read the date of the post, they don't read the question thouroughly, they don't read previous posts, etc. I was only trying to help you out.
Just one more thing, and this is not meant in a harsh tone either, please try and use punctuation, spaces, and paragraphs. It does make it much easier for us to read.
WOW!
Hey, when I said we need to put an end to the mushy mushy stuff, this is not what I meant!
"Can't we all just get along"?
It is easy to misinterpret things when you can't see a face, or hear a tone of voice.
As we answer, we are actually "speaking" our posts, in our heads.
What we don't realize, is that no one else can "hear" how we "intend" for the words to sound. Here, they are nothing more than black letters on a white background, there is no way to inject the "color" that we may intend for those words to have.
I think you have all settled this one, just wanted to say, maybe the mushy mushy isn't so bad after all.
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Originally Posted by linnealand
I wasn't actually talking about you, although reading back I can see how it might be interpreted that way, once again I do apologize if you took anything I said as an insult to you personally.
I do at times stir the poop, I will admit to that, but I haven't done it on this thread, at least not intentionally. CM and Starby are good friends, I've know them for quite some time, not in person, but on this site.
The reason that we did ask you to read all previous posts was because it didn't sound like you had. Also, it's a good idea to check the date on posts, this one was pretty much considered done, it was a bit surprising to see that someone posted again. CM has made her decision, it's a done deal, and to dredge it all up again wasn't necessary.
Should I have stuck up for Starby, I believe yes, that's what friends do. Anyway, I do apologize if it sounded like I was talking badly about you, not my intention. Having said that, please PM me if you have anything to add, let's not use this thread as a place to argue with each other.
Thank you.
La-la-la-la-la-la... I agree... "Can't we all just get alonggggggggg??"
People understand eachother's points of view and opinions... and mine.
And heck no, I didn't think one question would stir up such a ruckus. Although I should have being as its very controversial. I was prepared to defend myself assuming that other people would assume that it was something I had already planned to do or had already done.
I really would like if a mod or admin came in here and closed this post...
As the OP you can request that CM, although I don't know how to go about it, maybe just email Rick J and request it be closed.
Really? Darn, there are so many things that I don't know...
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Originally Posted by ChihuahuaMomma
Learn something new every day, and when you figure it out tell me. ;)
Maybe this will help:
http://i32.tinypic.com/34pz2ja.jpgSusan loves you (and her voice). She says, "Stop the arguing and start the cuddling!!"
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