YOU ARE DOING GREAT! What a trooper you are. :)
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YOU ARE DOING GREAT! What a trooper you are. :)
OK 3 and 4 came!!
She took a nice hour break between pup 2 and 3 but then puppies 3 and 4 came really close together.
Both pups 3 and 4 were girls
So so far the total is 4 puppies
3 girls and 1 boy
Everyone is doing great and Ava is a GREAT mommy!
Do you think that is it for the puppies? Think there might be one or two more? She looked awfully large. I guess you just have to keep an eye on her and see how she is managing. If she starts really moving around and appears to be perky and out of distress (no more panting or vomiting) then that would be a very good sign. I hope it is just the four of them.
I really hope its just the 4... but to be honest it really look like there is more in there. On the side of her belly that is facing up there is a definitely "ball" or bump still... I have a gut feeling there is going to be 2 more!!
But my husband is home from class now... so I can take a breather lol
Holy crap!! Didn't even finish typing this before my husband delivered another one!!
So now we are up to 5!!
Ok so puppy number 6 is here!! And it's a little girl, so that brings the total to 5 girls and 1 boy.
A few things have me concerned though...
With the 6th puppy the placenta didn't come out, Ava and I tried to pull it out but Ava ripped the cord before we could get it out. It still hasn't passed.
And once she cleaned up puppy number 6 we went to put the rest of the puppies back with her (as we have done every time she delivers a new pup) but now she started growling at the other puppies so we took them back out. We tried again, and she growled again. So we took them out.
I wonder is something wrong with puppy number 6 and Ava is trying to protect her??
Are you sure she is done delivering? It might be that she is having another one or she is just really uncomfortable at the moment. I am not sure about the placenta. I know that it can cause problem if it doesn't come out. I was about to sign off for the night but I will see what I can turn up and get back to you.
Okay, don't worry too much about the placenta not coming out immediately. It might slip out during the night or tomorrow. I am sorry I can't stay online. If your vet is aware of the situation and you encounter problems during the night, do not hesitate to call him. That is what they are there for.
Well I am having trouble getting puppy number 6 to nurse... she won't latch on :(
Can you stimulate her mouth with your finger? Is she sucking at all? Try to rub around her the outside of her mouth gently with your pinky and slowly see if she will take it in her mouth.
By the way, labman should be back later this evening. If you are having trouble he might be able to help. I hate leaving you like this but I have dogs that need to be walked and phone calls to return. :(
You might want to do an internet search on "Whelping puppies, problems" and see what turns up. You are smart enough to assess good info from bad.
Oh Ruby your fine :) Thanks for all your help... I just keep updating to allow anyone to help lol and I figure labman would be on soon.
Up to number 7!! This one is a boy... so 5 girls and 2 boys.
On puppy 6 and 7 the placenta didn't come out :(
Number 6 isn't nursing yet... I will try simulating her with my finger.
And now we have 8
5 girls and 3 boys... holy crap... how did the vet only see 2?!
Labman (since you're on lol)...
Ava has starting growling and trying to bite the puppies... my husband is sitting in there with her now and is holding her collar so she can't, and let the puppies nurse.
Is this normal? Will she stop?
I am afraid to leave her alone with all the puppies in there :(
*and I think there is still one puppy left in her... she delivered the 8th one at 9pm, it is now 10pm
9 puppies... 5 girls, 4 boys... oh my...
I simply do not know what to do about the growling. Do you have any of the books?
Yeah I have the books and have skimmed through them but don't see anything about it... she has seemed to stop.
We were removing the puppies when she would birth another one, then after she cleaned the new one we would put back the other pups so they all could nurse.
This worked fine until puppy number 6, then when we tried to give the puppies back she started growling and snapping.
So I tried a few times then tried something different that I think I remember reading about. I re-introduced each puppy by offering their rear end to her... she would lick and lick, then stop... then I could lay the puppy down and she was fine :)
So that seemed to help.
Her water broke again and I thought we were going to have a 10th puppy... but nothing so far.
She is in her room with all of the puppies and is doing great :)
Never imagined 9 puppies!!
I will load some pictures tomorrow :)
OMG! I'm so sorry that I was not online yesterday to read this post!! I feel horrible! I would have offered you some advice!!!!
I really hope Ava stopped biting the pups! =/ I hope that all of the pups are ok & healthy!!!
Is the grand total 9 pups??
Post pics! I want to see!
Ok so this morning the grand total is 9 puppies :D
5 girls and 4 boys and everyone seems to be doing great!!
Ava is still a little touchy sometimes with the puppies, but it has gotten a lot better, so hopefully it will stop soon.
Ava has the runs :( but other than that she seems to be doing great, she gets out of the box on her own when she wants to go outside.
I am going to call the vet and see if they want me to bring her in to make sure all the puppies are out and everything is okay.
Getting ready to take my little one to school, hopefully they will do OK while I'm gone (about 20 mins).
I will post some pics when I get back :)
Macksmom, congratulations. Looking forward to to seeing the pictures.
My female had 5 puppies in June.. be ready for a lot of mess.. and talk to your vet for signs of breching.. when her water breaks she will be digging a lot.. looking for a warm dark spot . Needs to be away from destractions.. and others. Needs water by her side.. and if its her first litter you might need to be there when she gives birth.. Ur vet should tell all the info you need to do medical wise.. when u see a brownish discharge her mucuise plug is braking.. so puppies will be due 72 to 24 hours.. when her water breaks.. get ready for a long wait cause it takes 30mins to an hour each pup.. and if u see a dark green discharge go to the vet right way.. there could be problems...
Congrats on the puppies. I can't wait to see the pictures. Great job Mack!
Congrats MM! You did great. It might not be a bad idea for the vet to check everything and make sure Ava is fine. Does your vet make "house calls"? There are quite a few that are willing to swing by your home and do a cursory check to make sure Momma & the pups are out of danger. They recognize that it is better to keep the pups out of the vets office at this age. I know that mine does do that.
Thanks for the advice lol but if you read the entirety of the post... Ava had her puppies last night :) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by keamarie
Ok so I have a vet appt at 11:30 just to make sure everything is okay with Ava because I could have sworn she was going to have a 10th puppy.
Here are some pics...
Puppy number one
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0128.jpg
Puppy number two
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0138.jpg
After 2 Ava was pooped lol
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0144.jpg
Puppy 3
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0151.jpg
And 4
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0152.jpg
And then there were 5
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0156.jpg
Oh good lord they are adorable. That cream one with white face what a cutie. I wish you lived closer to me I would take one!
Puppy 6
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0157.jpg
And 7
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0158.jpg
And 8
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0160.jpg
And finally puppy number 9
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0170.jpg
Ava is exhausted
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0174.jpg
This morning... a proud mama
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0183.jpg
Good lord! How are you going to let them go?! They are each so adorable!
Ava is such a good mommy :D
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0165.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...m/IMG_0175.jpg
I wonder what the father was. There are so many light colored ones!
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Oh good lord they are adorable. That cream one with white face what a cutie. I wish you lived closer to me I would take one!
Thanks :D:D I think they are just precious!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuscany
Where you at... I'm up for a road trip in about 8 weeks! Hahaha
I wish I could keep them all! LOL
Yeah, definitely think the father was cream colored haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuscany
They are just beautiful MM! Ava looks like a pitbull/black lab cross, At this age, it is very hard to tell what the pups are crossed with. On top of that, there are so many recessive genes in both labs and pits, so even as they grow into adulthood, you might never know what they are. If she mated with another cross breed, it's one of those "good luck figuring it out" situations! LOL!
I cannot believe 9 puppies! What a shock!
Thanks Ruby :D Yeah, that's what we figured Ava was... because I was informed (through here I think) that black labs can have the spotted tongue, which she has.
Just got back from the vet... Ava got a shot to contract her uterus to expel anything else, and she and the puppies got a clean bill of health :D
Did find out something I didn't know... these puppies could have more than 1 father. She said since there are 9 puppies they could have as many as 9 different fathers!!
Wow... something I didn't know!
So everyone checked out, and we are getting ready to schedule to get their dew claws removed here shortly :)
Everyone at the vet office was in shock when we brought in 9 puppies! They said they all looked at the x-ray to see if there were more puppies, but at the time everyone only saw 2... no one thought she would have 9 lol
Very good MM. So glad that things worked out. For all you have been through since adopting Ava I am glad that it all went smoothly.
Maybe you or Ruby can answer a question for me... actually you made me wonder about it.
Is it common to have dew claws removed? Why do they do it? I only ask because Tuscany still has his and the vet never mentioned removing them.
I actually have no clue lol I just read it in all the puppy books... they say to have the dew claws removed between 3-5 days old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuscany
I really don't know why they have to be removed lol
Ok if your Dog is going to have puppies it's simple, make sure that she or he is in a enclosed space like a box and make sure it's warm cause the puppies might die, if ity's to cold. And maybe go pick up a book about that. Also MAKE SURE NONE OF THE PUPIES COME OUT BREACH!! or you will have serious problems!Quote:
Originally Posted by macksmom
Make sure you read the entire thread before you post your answer. Mack has already had the puppies and has posted pictures to share with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by änchored
I just googled that since I didn't know why either. Apparently, the dew claws may help an emerging puppy get out of the sac during birth. Then the dew claws become unnecessary and can scratch littermates, hurt the mom while nursing, and catch on clothing and other fabrics throughout the dog's life. Clipping is supposed to be painless and bloodless. The rest of the newborn puppy's nails should be clipped too.Quote:
Originally Posted by macksmom
I think my four cats and I would absolutely LOVE to adopt one of those adorable puppies!!
Well anyone interested let me know lol... didn't ever think we would end up with 9!!
Going to need to take out a small loan just for vet visits hahahaha :P
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