We are not going to go to that Vet any longer. Here are the reasons...
1. The Vet diagnosed her wrong
2. Refused to do any other testing to back up what he thought
3. Made me feel like a horrible person I front of my child
4. Praises are ridiculous
5. Some of the staff also gave me crap about not doing the surgery right then while I was checking out

The new Vet clinic we found
1. Vet kind and helpful
2. Staff makes a point to greet your animal and make then feel comfortable
3. Do multiple tests to diagnose
4. Doesn't charge an arm and a leg for treatment
5. While explaining things they make sure that you understand everything completely before they leave you.

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We are not going to go to that Vet any longer. Here are the reasons...
1. The Vet diagnosed her wrong
2. Refused to do any other testing to back up what he thought
3. Made me feel like a horrible person I front of my child
4. Praises are ridiculous
5. Some of the staff also gave me crap about not doing the surgery right then while I was checking out

The new Vet clinic we found
1. Vet kind and helpful
2. Staff makes a point to greet your animal and make then feel comfortable
3. Do multiple tests to diagnose
4. Doesn't charge an arm and a leg for treatment
5. While explaining things they make sure that you understand everything completely before they leave you.

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You're very lucky to have found this new vet. :)

So last night we noticed that Raven has colostrum developing in at least 4 of her nipples. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not since she still would have 18 days left to go. This dog will be the death of me! :(

Also... On a funny note... In live in Ohio and it got seriously cold here last night (37 degrees)... Well last night Raven was making ALL kinds of noises and thumping around. I woke up looked over the bed and here Raven had pushed all her blankets up against my bed and had threw herself around enough that she got one of the blankets over her back to cover her up. She saw me looking for her and she put her head down till just her muzzle was showing. What gave her location away was her huge tail thumping on the floor. Lol she's great.
Today when my husband left for work (I was doing the doggie rotation of morning potty breaks) Raven got REALLY upset that her daddy left without her. She cried as her walked to the truck, whined even louder when her got in it, then growled at him as he was pulling out of the driveway. I looked at her and said "really Raven?" She looked at me, sneezed turned and faced me and then barked at me like she was yelling at me. Poor girl. Now she snuggling in my bed with my daughter who's attempting to put her arm around Ravens tummy.

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Also... On a funny note... In live in Ohio and it got seriously cold here last night (37 degrees)... Well last night Raven was making ALL kinds of noises and thumping around. I woke up looked over the bed and here Raven had pushed all her blankets up against my bed and had threw herself around enough that she got one of the blankets over her back to cover her up. She saw me looking for her and she put her head down till just her muzzle was showing. What gave her location away was her huge tail thumping on the floor. Lol she's great.
Today when my husband left for work (I was doing the doggie rotation of morning potty breaks) Raven got REALLY upset that her daddy left without her. She cried as her walked to the truck, whined even louder when her got in it, then growled at him as he was pulling out of the driveway. I looked at her and said "really Raven?" She looked at me, sneezed turned and faced me and then barked at me like she was yelling at me. Poor girl. Now she snuggling in my bed with my daughter who's attempting to put her arm around Ravens tummy.

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You really should start writing all your Raven stories down, make a book out of it. I usually hate reading long posts, even though I'm known for them, but yours I read. They make me smile. I can picture everything you're talking about as if I were there. Of course it helps that I also have dogs, and some of the things they've done, that's a book in and of itself as well.

Our dog Indy (RIP) once at a leather work glove. We rushed him to the vet, vet said nothing was lodged, it will pass when it's ready. It did, one finger of the glove at a time, all filled with... well, you can guess.

He also at my sons super huge rainbow colored plastic bouncy ball that my parents bought him. That bowel movement was in my parents yard. It looked like Easter, all the pretty colors, mixed with... well, you can guess.

Dogs, they make our lives interesting.

The colostrum, to me, would be a sign that this is not a false pregnancy, but again, a dog going through a false pregnancy will show all the signs of a real one, so I'd still get the x-ray.

Oh my goodness! Lol I prob would have peed my pants watching a dog poo out a glove. Lol
And the Easter egg, oh my, the jokes I would have played on my kids! "Hey kids Easter came early this year!! First one to pick up the egg gets to keep it!!!" Lol When I read that I giggled and my husband said "an iPad can't be funny, why are you laughing?" I told him that I was reading a post and he shook his head and said " you have a sad life, maybe you spend to much time with the dogs. Your easily amused" lol sad, but true. That was almost the highlight of my day.
The highlight was... My daughter and I stayed in bed and cuddled Raven till around 11 and we opened my door to go to the back door to start letting dogs out and there was a bird flying in my house! My pit could have cared less, Raven was scared to death, and the Lab was trying to catch it out of the air! It took me 20 minutes just to shoo the bird out the door!

Please tell me the bird lived. I have two birds. My border collie would definitely eat them if he was ever given the chance. The beagle, he ignores them. He also ignores the rabbits (I have 4) which is odd. He's a beagle, they're bred to hunt rabbits.

Your husband should join the site, trust me, he'll get a laugh or two. He'll also have a moment or two when he'll want to bang his head on a wall while saying "There's no way anyone could be this ignorant". We get a lot of posts that make you want to cry. Thankfully, yours isn't one of them. :)

Your entire family, and I include the dogs, because they're family, all fur babies are, are very lucky to have such a wonderful mom. You truly are an inspiration, and I don't say that lightly. Too many people have posted on this site about breeding their dogs, with absolutely no idea what they're in for, with no regard for the dogs, only for money, and I really wish I could reach through my monitor and slap them.

You truly are a breath of fresh air, and I really hope that there are puppies, and that we get tons and tons of pictures when they're born.

I know I could never breed, I would never be able to give up the pups. I'd keep each and every one. Heck, there was a spider in our house last week. I named it. After that, it became ours. It died. I actually cried. It was a spider!

Yes, I mad sure that the bird lived. It was a red headed wood pecker and at times I thought he was going to kill me! Good thing I'm only 5 foot tall. (Shah don't tell anyone) My husband plays something called Playstation Home on the ps3. It's like Sims but every avi is a real person. I'm to ADD for it. I get bored quickly.
Thank you very much for your kind words. That really meant a lot to me. I posted the same question on another site and the only responses I'm getting are very rude. I may only be 30 but I've been through so much with animals. I've even been dumb enough to stick my whole arm in the back end of a really big cow just to straighten a calves leg out properly so it could be born. (That was awkward lol)
I'm so glad that you decided to add a response to my post. It's been a pleasure chatting with you. ;)

Oh and by the way... When I decided I had enough info on breeding Raven the first words that came from my husband was " really? You think you can handle 2 big dogs and 2 REALLY big dogs? I know you'll end up keeping one, I'm not dumb " lol

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Oh and by the way... When I decided I had enough info on breeding Raven the first words that came from my husband was " really? You think you can handle 2 big dogs and 2 REALLY big dogs? I know you'll end up keeping one, I'm not dumb " lol

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LOL! So you do plan to keep one? I would! Heck, I'd keep all of them. That's why I don't breed.

I'm planning on breeding my birds. It's actually not something I really want to do, even though I was raised knowing everything I possibly can about birds, and breeding them(my Opa was a bird breeder). I'm breeding them to save my female. She's actually the reason I got my male, who I also fell in love with.

See she keeps laying eggs, 6 or more a month. Eventually all this egg laying will kill her. If she has a batch, she'll likely only have one a year. Much better than laying a batch of duds every month. Also, there aren't many cockatiels available where I am, so there is a demand for them. Still, when I made this decision, my husband started to look for cheap cages, because the first words out of his mouth were "Great, so we went from one bird, to two, and now possibly dozens?" He knows me too well.

I actually was looking into buying a cockatiel for my daughter, but here they cost $175-200 depending on color. And all the ones we have seen in pet stores almost look sick. So that was a no go. My aunt has a bunch of the large birds. Amazons, African Grey, Parrot... All biters! They mean business too! But they are very good talkers. She also has a pair of love birds that have eggs all the time but they never hatch. Her house is too loud for me. Lol

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I actually was looking into buying a cockatiel for my daughter, but here they cost 5-200 depending on color. And all the ones we have seen in pet stores almost look sick. So that was a no go. My aunt has a bunch of the large birds. Amazons, African Grey, Parrot... All biters! They mean business too! But they are very good talkers. She also has a pair of love birds that have eggs all the time but they never hatch. Her house is too loud for me. Lol

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Cockatiels are loud. One of the things I love about Marty (my female) is that she's not a squawker. Bo (the male) only squawks when the microwave beeps. Other than that, he's a singer. But he's not at all tame. He's terrified of humans.

Both were rescues of a sort. Marty was hand raised, is very very very tame. She's a love. A guy my husband works with paid a small fortune for her, for his son, only to find out that his son is allergic. So he asked if we'd take her. Of course I said yes. Bo (the male) was a breeding male, then his mate died. He went into deep depression. So the guy that owned him gave him to a lady from his church who had two cockatiels. She didn't separate them, just threw Bo into the cage with a bonded pair. Bad idea! They almost killed him.

At this time I was looking for a male for Marty, because of the constant egg laying. Our pet stores don't even carry cockatiels, so I went to the humane society, told them what I was looking for and why. They rarely get cockatiels, but when they do, they don't let anyone that's thinking of breeding, adopt. So that was a dead end. I posted an ad on Kijiji that I was looking for a male cockatiel. Within a day I got a response, went to meet Bo, fell in love, and brought him home.

That was many many many, in winter, months ago. I have yet to put them in the same cage. I'm afraid. They whistle to each other, they kiss each other through the bars on their cages (they're side by side), the sleep as close as they can get to each other. But I'm afraid that as soon as I put them in the same cage, it will all go bad. I want them to have a companion. I also want to save Marty. In the same token, it's really a bit scary to think about raising baby cockatiels. If one of them dies, I'd be heartbroken. This is why I don't breed. But in this case, I don't have much of a choice, and I know I'll be able to find them good homes.

Marty is all yellow, a very rare color. Bo is a normal grey. From what I've researched, all the females they have should be Marty's coloring. I plan to hand raise after 4 months (before that is too stressful on the babies).

I'd be totally willing to give you one, no cost at all. The only problem for me would be getting the birdy baby to you. I'm in Canada. I would never ship a bird. If you could make it to my place, you have the pick of the crop, you can even take two. That is if I ever get them together. :)

I'll look into getting a passport ;)
I'm def going to keep a pup from Raven, not sure yet if it'll be a male or a female. I've been reading mixed things. And also I have to see what would be best for my 10 years old female pit. She's usually not into liking female dogs but deals with Raven. However they do have their "lovers fights" as I call them. We aren't sure how much longer our pit will be around. She has had arthritis for 3 yrs now watching her in the colder months makes me cry for her. Poor girl, she's been the best dog we have ever had. Drives me nuts when people talk bad about the pit breed. It's not all of them just a select few. Since I have been volunteering at our local Humane Society and the Dog Shelter the "vicious"

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I'll look into getting a passport ;)
I'm def going to keep a pup from Raven, not sure yet if it'll be a male or a female. I've been reading mixed things. And also I have to see what would be best for my 10 years old female pit. She's usually not into liking female dogs but deals with Raven. However they do have their "lovers fights" as I call them. We aren't sure how much longer our pit will be around. She has had arthritis for 3 yrs now watching her in the colder months makes me cry for her. Poor girl, she's been the best dog we have ever had. Drives me nuts when people talk bad about the pit breed. It's not all of them just a select few. Since I have been volunteering at our local Humane Society and the Dog Shelter the "vicious"

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I love all breeds. I can say that I would likely never get a pit, not because of the hype, it's just not a breed I'd want. Mainly because we have a small house, and a small backyard, and they're really big dogs. I'd never get a dane either, for the same reason. Love the breeds, just don't fit with my lifestyle right now.

Our neighbor has a pit. We recently had a neighborhood party, we live in a cul-de-sac. She brought her pit out. He's gorgeous. He's all grey, and his head, wow, it's huge! He's massive! He's such a lovey.

I'm more a medium breed type person, mainly because I feel guilty having a large breed in our tiny space. :(

Great Danes are actually well suited for small spaces. As long as they are properly exercised they are mostly couch potatoes. The only downfall (minus the size of their poo) is that when they do bark it's so deep that you can feel it in your chest. Lol Ravens a little over 2 and she still makes me jump every time she barks.

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Great Danes are actually well suited for small spaces. As long as they are properly exercised they are mostly couch potatoes. The only downfall (minus the size of their poo) is that when they do bark it's so deep that you can feel it in your chest. Lol Ravens a little over 2 and she still makes me jump every time she barks.

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Ah, the bark. You haven't heard an annoying bark until you've had a beagle.

Trust me on this.

The beagle bark, it makes people insane.

This isn't my beagle, and this beagle isn't near as barky or howly as mine, but this will give you a very little idea on how they are.

2 beagles howling at a bumble bee - YouTube

All day, every day! Just saying. ;)

Oh my! Raven went crazy because of that! LOL it was too funny! She jumped up out of a sound sleep, ran to me and tried to sniff my iPad, then when she wasn't getting anything from that she took her large head and knocked it right out of my hand then stood on it! Hahaha She better like puppy cries :(

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Oh my! Raven went crazy because of that! LOL it was too funny! She jumped up out of a sound sleep, ran to me and tried to sniff my iPad, then when she wasn't getting anything from that she took her large head and knocked it right out of my hand then stood on it! Hahaha She better like puppy cries :(

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LOL! Puppies won't bother her at all. Beagles are unique in their barking. They can actually make 3 different vocal sounds, the only breed that can. All three make you want to pull your hair out. ;)

They have a unique vocal chamber. The beagle bay is the most popular. Your neighbors will love it. I know mine do (sarcasm).

Iol My neighbors have a herd of coon hounds down the lane at the old farm house. They use them to track down the coyotes.
Btw! I THINK that I just MIGHT have felt a puppy! I was rubbing her belly in a circular motion and stopped my hand on one of her "bumps" and felt a little "flutter"!

So Raven has been moaning a lot the past couple of days, getting up, laying down.. I laugh and my husband is the one that sticks up for her "don't laugh you gained 86 lbs with your last baby and were like a stuck turtle if you laid on your back" lol I still find it funny. She has slept most of the day away today but is eating and drinking as much as an elephant. Btw... There's 6 puppies!

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So Raven has been moaning a lot the past couple of days, getting up, laying down.. I laugh and my husband is the one that sticks up for her "don't laugh you gained 86 lbs with your last baby and were like a stuck turtle if you laid on your back" lol I still find it funny. She has slept most of the day away today but is eating and drinking as much as an elephant. Btw... There's 6 puppies!

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OMG! That's such great news! Six puppies! That's wonderful. I can't wait to see them.

The next time your husband jokes about when you were pregnant, remind him that your pregnancy was 9 months. Ravens is a lot shorter. :)

I told him that me getting pregnant wasn't my fault, I was sleeping.

15 more VERY long days to wait to see my grand-fur babies! I'm completely excited! I'll prob have to take a Benadryl just to go to sleep. Now it's crunch time for me to learn even more than I already do to help this go smoothly. I have a ton a questions that I'm getting conflicting answers for though so it discouraging me. :(

Ask them here. There are a ton of dog experts on this site, and Shazzy is one of them. Her mother has been a breeder for decades. Bella is another expert in that area. If they don't have the answers they'll tell you, or they'll find the answer for you. I can be of help in that area as well.

Since this is her first ( and only) litter should I let her do it alone and sit in the distance and watch? Or stay close and give her love?
Should I cut the cords? Or let her?
Should I let her eat all the placentas? Or just a couple?
Should I put her whelping box in our mud room in the basement so no one will bother her? Her keep her upstairs in a spare bedroom?
Should I not let my other two dogs around her after the pups are born? Like no short socializing time without the pups?

I'm getting mixed things. The joint breeder helps get the pups out, cleans them cuts the cords then gives the pups to mom. My mother in law lets her dogs do everything on their own, she claims it makes them better mothers. And different sites I have read say that they mother eating the placentas will just give the mothers sticky, runny black poop. The other say its helps contractions and milk production.

Also the vet said its nothing to worry about, but Raven has been getting kind of jumpy when you touch her back end if she's not looking at you and even a few times when she is. It's kind of like she's startled and has a muscle twitch at the same time. A few of the pups are in her ribs and that why they prob didn't show up on the second US. However as of right now they look good in the X-ray.

I suggest you let her do most of it herself; you watch from the sidelines. Would not worry about the placenta. Having her in the spare bedroom is a good idea, would not let the other dogs near the whelping box after birth; she will not appreciate this and only worry. She will know you love her, even from a distance.

What I meant about letting her socialize with the other dogs is... When I go to let her outside or just give her some time away from the pups should I kennel my other dogs up first before getting Raven out? I won't be letting the pups around the other dogs till they are at least 6 weeks old. My pit has very strong mothers instints and would prob try to steal a pup for herself. She's been spayed before she even had her first heat but she has helped me foster puppies and kittens from the Humane Society. And my lab isn't the brightest bulb and would prob hurt a pup by accident.
I do have knowledge of what I should do and shouldn't do, I guess I'm looking for reassurance.

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What I meant about letting her socialize with the other dogs is... When I go to let her outside or just give her some time away from the pups should I kennel my other dogs up first before getting Raven out? I won't be letting the pups around the other dogs till they are at least 6 weeks old. My pit has very strong mothers instints and would prob try to steal a pup for herself. She's been spayed before she even had her first heat but she has helped me foster puppies and kittens from the Humane Society. And my lab isn't the brightest bulb and would prob hurt a pup by accident.
I do have knowledge of what I should do and shouldn't do, I guess I'm looking for reassurance.

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Yes, you sound pretty savvy, I would say kennel the other dogs when you let mom out, but I guess you know she will be holding her pee for a long time, not wanting to leave the babies!

I'm with Tickle. I'd let her do most of it herself, but be on the sidelines ready to step in in case something goes wrong, or in case she doesn't know what to do. You could also contact your vet and ask if she'd be willing to do a house call when Raven goes into labor. Many vets will do this for their patients, much easier than bringing a great dane in while she's laboring. Or talk to another breeder who's been through this, and ask if they'd be willing to come help while Raven is birthing.

She's going to be protective of her pups, and she won't want to leave them too often. So I'd say it's best to let her potty alone. The other dogs may be too curious, knowing something is going on, or just wanting to play. She'll want to go out, do her thing, and come back in to her pups.

I think all of the main questions you had, things you were getting mixed reviews on, are all things that are the breeders choice. Go with your gut, you have great instincts, you've done all the research, you have everything ready. Don't doubt yourself. But, also don't feel you can't reach out for help when you need it. :)

How the heck did we get from Pregnancy to what vets cost? Give it a break or start a new thread.

I'm so excited. My husband wants a whole litter of males. But I want a mixture. And we are hoping for some great colors. I also can't wait to see what they weight! That's also another mixed thing that I have read. Some said 1-1 1/2 and others say 2 lbs. I bought some KY for her today just in case one is a little big I can help her out a little. I'll have all kinds of pics of the babies. I'm going to enjoy this since it'll be my only time doing it. They will be spoiled brats when they go to their forever homes :) Also just to add, I will be having them all micro chipped so that if they are lost or taken to the pound I'll be able to rescue them.

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I did start a new thread, you should have seen the link to that. But I'm guessing you stopped reading after that and didn't realize that the discussion is back on track, and has been for quite a while now. This is why it's important to read the whole thread. :)

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I'm so excited. My husband wants a whole litter of males. But I want a mixture. And we are hoping for some great colors. I also can't wait to see what they weight! That's also another mixed thing that I have read. Some said 1-1 1/2 and others say 2 lbs. I bought some KY for her today just in case one is a little big I can help her out a little. I'll have all kinds of pics of the babies. I'm going to enjoy this since it'll be my only time doing it. They will be spoiled brats when they go to their forever homes :) Also just to add, I will be having them all micro chipped so that if they are lost or taken to the pound I'll be able to rescue them.

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You might want to talk to the vet about microchipping. I don't remember who posted it, but I do know one of the dog experts posted that she couldn't get her dog microchipped until he was at least 6 months old. I do know we had Jasper, our rescue (RIP) microchipped when we got him, and he was 4 months of age. But I do think they have to be a certain age (what that age is, I don't know, I'd have to research) before they can be chipped. I can research that for you if you'd like. One less thing for you to do. :)

I'm so excited for you. I wish I could be there, since I never have, and never will breed my dogs. I just know I'm not cut out for it. Heck, I'm having trouble with my birds.

I can't wait to see the pictures. Hubby could video tape, or would that be a bit much?

I'll prob video a couple of them coming out. But my fear is I'll have to tape a puke bag to my face while she's eating the yucky stuff. Lol we got Raven at 11 weeks and she already had a micro chip. And I know at the Humane Society we micro all the pups as early as 8 weeks before they go to new homes. (Btw that is a horrible thing to do to a poor puppy, the first time I did I cried)

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I'll prob video a couple of them coming out. But my fear is I'll have to tape a puke bag to my face while she's eating the yucky stuff. Lol we got Raven at 11 weeks and she already had a micro chip. And I know at the Humane Society we micro all the pups as early as 8 weeks before they go to new homes. (Btw that is a horrible thing to do to a poor puppy, the first time I did I cried)

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The first time I did I wasn't in the room, thankfully, otherwise I probably would have said no. Then I worked for a microchip company for a few months, and actually had to see it being done. It is horrible. I have to turn away when my dogs get their yearly vaccines. I'll hold them, but I can't watch the needle going in.

I'm with you on the puking thing. I don't know if I could watch a dog delivering. I saw a horse deliver a calf once, I passed out. Of course I was 4 at the time, but every time since then, if I even see a video of a horse giving birth, I get light headed, and feel like I'm going to pass out.

I have two children, my youngest is my daughter. My cousin was in the room and videotaped the birth. That I have no problem watching. In fact, I love to watch it, it's my daughter being born. I wish I had a video of my son being born too, but we didn't have a video camera then.

But horses, no, and cats. Saw that once too, and it ended badly.

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I would too. Horses deliver foals. ;)

I wasn't able to see either of my children born due to having c-sections. But my son used to get nose bleeds if you looked at him funny and I would gag every time. I don't do puke or blood. That's why I'm not a nurses aid :) I watched maybe 10 videos of Great Danes whelping and all I can say is WOW! It's nothing like a Maltese or a cat!

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Oops. I'm blaming that typo on the cold meds. :)

Yes, it was a foal. A very bloody, looked like the horses guts were falling out of her body, foal. We had just come to Canada, my parents were working as janitors at an office building because that's the only work they could find until my dad upgraded his education. The office was right beside a horse ranch. It was boring, so I went outside, and saw the horse give birth. My parents found me passed out by the fence. The second time was at a trailer show, I was a teen then. There was a booth about horses, dude ranches, and they showed a video of a horse giving birth. I remember feeling light headed, and suddenly I'm sitting down, with my head between my knees being told to breathe.

The cat was a neighbors, I was 7. We were watching the cat for her while she went away. She didn't know the cat was pregnant. My friend and I were playing with the cat, and suddenly I noticed something coming out of her bum (I was 7!) I ran in to tell my parents I thought she was dying.

She had 8 kittens. I got one of them, a little grey and white cat I named Whiskers which I got for a pair of used boots and skates (they had a daughter a few years younger than me). I have tons of pictures, and video (I'd have to find a way to get it on the computer since it was the old style video, no sound, on a spool) of whiskers, and his brother that was given to another neighbor.

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I wasn't able to see either of my children born due to having c-sections. But my son used to get nose bleeds if you looked at him funny and I would gag every time. I don't do puke or blood. That's why I'm not a nurses aid :) I watched maybe 10 videos of Great Danes whelping and all I can say is WOW! It's nothing like a Maltese or a cat!

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Blood I can handle. Puke, only if it's my kids, anyone else, and they better move over because I'm joining them. Just hearing someone puke makes me puke. Heck, just talking about it is making me want to puke. ;)

Here's the funny thing. I can't watch a needle go in, not in my kids, or my pets, or even myself, but I can give a shot no problem. If I'm the one holding the needle, it's all good. I had to give my dad vitamin K shots for a week, and it didn't bother me at all. But watching someone get a shot, can't do it.

My daughter gets nose bleeds too. Severe ones. Looks like a murder scene afterwards. She's 11 and still gets them. :(

My son had his nose cauterized and now he rarely gets them and if he does it hardly anything at all. Another thing that helps is having them sip cold milk threw a straw. The blood clots faster.
I'm the same as you with all the other stuff. I can do micros on animals, give them vaccinations, gave my grandmother vitamin K shots... But someone pulls a needle out on me they better be able to run faster than I can.
And my puking "fear" that's exactly why I don't drink or hang out with drunk people. Lol
I now an repeating in my head, " you will make it through this, you will make it through this" I have to put on a poker face for Raven. My daughter gets pneumonia very easily and Raven is always the one that has told us that her breathing was off by constantly putting her nose to Anna's nose. She also won't leave Anna sleep more than 10 minutes without checking on her and freaks is the door is closed and she can't get to her. So I can't let her know that I'm not enjoying it or feeling well.
When I had knee surgery Raven was just 3 months old and wouldn't leave my side. She would sit next to my bed with her head on my lap and just stare at me. Come to find out that the doctor left a bone fragment in there and my knee was filling with fluids. She's very in tune to our body's and someone always knows when something's wrong with one of us.
That's why she's our baby. She always will be. I just hope that her own puppies won't change how she reacts to us.

OMG! I'm beginning to think we were separated at birth, or at least our dogs were.

My lab (RIP) Indy, was 3 when we had our son Jared. Jared's room was around 8 feet from ours. Indy would sleep under the crib. Whenever Jared so much as made a peep, Indy would come running to our room to wake me. Who needs a baby monitor when you have a lab like Indy?

Jared learned to walk pulling up on Indy. Most times he got more fur than anything. Indy never so much as growled. I did see him flinch once, and stopped Jared at that time, but Indy would go to Jared, knowing what Jared would do. It's like he wanted to help. He wanted to teach the hairless dog to walk. :)

The neighbor kids used to come by all the time to play with Indy. Two of our neighbors got dogs just because of Indy. They wanted one just like him. He was a once in a lifetime dog.

When I was pregnant, and not feeling so well, he would lie down with me in bed. I actually have a picture of Indy and me. I'm completed knocked out, he's awake, but won't move because I'm using him as a pillow. My husband came home to that picture and took it. He wondered why Indy hadn't greeted him at the door.

After my dad died, and my mom, who also had cancer and was dying as well, moved in with us, Indy treated her with special care. He normally jumped on everyone to stay hi. With her he would gently climb up on her bed, or put his head on her lap. My mom often commented on it. He knew. Same with the kids, only healthy adults got the Indy hug.

Raven sounds like a natural mother. Having a litter won't change her, I'd bet on it. She'll mother her own, and likely accept you mothering them too. From what you've written, I don't think you'll have any problems with her personality, she's one in a million, like Indy.

Raven has officially turned into a beached whale...

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Raven has officially turned into a beached whale...

Welcome to Flickr!

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:( I must be doing something wrong. I don't get a picture, I just get a black screen. :(

I'll try again

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Originally Posted by Raven Rayne

Raven has officially turned into a beached whale...

Welcome to Flickr!

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I don't know why Alty saw a blank screen. The picture came up for me (yesterday and today.)

She is a beautiful animal. Though I wouldn't say beached whale. Smokey Mountains, maybe. :)